From oles at uar.net  Mon Sep 10 23:09:10 2018
From: oles at uar.net (Oles Girniak)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 23:09:10 +0300
Subject: [uanog] SPAM from .co.ua
In-Reply-To: <0c2ef956-a2ef-95e2-d84f-405b9886243f@abbon.net>
References: <00fc01d3e857$18d88c40$4a89a4c0$@gmail.com>
 <d6aed625-9186-c829-fdaa-32095f38bc87@abbon.net>
 <ba3c3827-cfd5-0b93-299f-7245ad225b28@netassist.kiev.ua>
 <0c2ef956-a2ef-95e2-d84f-405b9886243f@abbon.net>
Message-ID: <be13a800-7b51-2ce3-a65d-cf9c84fad7fa@uar.net>

???? ??????,

???? ?????, ????? ???? (???? ???????) ???????? ?????? ? ???? *.co.ua ?

? ???? ? ?????? 2018 ???? ~500 ????-???????????? ? ??????? ? ??? ???? :(

?????.




From sm at netartgroup.com  Tue Sep 11 08:23:29 2018
From: sm at netartgroup.com (Sergey Myasoedov)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 16:23:29 +1100
Subject: [uanog] SPAM from .co.ua
In-Reply-To: <be13a800-7b51-2ce3-a65d-cf9c84fad7fa@uar.net>
References: <00fc01d3e857$18d88c40$4a89a4c0$@gmail.com>
 <d6aed625-9186-c829-fdaa-32095f38bc87@abbon.net>
 <ba3c3827-cfd5-0b93-299f-7245ad225b28@netassist.kiev.ua>
 <0c2ef956-a2ef-95e2-d84f-405b9886243f@abbon.net>
 <be13a800-7b51-2ce3-a65d-cf9c84fad7fa@uar.net>
Message-ID: <DC54B5CE-EA41-465B-829D-9927F780225A@netartgroup.com>


??????? ?? ????, ???????????? ? ????.


--
Sergey

> On 11 Sep 2018, at 07:09, Oles Girniak <oles at uar.net> wrote:
> 
> ???? ??????,
> 
> ???? ?????, ????? ???? (???? ???????) ???????? ?????? ? ???? *.co.ua ?
> 
> ? ???? ? ?????? 2018 ???? ~500 ????-???????????? ? ??????? ? ??? ???? :(
> 
> ?????.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog


From doka.ua at gmail.com  Tue Sep 11 11:22:44 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 11:22:44 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LLQuNGC0LDRjyDQv9Cw0YDQsCBDYXQ1?=
Message-ID: <8c440555-2c8f-b1c9-c1bb-c0f838011343@gmail.com>

??????,

? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ????? ???? - ????? ???????? ?? ????????? 
? ????????? ?? ?????????? ???????

???????.

-- 
Volodymyr Litovka
   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison


From doka.ua at gmail.com  Tue Sep 11 11:49:25 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 11:49:25 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LLQuNGC0LDRjyDQv9Cw0YDQsCBDYXQ1?=
In-Reply-To: <8c440555-2c8f-b1c9-c1bb-c0f838011343@gmail.com>
References: <8c440555-2c8f-b1c9-c1bb-c0f838011343@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f703b5b3-25ff-8fe6-b6bc-971cd2c48eaa@gmail.com>

?, ? ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ??? :)

On 9/11/18 11:22 AM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
> ??????,
>
> ? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ????? ???? - ????? ???????? ?? 
> ????????? ? ????????? ?? ?????????? ???????
>
> ???????.
>

-- 
Volodymyr Litovka
   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison


From basil at vpm.net.ua  Tue Sep 11 11:57:53 2018
From: basil at vpm.net.ua (Vasiliy P. Melnik)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 11:57:53 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LLQuNGC0LDRjyDQv9Cw0YDQsCBDYXQ1?=
In-Reply-To: <f703b5b3-25ff-8fe6-b6bc-971cd2c48eaa@gmail.com>
References: <8c440555-2c8f-b1c9-c1bb-c0f838011343@gmail.com>
 <f703b5b3-25ff-8fe6-b6bc-971cd2c48eaa@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMPJU7CARkoMUu3fgnSwFc_Azr2guRuOoTqGKUm-GOebOrFToA@mail.gmail.com>

????? ?????? ? ????????? :) ?????? ??? ????? ??????.

??, 11 ????. 2018 ?. ? 11:49, Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com>:

> ?, ? ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ??? :)
>
> On 9/11/18 11:22 AM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
> > ??????,
> >
> > ? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ????? ???? - ????? ???????? ??
> > ????????? ? ????????? ?? ?????????? ???????
> >
> > ???????.
> >
>
> --
> Volodymyr Litovka
>    "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Tue Sep 11 12:02:44 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:02:44 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LLQuNGC0LDRjyDQv9Cw0YDQsCBDYXQ1?=
In-Reply-To: <CAMPJU7CARkoMUu3fgnSwFc_Azr2guRuOoTqGKUm-GOebOrFToA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8c440555-2c8f-b1c9-c1bb-c0f838011343@gmail.com>
 <f703b5b3-25ff-8fe6-b6bc-971cd2c48eaa@gmail.com>
 <CAMPJU7CARkoMUu3fgnSwFc_Azr2guRuOoTqGKUm-GOebOrFToA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d8ec7466-aa51-0c72-39fe-b7cf6081784d@gmail.com>

?? ??? ???-?? ?????? ??????? :)

On 9/11/18 11:57 AM, Vasiliy P. Melnik wrote:
> ????? ?????? ? ????????? :) ?????? ??? ????? ??????.
>
> ??, 11 ????. 2018 ?. ? 11:49, Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com 
> <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com>>:
>
>     ?, ? ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ??? :)
>
>     On 9/11/18 11:22 AM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
>     > ??????,
>     >
>     > ? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ????? ???? - ????? ???????? ??
>     > ????????? ? ????????? ?? ?????????? ???????
>     >
>     > ???????.
>     >
>
>     -- 
>     Volodymyr Litovka
>     ? ?"Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     uanog mailing list
>     uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>     https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
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-- 
Volodymyr Litovka
   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison

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From abb at abbon.net  Tue Sep 11 12:04:16 2018
From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:04:16 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LLQuNGC0LDRjyDQv9Cw0YDQsCBDYXQ1?=
In-Reply-To: <8c440555-2c8f-b1c9-c1bb-c0f838011343@gmail.com>
References: <8c440555-2c8f-b1c9-c1bb-c0f838011343@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e960e147-57c7-1202-8273-16da49e884e1@abbon.net>

??????,

???? ???????, ?? ???, ??????????, ????????? ??? ? ???? ????????, ???? 
???????, ?????????? ???? ???? ??? ???????.

https://local.com.ua/forum/topic/65350-??????-?????-??????-utp/

11.09.2018 11:22, Volodymyr Litovka ?????:
> ??????,
> 
> ? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ????? ???? - ????? ???????? ?? ????????? 
> ? ????????? ?? ?????????? ???????
> 
> ???????.
> 

-- 
    Best regards,
    Alexandr B. Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net

From tasic at academ.kiev.ua  Tue Sep 11 12:51:56 2018
From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:51:56 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?LtCj0JrQoA==?=
Message-ID: <9F1CC009-8283-4C9F-93F2-1F626811941C@academ.kiev.ua>

     Hi!
?????-?? ???????? ? subj?

koala:~ tasic$ dig xn--j1amh ns

; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> xn--j1amh ns
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 30659
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 9

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;xn--j1amh.			IN	NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
xn--j1amh.		3600	IN	NS	dns2.u-registry.net.
xn--j1amh.		3600	IN	NS	dns1.u-registry.com.
xn--j1amh.		3600	IN	NS	nsi.uanic.net.
xn--j1amh.		3600	IN	NS	tier1.num.net.ua.
xn--j1amh.		3600	IN	NS	dns3.dotukr.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns1.u-registry.com.	91691	IN	A	173.208.218.43
dns1.u-registry.com.	91691	IN	AAAA	2604:4300:a:8c:5054:ff:fe47:8582
dns2.u-registry.net.	91691	IN	A	195.123.1.7
dns2.u-registry.net.	91691	IN	AAAA	2a02:128:2::5
dns3.dotukr.com.	91691	IN	A	37.187.75.31
dns3.dotukr.com.	91691	IN	AAAA	2001:41d0:a:2b1f::1
tier1.num.net.ua.	91691	IN	A	193.110.163.134
nsi.uanic.net.		4890	IN	A	212.1.66.247

;; Query time: 926 msec
;; SERVER: 10.10.1.1#53(10.10.1.1)
;; WHEN: Tue Sep 11 12:49:03 EEST 2018
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 348



koala:~ tasic$ dig xn--j1amh ns @nsi.uanic.net.

; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> xn--j1amh ns @nsi.uanic.net.
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 37642
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;xn--j1amh.			IN	NS

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 212.1.66.247#53(212.1.66.247)
;; WHEN: Tue Sep 11 12:48:52 EEST 2018
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 38

?? ???? ?? ??????????, ??? ?? ????????????...

--
Taras Heichenko
tasic at academ.kiev.ua






From netch at netch.kiev.ua  Tue Sep 11 16:11:25 2018
From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 16:11:25 +0300
Subject: [uanog] SPAM from .co.ua
In-Reply-To: <DC54B5CE-EA41-465B-829D-9927F780225A@netartgroup.com>
References: <00fc01d3e857$18d88c40$4a89a4c0$@gmail.com>
 <d6aed625-9186-c829-fdaa-32095f38bc87@abbon.net>
 <ba3c3827-cfd5-0b93-299f-7245ad225b28@netassist.kiev.ua>
 <0c2ef956-a2ef-95e2-d84f-405b9886243f@abbon.net>
 <be13a800-7b51-2ce3-a65d-cf9c84fad7fa@uar.net>
 <DC54B5CE-EA41-465B-829D-9927F780225A@netartgroup.com>
Message-ID: <20180911131125.GZ6156@netch.kiev.ua>

hi,

 Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 16:23:29, sm wrote about "Re: [uanog] SPAM from .co.ua": 

> ??????? ?? ????, ???????????? ? ????.

? ???? ??? ??? ???? ????????????? (??????, ? ?? ??????? ??????).
?????? ?? ??????? :)

> > ???? ?????, ????? ???? (???? ???????) ???????? ?????? ? ???? *.co.ua ?
> > ? ???? ? ?????? 2018 ???? ~500 ????-???????????? ? ??????? ? ??? ???? :(

???????? :) ?? ??????? ??? ???????? ? ????.


-netch-

From astral at wangsamp.km.ua  Tue Sep 11 17:49:22 2018
From: astral at wangsamp.km.ua (Oleksandr V. Typlyns'kyi)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 17:49:22 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [uanog] SPAM from .co.ua
In-Reply-To: <20180911131125.GZ6156@netch.kiev.ua>
References: <00fc01d3e857$18d88c40$4a89a4c0$@gmail.com>
 <d6aed625-9186-c829-fdaa-32095f38bc87@abbon.net>
 <ba3c3827-cfd5-0b93-299f-7245ad225b28@netassist.kiev.ua>
 <0c2ef956-a2ef-95e2-d84f-405b9886243f@abbon.net>
 <be13a800-7b51-2ce3-a65d-cf9c84fad7fa@uar.net>
 <DC54B5CE-EA41-465B-829D-9927F780225A@netartgroup.com>
 <20180911131125.GZ6156@netch.kiev.ua>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1809111722370.11447@u.fchgavxzrqvn.arg>

Today Sep 11, 2018 at 16:11 Valentin Nechayev wrote:

> > > ???? ?????, ????? ???? (???? ???????) ???????? ?????? ? ???? *.co.ua ?
> > > ? ???? ? ?????? 2018 ???? ~500 ????-???????????? ? ??????? ? ??? ???? :(
> 
> ???????? :) ?? ??????? ??? ???????? ? ????.

? ??? ?? ???????? ????? ?? .biz.ua ? .eu, ??????? ??????? ??????????? ??? ?? ?????????:

Sep 11 11:58:45 postfix/smtpd[89194]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.fizermo.biz.ua[5.9.28.196]: 450 4.7.1 <aqkojdh at fizermo.biz.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 11:59:46 postfix/smtpd[89344]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.intestell.co.ua[176.9.103.48]: 450 4.7.1 <yktinkj at intestell.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 12:52:55 postfix/smtpd[94293]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.intestell.co.ua[176.9.103.91]: 450 4.7.1 <yktinkj at intestell.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 13:43:26 postfix/smtpd[99091]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.airports.co.ua[78.46.40.157]: 450 4.7.1 <offosww at airports.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 13:48:47 postfix/smtpd[99582]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.intestell.co.ua[176.9.103.91]: 450 4.7.1 <yktinkj at intestell.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 14:43:19 postfix/smtpd[5164]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.interstello.co.ua[5.9.60.29]: 450 4.7.1 <oprarxv at interstello.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 14:56:44 postfix/smtpd[6526]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.fizermo.biz.ua[5.9.35.139]: 450 4.7.1 <aqkojdh at fizermo.biz.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 15:40:10 postfix/smtpd[10576]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.airports.co.ua[78.46.40.157]: 450 4.7.1 <offosww at airports.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 15:48:38 postfix/smtpd[11358]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.intestell.co.ua[176.9.103.91]: 450 4.7.1 <yktinkj at intestell.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 15:55:12 postfix/smtpd[11960]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.witersoe.biz.ua[176.9.112.42]: 450 4.7.1 <aqriybv at witersoe.biz.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 16:29:52 postfix/smtpd[15143]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.mideringes.eu[80.86.87.181]: 450 4.7.1 <yjdyfcd at mideringes.eu>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 16:37:43 postfix/smtpd[15918]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.interstello.co.ua[5.9.60.29]: 450 4.7.1 <oprarxv at interstello.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 16:54:00 postfix/smtpd[17449]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.fizermo.biz.ua[5.9.28.196]: 450 4.7.1 <aqkojdh at fizermo.biz.ua>: Sender address rejected

Sep 10 10:03:49 postfix/smtpd[37317]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.informazion.eu[188.138.127.156]: 450 4.7.1 <emxulhb at informazion.eu>: Sender address rejected
Sep 10 10:22:03 postfix/smtpd[39022]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.excluzivem.eu[85.25.226.204]: 450 4.7.1 <unqinvs at excluzivem.eu>: Sender address rejected
Sep 10 14:28:32 postfix/smtpd[62888]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.excluzivem.eu[85.25.226.204]: 450 4.7.1 <unqinvs at excluzivem.eu>: Sender address rejected
Sep 10 15:12:56 postfix/smtpd[67262]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.informazion.eu[188.138.127.156]: 450 4.7.1 <emxulhb at informazion.eu>: Sender address rejected

-- 
WNGS-RIPE

From vladimir.sharun at ukr.net  Tue Sep 11 18:10:30 2018
From: vladimir.sharun at ukr.net (Vladimir Sharun)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 18:10:30 +0300
Subject: [uanog] SPAM from .co.ua
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1809111722370.11447@u.fchgavxzrqvn.arg>
References: <00fc01d3e857$18d88c40$4a89a4c0$@gmail.com>
 <d6aed625-9186-c829-fdaa-32095f38bc87@abbon.net>
 <ba3c3827-cfd5-0b93-299f-7245ad225b28@netassist.kiev.ua>
 <0c2ef956-a2ef-95e2-d84f-405b9886243f@abbon.net>
 <be13a800-7b51-2ce3-a65d-cf9c84fad7fa@uar.net>
 <DC54B5CE-EA41-465B-829D-9927F780225A@netartgroup.com>
 <20180911131125.GZ6156@netch.kiev.ua>
 <alpine.BSF.2.00.1809111722370.11447@u.fchgavxzrqvn.arg>
Message-ID: <1536678061.228983198.7tx0j1cw@frv34.fwdcdn.com>

??????,

??? ??????? intestell ??????? ?? ? ????: ? ????????? ????? ??? ?????? ? ???? ???????, ? ??? ?????????? ??????????? ????????.

?????? ?? ????????? 3ld - ?????????, ???? ? ????????? ?? ????????? - ? ????????-????? ???? ??? ????????? ? ??? ???????????, ??? ?? /24 ? RBL

EU - ahead-it.eu ??????, ???????? ??? ?????? - ???? ?? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????? ? ??????.

?????????, ? ??? ?????? ?? ???????????? ??? ????????? ??????? ? ?????? ???????? ????, ??????? ?????? - ???? (?)????????? ??? ???? ? ????(??), ???? ? ??????? nonexistent ?????? ?

? ??????? ??? ? ???????? ?????? ????? ????????, ?????? ???????? ?????? ????, ????????, ??? ? ??? ???????????? ????? ?? ????????? ?? ?????, ? ???? ?? ? ????? ???-???, ? ??? ???????, ??? ??????? ? ?????. ???? ???????? ??????-??, ?.?. ???? ? ?????? ???????? ?????????? ??????-?? ?????????? ???????, ??? 2011? ???, ? ????-?? ?????, ? ????-?? blend ? ???-?? ?????????? - ?? ?????????.

11 ??????? 2018, 17:49:29, ??? "Oleksandr V. Typlyns'kyi" <astral at wangsamp.km.ua>:

Today Sep 11, 2018 at 16:11 Valentin Nechayev wrote:

> > > ???? ?????, ????? ???? (???? ???????) ???????? ?????? ? ???? *.co.ua ?
> > > ? ???? ? ?????? 2018 ???? ~500 ????-???????????? ? ??????? ? ??? ???? :(
> 
> ???????? :) ?? ??????? ??? ???????? ? ????.

? ??? ?? ???????? ????? ?? .biz.ua ? .eu, ??????? ??????? ??????????? ??? ?? ?????????:

Sep 11 11:58:45 postfix/smtpd[89194]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.fizermo.biz.ua[5.9.28.196]: 450 4.7.1 <aqkojdh at fizermo.biz.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 11:59:46 postfix/smtpd[89344]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail.intestell.co.ua[176.9.103.48]: 450 4.7.1 <yktinkj at intestell.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 12:52:55 postfix/smtpd[94293]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.intestell.co.ua[176.9.103.91]: 450 4.7.1 <yktinkj at intestell.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 13:43:26 postfix/smtpd[99091]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.airports.co.ua[78.46.40.157]: 450 4.7.1 <offosww at airports.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 13:48:47 postfix/smtpd[99582]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.intestell.co.ua[176.9.103.91]: 450 4.7.1 <yktinkj at intestell.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 14:43:19 postfix/smtpd[5164]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.interstello.co.ua[5.9.60.29]: 450 4.7.1 <oprarxv at interstello.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 14:56:44 postfix/smtpd[6526]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.fizermo.biz.ua[5.9.35.139]: 450 4.7.1 <aqkojdh at fizermo.biz.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 15:40:10 postfix/smtpd[10576]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.airports.co.ua[78.46.40.157]: 450 4.7.1 <offosww at airports.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
Sep 11 15:48:38 postfix/smtpd[11358]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from s1.intestell.co.ua[176.9.103.91]: 450 4.7.1 <yktinkj at intestell.co.ua>: Sender address rejected
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From astral at wangsamp.km.ua  Tue Sep 11 21:13:07 2018
From: astral at wangsamp.km.ua (Oleksandr V. Typlyns'kyi)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 21:13:07 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [uanog] SPAM from .co.ua
In-Reply-To: <1536678061.228983198.7tx0j1cw@frv34.fwdcdn.com>
References: <00fc01d3e857$18d88c40$4a89a4c0$@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1809111827360.11447@u.fchgavxzrqvn.arg>

Today Sep 11, 2018 at 18:10 Vladimir Sharun wrote:

> ??? ??????? intestell ??????? ?? ? ????: ? ????????? ????? ??? ?????? ? ???? ???????, ? ??? ?????????? ??????????? ????????.

  ? ???????? spammers.txt ? ?????????? ??????? intestell.co.ua ?? ??????? - ??? ?? ??? ?? ???????? ???? ??????? ??????

> ?????? ?? ????????? 3ld - ?????????, ???? ? ????????? ?? ????????? - ? ????????-????? ???? ??? ????????? ? ??? ???????????, ??? ?? /24 ? RBL
> EU - ahead-it.eu ??????, ???????? ??? ?????? - ???? ?? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????? ? ??????.

  ?????? ? ????, ??? ? ?????? ? ?? ????? - ???????? ??? .biz.ua ??? ??????? .co.ua.
  ? ??? .eu ???????? ???????, ??? ??? ??? ?? ?????????, ??? ????? ????? ??? ?????.
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> ?????????, ? ??? ?????? ?? ???????????? ??? ????????? ??????? ? ?????? ???????? ????, ??????? ?????? - ???? (?)????????? ??? ???? ? ????(??), ???? ? ??????? nonexistent ?????? ?

  ???? ?? ???? ?? ??????? ??????? "???????".
  ??, ??? ? ??????? ?????? - ??? ??? ?? ?????? ? From - ? ????????? ???????? ? ??? ? ????????? ?????? Google ???????.
  ??, ??? ? spammers.txt - ??? ?? ??????? ?????????????? ????????? ???????.
  ??????????? ??????????? ???????, ?? ????? ???????????? ? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ?????????.

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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Wed Sep 12 10:12:42 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:12:42 +0300
Subject: [uanog] Airgrid M2 16dBi
Message-ID: <459a143c-995b-b2c3-21aa-ae67239491a2@gmail.com>

??????,

? ??? ?????, ??? ????? ????? Ubiq Airgrid M2 16dBi? ??? ????? ? 
???????????? ? ? ?????????? ?? ??? ??? (?????? ?? ???? ?????? 
?????????), ? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ?????.

???????.

-- 
Volodymyr Litovka
   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison


From vc at vc.org.ua  Wed Sep 12 10:44:44 2018
From: vc at vc.org.ua (Victor Cheburkin)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:44:44 +0300
Subject: [uanog] Airgrid M2 16dBi
In-Reply-To: <459a143c-995b-b2c3-21aa-ae67239491a2@gmail.com>
References: <459a143c-995b-b2c3-21aa-ae67239491a2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9745634E-1B60-4DAF-AD1F-4A2735C840DE@vc.org.ua>

Hi!

> 12 ????. 2018 ?., ? 10:12, Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ???????(?):
> 
> ??????,
> 
> ? ??? ?????, ??? ????? ????? Ubiq Airgrid M2 16dBi? ??? ????? ? ???????????? ? ? ?????????? ?? ??? ??? (?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?????????), ? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ?????.


http://ubiquiti.net.ua/ubiquiti_airgrid_2m16_antenna_parabolicheskaja_wi_fi
???? ?????? ??????? ? ????? ????..

> ???????.
> 
> -- 
> Volodymyr Litovka
>  "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
> 
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog

-- 
Victor Cheburkin
VC319-RIPE, VC1-UANIC


From doka.ua at gmail.com  Wed Sep 12 11:22:38 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:22:38 +0300
Subject: [uanog] Airgrid M2 16dBi
In-Reply-To: <9745634E-1B60-4DAF-AD1F-4A2735C840DE@vc.org.ua>
References: <459a143c-995b-b2c3-21aa-ae67239491a2@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAJD_Ox0aYzNiNH4FLX2xM9T+YTo8PojuuJm5zG1rLuuK8axrJQ@mail.gmail.com>

??? ?????

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 10:44 Victor Cheburkin <vc at vc.org.ua> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> > 12 ????. 2018 ?., ? 10:12, Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com>
> ???????(?):
> >
> > ??????,
> >
> > ? ??? ?????, ??? ????? ????? Ubiq Airgrid M2 16dBi? ??? ????? ?
> ???????????? ? ? ?????????? ?? ??? ??? (?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?????????), ?
> ???? ??? ???? ?????? ?????.
>
>
> http://ubiquiti.net.ua/ubiquiti_airgrid_2m16_antenna_parabolicheskaja_wi_fi
> ???? ?????? ??????? ? ????? ????..
>
> > ???????.
> >
> > --
> > Volodymyr Litovka
> >  "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > uanog mailing list
> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
> --
> Victor Cheburkin
> VC319-RIPE, VC1-UANIC
>
>
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From vc at vc.org.ua  Wed Sep 12 19:29:33 2018
From: vc at vc.org.ua (Victor Cheburkin)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 19:29:33 +0300
Subject: [uanog] Airgrid M2 16dBi
In-Reply-To: <CAJD_Ox0aYzNiNH4FLX2xM9T+YTo8PojuuJm5zG1rLuuK8axrJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <459a143c-995b-b2c3-21aa-ae67239491a2@gmail.com>
 <9745634E-1B60-4DAF-AD1F-4A2735C840DE@vc.org.ua>
 <CAJD_Ox0aYzNiNH4FLX2xM9T+YTo8PojuuJm5zG1rLuuK8axrJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <454DF594-B541-4DED-B6C9-016D6E66BC5F@vc.org.ua>

Hi!

https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti_airgrid_m2_hp_16dbi

?? ? olx ???? ???:
https://www.olx.ua/list/q-airgrid-m2/
https://www.olx.ua/elektronika/q-airgrid-m2/

> 12 ????. 2018 ?., ? 11:22, Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ???????(?):
> 
> ??? ?????
> 
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 10:44 Victor Cheburkin <vc at vc.org.ua <mailto:vc at vc.org.ua>> wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > 12 ????. 2018 ?., ? 10:12, Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com>> ???????(?):
> > 
> > ??????,
> > 
> > ? ??? ?????, ??? ????? ????? Ubiq Airgrid M2 16dBi? ??? ????? ? ???????????? ? ? ?????????? ?? ??? ??? (?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?????????), ? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ?????.
> 
> 
> http://ubiquiti.net.ua/ubiquiti_airgrid_2m16_antenna_parabolicheskaja_wi_fi <http://ubiquiti.net.ua/ubiquiti_airgrid_2m16_antenna_parabolicheskaja_wi_fi>
> ???? ?????? ??????? ? ????? ????..
> 
> > ???????.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Volodymyr Litovka
> >  "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > uanog mailing list
> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog <https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog>
> 
> -- 
> Victor Cheburkin
> VC319-RIPE, VC1-UANIC
> 

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From tasic at academ.kiev.ua  Thu Sep 13 16:46:30 2018
From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:46:30 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQvtCx0LjQu9GM0L3QsNGPINGB0LLRj9C30Yw=?=
Message-ID: <19AB12A2-7747-4B5A-B3E1-F2B305F74B25@academ.kiev.ua>

     Hi!
? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
????? ????? ?????????

--
Taras Heichenko
tasic at academ.kiev.ua






From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 16:40:45 2018
From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:40:45 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0J/QuNGC0LDQvdC90Y8g0YnQvtC00L4g0L/RgNCw0LI=?=
	=?utf-8?b?0LjQu9GM0L3QvtCz0L4g0LHQtdC60LDQvy3RltC90YHRgtGA0YPQvNC1?=
	=?utf-8?b?0L3RgtCw0YDRltGO?=
Message-ID: <CAJWhN-oy2OC1tCCx3XKqLYYcLm28ziN1KuRxP9DOuxTGMp+urw@mail.gmail.com>

??????? ???.

???????? ????????.
? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ??? ?????? MustDie Server OS (Host OS)
?? ????? ??????? ????????? ??? Hyper-V ???? ?????? VHD-????????? (???????,
??????...).

?? ????????? ???????????? ????? ???????
????????? ?????? ??????? VHD ?? ??????????? - ??? ?? ???????. ??????? space
?? ????????? ????.

????? ????? ????????? ? ???????? "?????? ????????? differential backups
????? Host OS, ???? ?? ????? ????? ?????? Guest OS, ? ?????? ??????????
differential backup ????????? ?????? ?????????, ???????? ??? differential
backups ?????? ? ?????".

?? ?? ???? ????? ????????? ? ??? (open souce)?

????? ????? "?? ?????"?

?????.

-- 
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/oleh hrynchuk
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From alex at euro.net.ua  Tue Sep 18 16:50:12 2018
From: alex at euro.net.ua (Alexander V Soroka)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 16:50:12 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0J/QuNGC0LDQvdC90Y8g0YnQvtC00L4g0L/RgNCw0LI=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0LjQu9GM0L3QvtCz0L4g0LHQtdC60LDQvy3RltC90YHRgtGA0YPQvNC10L0=?=
 =?utf-8?b?0YLQsNGA0ZbRjg==?=
In-Reply-To: <CAJWhN-oy2OC1tCCx3XKqLYYcLm28ziN1KuRxP9DOuxTGMp+urw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJWhN-oy2OC1tCCx3XKqLYYcLm28ziN1KuRxP9DOuxTGMp+urw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1397586554.20180918165012@euro.net.ua>

?????? !

Tuesday, September 18, 2018, 4:40:45 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com you wrote:
OH> ? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ??? ?????? MustDie Server OS (Host OS)
OH> ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ??? Hyper-V ???? ?????? VHD-????????? (???????, ??????...).
OH> ?? ????????? ???????????? ????? ???????
OH> ????????? ?????? ??????? VHD ?? ??????????? - ??? ?? ???????. ??????? space ?? ????????? ????.

?? ?? ??????? ??????, ?? ????? "???????? ????? ????? ??? ????? ????-??
? ?????? ?????" = ???????????? ?????? ?? ????????? :-)

?  "????" ??? ???? ? ?????????? ??????, ?????? ??? ???? ???-?? ???????
?? ???????? ?? "??????" ?? ??? ??????? ???????? "???" ? ?????? ?????

?? ????? ?? ????????? ??????????? :-)


-- 
Best regards,
Alexander V Soroka       http://www.svr.ua/
AS106-RIPE
mailto:alex at euro.net.ua


From doka.ua at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 17:04:36 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:04:36 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0J/QuNGC0LDQvdC90Y8g0YnQvtC00L4g0L/RgNCw0LI=?=
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? ? ????? ?????? differential backup ?? ???????? OS, ??? ? ?????????, ?? 
??????????? block storage ??????? ????????.

???? "???? ????" - ??????? ?? ????? S3 - ? ????????? ?? ????????? ?? 
object storage, ??? ??? ????????, ????? ????????? ????????? 
S3-?????????, ??? ?????? ????????? ? Amazon, Google Drive ????

On 9/18/18 4:40 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
> ??????? ???.
>
> ???????? ????????.
> ? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ??? ?????? MustDie Server OS (Host OS)
> ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ??? Hyper-V ???? ?????? VHD-????????? 
> (???????, ??????...).
>
> ?? ????????? ???????????? ????? ???????
> ????????? ?????? ??????? VHD ?? ??????????? - ??? ?? ???????. ??????? 
> space ?? ????????? ????.
>
> ????? ????? ????????? ? ???????? "?????? ????????? differential 
> backups ????? Host OS, ???? ?? ????? ????? ?????? Guest OS, ? ?????? 
> ?????????? differential backup ????????? ?????? ?????????, ???????? 
> ??? differential backups ?????? ? ?????".
>
> ?? ?? ???? ????? ????????? ? ??? (open souce)?
>
> ????? ????? "?? ?????"?
>
> ?????.
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> /oleh hrynchuk
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 17:12:55 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:12:55 +0300
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?????, ????? ????? guest OS, ?? ????? ?? ??? ???????? ?????????? ???? - 
???, ?????????, ?????? Apple TimeCapsule - ? ???????? ???? OS ? ???? - 
"? ???? ????, ??? ????? ?? ???????????? ?????? ?????? (????? ???????)"

On 9/18/18 5:04 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
> ? ? ????? ?????? differential backup ?? ???????? OS, ??? ? ?????????, 
> ?? ??????????? block storage ??????? ????????.
>
> ???? "???? ????" - ??????? ?? ????? S3 - ? ????????? ?? ????????? ?? 
> object storage, ??? ??? ????????, ????? ????????? ????????? 
> S3-?????????, ??? ?????? ????????? ? Amazon, Google Drive ????
>
> On 9/18/18 4:40 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>> ??????? ???.
>>
>> ???????? ????????.
>> ? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ??? ?????? MustDie Server OS (Host OS)
>> ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ??? Hyper-V ???? ?????? VHD-????????? 
>> (???????, ??????...).
>>
>> ?? ????????? ???????????? ????? ???????
>> ????????? ?????? ??????? VHD ?? ??????????? - ??? ?? ???????. ??????? 
>> space ?? ????????? ????.
>>
>> ????? ????? ????????? ? ???????? "?????? ????????? differential 
>> backups ????? Host OS, ???? ?? ????? ????? ?????? Guest OS, ? ?????? 
>> ?????????? differential backup ????????? ?????? ?????????, ???????? 
>> ??? differential backups ?????? ? ?????".
>>
>> ?? ?? ???? ????? ????????? ? ??? (open souce)?
>>
>> ????? ????? "?? ?????"?
>>
>> ?????.
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> /oleh hrynchuk
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> uanog mailing list
>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
> -- 
> Volodymyr Litovka
>    "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison

-- 
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From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com  Tue Sep 18 17:32:03 2018
From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:32:03 +0300
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???? ? ? ??? ???????.

?????? ??? S3 ?? ?????..

???? ?????!



??, 18 ???. 2018 ? 17:12 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ????:

> ?????, ????? ????? guest OS, ?? ????? ?? ??? ???????? ?????????? ???? -
> ???, ?????????, ?????? Apple TimeCapsule - ? ???????? ???? OS ? ???? - "?
> ???? ????, ??? ????? ?? ???????????? ?????? ?????? (????? ???????)"
>
> On 9/18/18 5:04 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
>
> ? ? ????? ?????? differential backup ?? ???????? OS, ??? ? ?????????, ??
> ??????????? block storage ??????? ????????.
>
> ???? "???? ????" - ??????? ?? ????? S3 - ? ????????? ?? ????????? ??
> object storage, ??? ??? ????????, ????? ????????? ????????? S3-?????????,
> ??? ?????? ????????? ? Amazon, Google Drive ????
>
> On 9/18/18 4:40 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>
> ??????? ???.
>
> ???????? ????????.
> ? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ??? ?????? MustDie Server OS (Host OS)
> ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ??? Hyper-V ???? ?????? VHD-????????? (???????,
> ??????...).
>
> ?? ????????? ???????????? ????? ???????
> ????????? ?????? ??????? VHD ?? ??????????? - ??? ?? ???????. ???????
> space ?? ????????? ????.
>
> ????? ????? ????????? ? ???????? "?????? ????????? differential backups
> ????? Host OS, ???? ?? ????? ????? ?????? Guest OS, ? ?????? ??????????
> differential backup ????????? ?????? ?????????, ???????? ??? differential
> backups ?????? ? ?????".
>
> ?? ?? ???? ????? ????????? ? ??? (open souce)?
>
> ????? ????? "?? ?????"?
>
> ?????.
>
> --
> Regards,
> /oleh hrynchuk
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing listuanog at uanog.kiev.uahttps://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
>
> --
> Volodymyr Litovka
>   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>
>
> --
> Volodymyr Litovka
>   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>
>

-- 
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/oleh hrynchuk
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From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 12:37:53 2018
From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:37:53 +0300
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??????? ???, ??????? ??????.

?????.

?????? ????????.
? ??????????? ???? ? ??????? ??????? ?????? ???????? (?????? ?????, ??????,
????, ???????? ??? ???????? ????).

????? ?????????? ???????, ????? ?? ????????? ???????????? ?????? ??????????
?????? ???????. ?? ??????:
1. ??????? ?????????? ?? ????/???????? ?????,
2. ??????? ???????/???????? ? RFID-?????,
3. ????? ?? ??????? ????? ???? (?? ???? ???)
4. ? ????? ???? ?? ?????.
5. ??????? ????? ??????? - ???????? ?? ????? ???????, ??????? (??????????
??????? ?? ???????) ? ??????????? ???.
6. ????? ???? ????.
7. ????? ??????????? - ? ????? ????? ???? ???????, ?? ?????? ? ???????????
????? ?? ???? ??????? ? ???? ?????.
8. ???? ??? ?????? - ???????? ? ????? ????? ????????, ???????? ???????????,
??????? ????? ????? ????????, ?? ?? ???? ?????????? ??????.

??? ?????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ? ????????? ?????? ???????????
hardware-???????????
????? "?? ?????", ????-?????.

?????.

-- 
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/oleh hrynchuk
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 12:55:53 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:55:53 +0300
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???????????, ?? ????????? ? ?????? - ????? ?? ?? ?????? ? ?????:

- ????????? ?? ???? ?????? ??????? ??????? NFC-?????????
- ????????? ?????????? ????????
- ??? ????? ??????? ???????? _?????????? NFC-?????_, ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? 
???????? ????? ? ??????????? ?????????, ??? ?????????? ????? e-banking 
(????? ?????? ? ????? ?)
- ?? ???? ??? ???? ??????????????? ?? ?????? ??????? ????? ????????
- ??? ?????? - ?????? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ???????????? ?? ???? 
??????? ?:
* ??? ???????????? ?? ?????? ???????
* ??? ????????? ????????
- ??? ?????? ?? ???????? ????????? - ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ? ????????? 
?? ??? ????, ?? ? ??????? ??????

On 9/19/18 12:37 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
> ??????? ???, ??????? ??????.
>
> ?????.
>
> ?????? ????????.
> ? ??????????? ???? ? ??????? ??????? ?????? ???????? (?????? ?????, 
> ??????, ????, ???????? ??? ???????? ????).
>
> ????? ?????????? ???????, ????? ?? ????????? ???????????? ?????? 
> ?????????? ?????? ???????. ?? ??????:
> 1. ??????? ?????????? ?? ????/???????? ?????,
> 2. ??????? ???????/???????? ? RFID-?????,
> 3. ????? ?? ??????? ????? ???? (?? ???? ???)
> 4. ? ????? ???? ?? ?????.
> 5. ??????? ????? ??????? - ???????? ?? ????? ???????, ??????? 
> (?????????? ??????? ?? ???????) ? ??????????? ???.
> 6. ????? ???? ????.
> 7. ????? ??????????? - ? ????? ????? ???? ???????, ?? ?????? ? 
> ??????????? ????? ?? ???? ??????? ? ???? ?????.
> 8. ???? ??? ?????? - ???????? ? ????? ????? ????????, ???????? 
> ???????????, ??????? ????? ????? ????????, ?? ?? ???? ?????????? ??????.
>
> ??? ?????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ? ????????? ?????? 
> ??????????? hardware-???????????
> ????? "?? ?????", ????-?????.
>
> ?????.
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> /oleh hrynchuk
> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
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From alex at euro.net.ua  Wed Sep 19 12:59:50 2018
From: alex at euro.net.ua (Alexander V Soroka)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 12:59:50 +0300
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?????? !

????????? ??????????? ????????? ???????!

??????, ?????? ?? ??? ????? ???????? ??????? ???? ??????? ??????.
???  ?? ?????????? ??? ????? ???????? ?????? ?????????????, ? ???? API
???? ??? ?????????.

Wednesday, September 19, 2018, 12:55:53 PM, Volodymyr Litovka doka.ua at gmail.com you wrote:
VL> ???????????, ?? ????????? ? ?????? - ????? ?? ?? ?????? ? ?????:

VL> - ????????? ?? ???? ?????? ??????? ??????? NFC-?????????
VL> - ????????? ?????????? ????????
VL> - ??? ????? ??????? ???????? _?????????? NFC-?????_, ?? ??? ???
VL> ????     ??? ???????? ????? ? ??????????? ?????????, ???
VL> ?????????? ?????     e-banking (????? ?????? ? ????? ?)
VL> - ?? ???? ??? ???? ??????????????? ?? ?????? ??????? ????? ????????
VL> - ??? ?????? - ?????? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ???????????? ??  ???? ??????? ?:
VL> * ??? ???????????? ?? ?????? ???????
VL> * ??? ????????? ????????
VL> - ??? ?????? ?? ???????? ????????? - ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ?   
VL> ????????? ?? ??? ????, ?? ? ??????? ??????


VL> On 9/19/18 12:37 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk       wrote:
VL>     
VL>   
VL> ??????? ???, ??????? ??????.  

VL>     
VL> ?????.
VL>   
VL>            ?????? ????????.  
VL> ? ??????????? ???? ? ??????? ??????? ?????? ????????          
VL> (?????? ?????, ??????, ????, ???????? ??? ???????? ????).  

VL>     
VL> ????? ?????????? ???????, ????? ?? ????????? ????????????        
VL> ?????? ?????????? ?????? ???????. ?? ??????:
VL>            1. ??????? ?????????? ?? ????/???????? ?????,
VL>            2. ??????? ???????/???????? ? RFID-?????,
VL>            3. ????? ?? ??????? ????? ???? (?? ???? ???)
VL>            4. ? ????? ???? ?? ?????.
VL>            5. ??????? ????? ??????? - ???????? ?? ????? ???????,
VL> ???????           (?????????? ??????? ?? ???????) ? ??????????? ???.
VL>            6. ????? ???? ????.
VL>            7. ????? ??????????? - ? ????? ????? ???? ???????, ??
VL> ?????? ?           ??????????? ????? ?? ???? ??????? ? ???? ?????.
VL>   
VL> 8. ???? ??? ?????? - ???????? ? ????? ????? ????????,            
VL> ???????? ???????????, ??????? ????? ????? ????????, ?? ??          ???? ?????????? ??????.

VL>     
VL> ??? ?????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ? ?????????            
VL> ?????? ??????????? hardware-???????????  
VL> ????? "?? ?????", ????-?????.  

VL>     
VL> ?????.  

VL>              -- 
VL>   
VL> Regards,
VL>              /oleh hrynchuk
VL>   http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com    


VL> _______________________________________________
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-- 
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Alexander V Soroka       http://www.svr.ua/
AS106-RIPE
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From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 13:35:37 2018
From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 13:35:37 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JrQvtC90YHRg9C70YzRgtCw0YbRltGPINC/0L4g0L4=?=
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?????, ?????.

?? ??????? ??????????? ? ??????????????????.

?????, ??????? ??????? ???????? ???? ??????? ?????? ? ????????? ???? (???
??????????? ???? ???????) :))))




??, 19 ???. 2018 ? 13:00 Alexander V Soroka <alex at euro.net.ua> ????:

> ?????? !
>
> ????????? ??????????? ????????? ???????!
>
> ??????, ?????? ?? ??? ????? ???????? ??????? ???? ??????? ??????.
> ???  ?? ?????????? ??? ????? ???????? ?????? ?????????????, ? ???? API
> ???? ??? ?????????.
>
> Wednesday, September 19, 2018, 12:55:53 PM, Volodymyr Litovka
> doka.ua at gmail.com you wrote:
> VL> ???????????, ?? ????????? ? ?????? - ????? ?? ?? ?????? ? ?????:
>
> VL> - ????????? ?? ???? ?????? ??????? ??????? NFC-?????????
> VL> - ????????? ?????????? ????????
> VL> - ??? ????? ??????? ???????? _?????????? NFC-?????_, ?? ??? ???
> VL> ????     ??? ???????? ????? ? ??????????? ?????????, ???
> VL> ?????????? ?????     e-banking (????? ?????? ? ????? ?)
> VL> - ?? ???? ??? ???? ??????????????? ?? ?????? ??????? ????? ????????
> VL> - ??? ?????? - ?????? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ???????????? ??  ????
> ??????? ?:
> VL> * ??? ???????????? ?? ?????? ???????
> VL> * ??? ????????? ????????
> VL> - ??? ?????? ?? ???????? ????????? - ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ?
> VL> ????????? ?? ??? ????, ?? ? ??????? ??????
>
>
> VL> On 9/19/18 12:37 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk       wrote:
> VL>
> VL>
> VL> ??????? ???, ??????? ??????.
>
> VL>
> VL> ?????.
> VL>
> VL>            ?????? ????????.
> VL> ? ??????????? ???? ? ??????? ??????? ?????? ????????
> VL> (?????? ?????, ??????, ????, ???????? ??? ???????? ????).
>
> VL>
> VL> ????? ?????????? ???????, ????? ?? ????????? ????????????
> VL> ?????? ?????????? ?????? ???????. ?? ??????:
> VL>            1. ??????? ?????????? ?? ????/???????? ?????,
> VL>            2. ??????? ???????/???????? ? RFID-?????,
> VL>            3. ????? ?? ??????? ????? ???? (?? ???? ???)
> VL>            4. ? ????? ???? ?? ?????.
> VL>            5. ??????? ????? ??????? - ???????? ?? ????? ???????,
> VL> ???????           (?????????? ??????? ?? ???????) ? ??????????? ???.
> VL>            6. ????? ???? ????.
> VL>            7. ????? ??????????? - ? ????? ????? ???? ???????, ??
> VL> ?????? ?           ??????????? ????? ?? ???? ??????? ? ???? ?????.
> VL>
> VL> 8. ???? ??? ?????? - ???????? ? ????? ????? ????????,
> VL> ???????? ???????????, ??????? ????? ????? ????????, ?? ??
> ???? ?????????? ??????.
>
> VL>
> VL> ??? ?????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ? ?????????
> VL> ?????? ??????????? hardware-???????????
> VL> ????? "?? ?????", ????-?????.
>
> VL>
> VL> ?????.
>
> VL>              --
> VL>
> VL> Regards,
> VL>              /oleh hrynchuk
> VL>   http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>
>
> VL> _______________________________________________
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> mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Alexander V Soroka       http://www.svr.ua/
> AS106-RIPE
> mailto:alex at euro.net.ua
>
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 15:02:55 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 15:02:55 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JrQvtC90YHRg9C70YzRgtCw0YbRltGPINC/0L4g0L4=?=
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??, ??? ?????? ????????? ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? - ???????? ?? ??? 
??????????????? ? ??????? :)

On 9/19/18 1:35 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
> ?????, ?????.
>
> ?? ??????? ??????????? ? ??????????????????.
>
> ?????, ??????? ??????? ???????? ???? ??????? ?????? ? ????????? ???? 
> (??? ??????????? ???? ???????) :))))
>
>
>
>
> ??, 19 ???. 2018 ? 13:00 Alexander V Soroka <alex at euro.net.ua 
> <mailto:alex at euro.net.ua>> ????:
>
>     ?????? !
>
>     ????????? ??????????? ????????? ???????!
>
>     ??????, ?????? ?? ??? ????? ???????? ??????? ???? ??????? ??????.
>     ???? ?? ?????????? ??? ????? ???????? ?????? ?????????????, ? ???? API
>     ???? ??? ?????????.
>
>     Wednesday, September 19, 2018, 12:55:53 PM, Volodymyr Litovka
>     doka.ua at gmail.com <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com> you wrote:
>     VL> ???????????, ?? ????????? ? ?????? - ????? ?? ?? ?????? ? ?????:
>
>     VL> - ????????? ?? ???? ?????? ??????? ??????? NFC-?????????
>     VL> - ????????? ?????????? ????????
>     VL> - ??? ????? ??????? ???????? _?????????? NFC-?????_, ?? ??? ???
>     VL> ????? ? ???? ???????? ????? ? ??????????? ?????????, ???
>     VL> ?????????? ?????? ? ?e-banking (????? ?????? ? ????? ?)
>     VL> - ?? ???? ??? ???? ??????????????? ?? ?????? ??????? ?????
>     ????????
>     VL> - ??? ?????? - ?????? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ????????????
>     ??? ???? ??????? ?:
>     VL> * ??? ???????????? ?? ?????? ???????
>     VL> * ??? ????????? ????????
>     VL> - ??? ?????? ?? ???????? ????????? - ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ?
>     VL> ????????? ?? ??? ????, ?? ? ??????? ??????
>
>
>     VL> On 9/19/18 12:37 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk? ? ? ?wrote:
>     VL>
>     VL>
>     VL> ??????? ???, ??????? ??????.
>
>     VL>
>     VL> ?????.
>     VL>
>     VL>? ? ? ? ? ? ?????? ????????.
>     VL> ? ??????????? ???? ? ??????? ??????? ?????? ????????
>     VL> (?????? ?????, ??????, ????, ???????? ??? ???????? ????).
>
>     VL>
>     VL> ????? ?????????? ???????, ????? ?? ????????? ????????????
>     VL> ?????? ?????????? ?????? ???????. ?? ??????:
>     VL>? ? ? ? ? ? 1. ??????? ?????????? ?? ????/???????? ?????,
>     VL>? ? ? ? ? ? 2. ??????? ???????/???????? ? RFID-?????,
>     VL>? ? ? ? ? ? 3. ????? ?? ??????? ????? ???? (?? ???? ???)
>     VL>? ? ? ? ? ? 4. ? ????? ???? ?? ?????.
>     VL>? ? ? ? ? ? 5. ??????? ????? ??????? - ???????? ?? ????? ???????,
>     VL> ???????? ? ? ? ? ?(?????????? ??????? ?? ???????) ?
>     ??????????? ???.
>     VL>? ? ? ? ? ? 6. ????? ???? ????.
>     VL>? ? ? ? ? ? 7. ????? ??????????? - ? ????? ????? ???? ???????, ??
>     VL> ?????? ?? ? ? ? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ???? ??????? ? ???? ?????.
>     VL>
>     VL> 8. ???? ??? ?????? - ???????? ? ????? ????? ????????,
>     VL> ???????? ???????????, ??????? ????? ????? ????????, ?? ??? ? ?
>     ? ? ???? ?????????? ??????.
>
>     VL>
>     VL> ??? ?????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ? ?????????
>     VL> ?????? ??????????? hardware-???????????
>     VL> ????? "?? ?????", ????-?????.
>
>     VL>
>     VL> ?????.
>
>     VL>? ? ? ? ? ? ? --
>     VL>
>     VL> Regards,
>     VL>? ? ? ? ? ? ? /oleh hrynchuk
>     VL> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>
>
>     VL> _______________________________________________
>     VL> uanog mailing list
>     VL>
>     uanog at uanog.kiev.uahttps://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>     <http://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog>
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Best regards,
>     Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/
>     AS106-RIPE
>     mailto:alex at euro.net.ua <mailto:alex at euro.net.ua>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     uanog mailing list
>     uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>     https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> /oleh hrynchuk
> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 16:23:58 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:23:58 +0300
Subject: [uanog] radius web interface
Message-ID: <233e5e0e-8798-4d88-5581-9280dcd41c60@gmail.com>

??????,

? ????? ??? ???????????? web-????? ? ??????-?????? radius'?, ????? ??? 
????? ???? ????????? ???????/???????? ? ????? ??? ???????????? ??? 
???-?? ?? ??????? security?

???????!

-- 
Volodymyr Litovka
   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison


From rad at fullstack.center  Wed Sep 19 16:25:43 2018
From: rad at fullstack.center (Alex Radetsky)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:25:43 +0300
Subject: [uanog] radius web interface
In-Reply-To: <233e5e0e-8798-4d88-5581-9280dcd41c60@gmail.com>
References: <233e5e0e-8798-4d88-5581-9280dcd41c60@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAStqe7d7Y7Fhebk3Qx=+0qEAMA-ZB4a2Ry3Ox57UwWjvYh+Vw@mail.gmail.com>

??, ? ????? ? ? ??????????? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ?

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 16:24 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> wrote:

> ??????,
>
> ? ????? ??? ???????????? web-????? ? ??????-?????? radius'?, ????? ???
> ????? ???? ????????? ???????/???????? ? ????? ??? ???????????? ???
> ???-?? ?? ??????? security?
>
> ???????!
>
> --
> Volodymyr Litovka
>    "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog

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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 16:26:56 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:26:56 +0300
Subject: [uanog] radius web interface
In-Reply-To: <CAAStqe7d7Y7Fhebk3Qx=+0qEAMA-ZB4a2Ry3Ox57UwWjvYh+Vw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <233e5e0e-8798-4d88-5581-9280dcd41c60@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <e05eafd9-9e09-9fe3-a1f8-63cc0e78a9ac@gmail.com>

????? ??? ????

On 9/19/18 4:25 PM, Alex Radetsky wrote:
> ??, ? ????? ? ? ??????????? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ?
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 16:24 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com 
> <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     ??????,
>
>     ? ????? ??? ???????????? web-????? ? ??????-?????? radius'?, ?????
>     ???
>     ????? ???? ????????? ???????/???????? ? ????? ??? ???????????? ???
>     ???-?? ?? ??????? security?
>
>     ???????!
>
>     -- 
>     Volodymyr Litovka
>     ? ?"Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     uanog mailing list
>     uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>     https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
> -- 
> Alex Radetsky, Fullstack.Center
> http://fullstack.center
> Full-Stack Mobile Applications Technology Center
>

-- 
Volodymyr Litovka
   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison

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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 16:33:36 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:33:36 +0300
Subject: [uanog] radius web interface
In-Reply-To: <233e5e0e-8798-4d88-5581-9280dcd41c60@gmail.com>
References: <233e5e0e-8798-4d88-5581-9280dcd41c60@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c83b5ad2-9df4-485b-e104-8587f11abc8e@gmail.com>

?, ????? ? ???????????? Freeradius ???? ??? ????? -

Dialup Admin has it's own web page hosted at Sourceforge at 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dialup-admin/ though that page is not 
updated very often. The primary store for dialupadmin is the freeradius 
CVS tree so the latest version will always be contained there.

On 9/19/18 4:23 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
> ??????,
>
> ? ????? ??? ???????????? web-????? ? ??????-?????? radius'?, ????? ??? 
> ????? ???? ????????? ???????/???????? ? ????? ??? ???????????? ??? 
> ???-?? ?? ??????? security?
>
> ???????!
>

-- 
Volodymyr Litovka
   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison


From doka.ua at gmail.com  Wed Sep 19 16:49:49 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:49:49 +0300
Subject: [uanog] radius web interface
In-Reply-To: <c83b5ad2-9df4-485b-e104-8587f11abc8e@gmail.com>
References: <233e5e0e-8798-4d88-5581-9280dcd41c60@gmail.com>
 <c83b5ad2-9df4-485b-e104-8587f11abc8e@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c1557a6e-77c4-2118-eaed-2df3919faa31@gmail.com>

?? ??? -

Dialup admin is a web administration interface for the FreeRADIUS 
server. This is PHP software that was cared for by the FreeRADIUS 
Project. The software is currently unmaintained, might not work using 
more recent PHP versions, and possibly has some security issues. Using 
this software is deprecated.

On 9/19/18 4:33 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
> ?, ????? ? ???????????? Freeradius ???? ??? ????? -
>
> Dialup Admin has it's own web page hosted at Sourceforge at 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dialup-admin/ though that page is not 
> updated very often. The primary store for dialupadmin is the 
> freeradius CVS tree so the latest version will always be contained there.
>
> On 9/19/18 4:23 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
>> ??????,
>>
>> ? ????? ??? ???????????? web-????? ? ??????-?????? radius'?, ????? 
>> ??? ????? ???? ????????? ???????/???????? ? ????? ??? ???????????? 
>> ??? ???-?? ?? ??????? security?
>>
>> ???????!
>>
>

-- 
Volodymyr Litovka
   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison


From tav at imc.org.ua  Wed Sep 19 16:53:15 2018
From: tav at imc.org.ua (Alexandr Turovsky)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 16:53:15 +0300
Subject: [uanog] radius web interface
In-Reply-To: <c1557a6e-77c4-2118-eaed-2df3919faa31@gmail.com>
References: <233e5e0e-8798-4d88-5581-9280dcd41c60@gmail.com>
 <c83b5ad2-9df4-485b-e104-8587f11abc8e@gmail.com>
 <c1557a6e-77c4-2118-eaed-2df3919faa31@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <340c597f-13c6-025a-9198-07038337c286@imc.org.ua>

?????? ????.

?????????? daloRADIUS , ???????? ????????.

Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
> ?? ??? -
> 
> Dialup admin is a web administration interface for the FreeRADIUS 
> server. This is PHP software that was cared for by the FreeRADIUS 
> Project. The software is currently unmaintained, might not work using 
> more recent PHP versions, and possibly has some security issues. Using 
> this software is deprecated.
> 
> On 9/19/18 4:33 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
>> ?, ????? ? ???????????? Freeradius ???? ??? ????? -
>>
>> Dialup Admin has it's own web page hosted at Sourceforge at 
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dialup-admin/ though that page is not 
>> updated very often. The primary store for dialupadmin is the 
>> freeradius CVS tree so the latest version will always be contained there.
>>
>> On 9/19/18 4:23 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
>>> ??????,
>>>
>>> ? ????? ??? ???????????? web-????? ? ??????-?????? radius'?, ????? 
>>> ??? ????? ???? ????????? ???????/???????? ? ????? ??? ???????????? 
>>> ??? ???-?? ?? ??????? security?
>>>
>>> ???????!
>>>
>>
> 


-- 
? ?????????,
????????? ?????????
???????????????????? ?????? "???"
+38 050 469 97 11

From rad at fullstack.center  Wed Sep 19 17:01:37 2018
From: rad at fullstack.center (Alex Radetsky)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:01:37 +0300
Subject: [uanog] radius web interface
In-Reply-To: <340c597f-13c6-025a-9198-07038337c286@imc.org.ua>
References: <233e5e0e-8798-4d88-5581-9280dcd41c60@gmail.com>
 <c83b5ad2-9df4-485b-e104-8587f11abc8e@gmail.com>
 <c1557a6e-77c4-2118-eaed-2df3919faa31@gmail.com>
 <340c597f-13c6-025a-9198-07038337c286@imc.org.ua>
Message-ID: <CAAStqe6S3MWckpR4GLGs6RU6OK_rbFCSD_8N5PVgzFkSJVXkTg@mail.gmail.com>

????? ??? ?????? ;) ????? ?? ? ??????????? ???? ?

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 16:53 Alexandr Turovsky <tav at imc.org.ua> wrote:

> ?????? ????.
>
> ?????????? daloRADIUS , ???????? ????????.
>
> Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
> > ?? ??? -
> >
> > Dialup admin is a web administration interface for the FreeRADIUS
> > server. This is PHP software that was cared for by the FreeRADIUS
> > Project. The software is currently unmaintained, might not work using
> > more recent PHP versions, and possibly has some security issues. Using
> > this software is deprecated.
> >
> > On 9/19/18 4:33 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
> >> ?, ????? ? ???????????? Freeradius ???? ??? ????? -
> >>
> >> Dialup Admin has it's own web page hosted at Sourceforge at
> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dialup-admin/ though that page is not
> >> updated very often. The primary store for dialupadmin is the
> >> freeradius CVS tree so the latest version will always be contained
> there.
> >>
> >> On 9/19/18 4:23 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
> >>> ??????,
> >>>
> >>> ? ????? ??? ???????????? web-????? ? ??????-?????? radius'?, ?????
> >>> ??? ????? ???? ????????? ???????/???????? ? ????? ??? ????????????
> >>> ??? ???-?? ?? ??????? security?
> >>>
> >>> ???????!
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> ? ?????????,
> ????????? ?????????
> ???????????????????? ?????? "???"
> +38 050 469 97 11
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog

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http://fullstack.center
Full-Stack Mobile Applications Technology Center
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From edigarov at qarea.com  Thu Sep 20 11:10:48 2018
From: edigarov at qarea.com (Gregory Edigarov)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:10:48 +0300
Subject: [uanog] radius web interface
In-Reply-To: <CAAStqe6S3MWckpR4GLGs6RU6OK_rbFCSD_8N5PVgzFkSJVXkTg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <233e5e0e-8798-4d88-5581-9280dcd41c60@gmail.com>
 <c83b5ad2-9df4-485b-e104-8587f11abc8e@gmail.com>
 <c1557a6e-77c4-2118-eaed-2df3919faa31@gmail.com>
 <340c597f-13c6-025a-9198-07038337c286@imc.org.ua>
 <CAAStqe6S3MWckpR4GLGs6RU6OK_rbFCSD_8N5PVgzFkSJVXkTg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01b719f1-778f-6562-060a-9d5e6e69b1f2@qarea.com>



On 19.09.18 17:01, Alex Radetsky wrote:
> ????? ??? ?????? ;) ????? ?? ? ??????????? ???? ?
>
??, ?? ???? ??? ????????????, ??????? ?????? ??? ? ?????????
?? ??????? - ???? ????????? ??? ????????????.
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 16:53 Alexandr Turovsky <tav at imc.org.ua 
> <mailto:tav at imc.org.ua>> wrote:
>
>     ?????? ????.
>
>     ?????????? daloRADIUS , ???????? ????????.
>
>     Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
>     > ?? ??? -
>     >
>     > Dialup admin is a web administration interface for the FreeRADIUS
>     > server. This is PHP software that was cared for by the FreeRADIUS
>     > Project. The software is currently unmaintained, might not work
>     using
>     > more recent PHP versions, and possibly has some security issues.
>     Using
>     > this software is deprecated.
>     >
>     > On 9/19/18 4:33 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
>     >> ?, ????? ? ???????????? Freeradius ???? ??? ????? -
>     >>
>     >> Dialup Admin has it's own web page hosted at Sourceforge at
>     >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dialup-admin/ though that page
>     is not
>     >> updated very often. The primary store for dialupadmin is the
>     >> freeradius CVS tree so the latest version will always be
>     contained there.
>     >>
>     >> On 9/19/18 4:23 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
>     >>> ??????,
>     >>>
>     >>> ? ????? ??? ???????????? web-????? ? ??????-?????? radius'?,
>     ?????
>     >>> ??? ????? ???? ????????? ???????/???????? ? ????? ???
>     ????????????
>     >>> ??? ???-?? ?? ??????? security?
>     >>>
>     >>> ???????!
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >
>
>
>     -- 
>     ? ?????????,
>     ????????? ?????????
>     ???????????????????? ?????? "???"
>     +38 050 469 97 11
>     _______________________________________________
>     uanog mailing list
>     uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>     https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
> -- 
> Alex Radetsky, Fullstack.Center
> http://fullstack.center
> Full-Stack Mobile Applications Technology Center
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
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From maksym at tulyuk.com  Thu Sep 20 23:18:46 2018
From: maksym at tulyuk.com (Maksym Tulyuk)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:18:46 +0200
Subject: [uanog] radius web interface
In-Reply-To: <01b719f1-778f-6562-060a-9d5e6e69b1f2@qarea.com>
References: <233e5e0e-8798-4d88-5581-9280dcd41c60@gmail.com>
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 <c1557a6e-77c4-2118-eaed-2df3919faa31@gmail.com>
 <340c597f-13c6-025a-9198-07038337c286@imc.org.ua>
 <CAAStqe6S3MWckpR4GLGs6RU6OK_rbFCSD_8N5PVgzFkSJVXkTg@mail.gmail.com>
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? ?? ???? ? ???????? ????????...

Best wishes,
Maksym (via mobile)

> On 20 Sep 2018, at 10:10, Gregory Edigarov <edigarov at qarea.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 19.09.18 17:01, Alex Radetsky wrote:
>> ????? ??? ?????? ;) ????? ?? ? ??????????? ???? ? 
>> 
> ??, ?? ???? ??? ????????????, ??????? ?????? ??? ? ?????????
> ?? ??????? - ???? ????????? ??? ????????????.
>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 16:53 Alexandr Turovsky <tav at imc.org.ua> wrote:
>>> ?????? ????.
>>> 
>>> ?????????? daloRADIUS , ???????? ????????.
>>> 
>>> Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
>>> > ?? ??? -
>>> > 
>>> > Dialup admin is a web administration interface for the FreeRADIUS 
>>> > server. This is PHP software that was cared for by the FreeRADIUS 
>>> > Project. The software is currently unmaintained, might not work using 
>>> > more recent PHP versions, and possibly has some security issues. Using 
>>> > this software is deprecated.
>>> > 
>>> > On 9/19/18 4:33 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
>>> >> ?, ????? ? ???????????? Freeradius ???? ??? ????? -
>>> >>
>>> >> Dialup Admin has it's own web page hosted at Sourceforge at 
>>> >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dialup-admin/ though that page is not 
>>> >> updated very often. The primary store for dialupadmin is the 
>>> >> freeradius CVS tree so the latest version will always be contained there.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 9/19/18 4:23 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote:
>>> >>> ??????,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ? ????? ??? ???????????? web-????? ? ??????-?????? radius'?, ????? 
>>> >>> ??? ????? ???? ????????? ???????/???????? ? ????? ??? ???????????? 
>>> >>> ??? ???-?? ?? ??????? security?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ???????!
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> ? ?????????,
>>> ????????? ?????????
>>> ???????????????????? ?????? "???"
>>> +38 050 469 97 11
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>> http://fullstack.center
>> Full-Stack Mobile Applications Technology Center  
>> 
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From basil at vpm.net.ua  Fri Sep 21 08:01:31 2018
From: basil at vpm.net.ua (Vasiliy P. Melnik)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 08:01:31 +0300
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https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3745820

?????????? ????? ??????? ?????????? ? ????? ?? ???-?? ????????????????. ??? ??? ????? ????????? ? ????? ?????? ???????????? ??????

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From tasic at academ.kiev.ua  Fri Sep 21 12:20:26 2018
From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 12:20:26 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQvtCx0LjQu9GM0L3QsNGPINGB0LLRj9C30Yw=?=
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> On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> wrote:

Hi!
???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????????????

> 
>     Hi!
> ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
> ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
> ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
> ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
> ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
> ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
> ????? ????? ?????????
> 
> --
> Taras Heichenko
> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 07:57:27 2018
From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 07:57:27 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQvtCx0LjQu9GM0L3QsNGPINGB0LLRj9C30Yw=?=
In-Reply-To: <F9676531-8FBA-4D30-AAAA-46473056CB34@academ.kiev.ua>
References: <19AB12A2-7747-4B5A-B3E1-F2B305F74B25@academ.kiev.ua>
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??????? ????? ????.

????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????????? ????? ?????????.
?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????...
????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ???????? ????? ????
???????? ????????????? ????????.
????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (??? ????????? ?????
??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????. ??????? "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??...,
??? ?? ?????????? ??..."

??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "?? ?..??".



??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> ????:

>
>
> > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ?? ?????
> ?????????????
>
> >
> >     Hi!
> > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???, ??????
> ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
> > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ??
> ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
> > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (?????
> ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
> > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ? ?????????
> ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
> > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ?? ??????
> ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
> > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi ??
> ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
> > ????? ????? ?????????
> >
> > --
> > Taras Heichenko
> > tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > uanog mailing list
> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
> --
> Taras Heichenko
> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
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From tasic at academ.kiev.ua  Mon Sep 24 14:09:33 2018
From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:09:33 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQvtCx0LjQu9GM0L3QsNGPINGB0LLRj9C30Yw=?=
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> On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ??????? ????? ????.
> 
> ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
> ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????????? ????? ?????????.
> ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????...
> ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ???????? ????? ???? ???????? ????????????? ????????.
> ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (??? ????????? ????? ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????. ??????? "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??..., ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
> 
> ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "?? ?..??".

????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ??? ???????? ?????????? ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ?? ???? ??????? ??????.
???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (????? ???????????? ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????) ???? ????????, ??
????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.

> 
> 
> 
> ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> ????:
> 
> 
> > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????????????
> 
> > 
> >     Hi!
> > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
> > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
> > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
> > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
> > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
> > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
> > ????? ????? ?????????
> > 
> > --
> > Taras Heichenko
> > tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > uanog mailing list
> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
> 
> --
> Taras Heichenko
> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> /oleh hrynchuk
> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com

--
Taras Heichenko
tasic at academ.kiev.ua






From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 15:06:15 2018
From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:06:15 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQvtCx0LjQu9GM0L3QsNGPINGB0LLRj9C30Yw=?=
In-Reply-To: <98AC3796-9714-43A9-B8DC-199990CC271C@academ.kiev.ua>
References: <19AB12A2-7747-4B5A-B3E1-F2B305F74B25@academ.kiev.ua>
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Message-ID: <CAJWhN-rnOYyPqp4MFwWb58BDZMUwXqHo7-qdHLp-pW-F454gMA@mail.gmail.com>

?? ????????? ????????????? ??????? "?????????" ???????? ???????? ?
????????? (?? ? ? ????? "??c?????" - ?????????? ????????????? ??'????).


P.S. ? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ???????????? ????????.

P.P.S. ? ??????? ??????? (? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ????? ????)
"??c????"  "?????? ???????" ?? client loyalty ?? churn management ? ?????
???? ???????? ?? ?? ????????????? ?? ????????? ????????????? ????????????
?????-????????, ? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ???????
??????-???????????. ??? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ?????? ???????? ?
????'?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????????...



??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 14:09 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> ????:

>
>
> > On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ??????? ????? ????.
> >
> > ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
> > ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????????? ????? ?????????.
> > ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????...
> > ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ???????? ????? ????
> ???????? ????????????? ????????.
> > ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (??? ????????? ?????
> ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????. ??????? "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??...,
> ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
> >
> > ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "?? ?..??".
>
> ????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ??? ???????? ??????????
> ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ?? ???? ??????? ??????.
> ???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (????? ???????????? ?????
> ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????) ???? ????????, ??
> ????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> ????:
> >
> >
> > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> > ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ?? ?????
> ?????????????
> >
> > >
> > >     Hi!
> > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???,
> ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
> > > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ??
> ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
> > > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (?????
> ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
> > > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ?
> ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
> > > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ??
> ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
> > > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi
> ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
> > > ????? ????? ?????????
> > >
> > > --
> > > Taras Heichenko
> > > tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > uanog mailing list
> > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
> >
> > --
> > Taras Heichenko
> > tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > uanog mailing list
> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > /oleh hrynchuk
> > http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>
> --
> Taras Heichenko
> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
Regards,
/oleh hrynchuk
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From edigarov at qarea.com  Mon Sep 24 15:21:40 2018
From: edigarov at qarea.com (Gregory Edigarov)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:21:40 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQvtCx0LjQu9GM0L3QsNGPINGB0LLRj9C30Yw=?=
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On 24.09.18 15:06, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
> ?? ????????? ????????????? ??????? "?????????" ???????? ???????? ? 
> ????????? (?? ? ? ????? "??c?????" - ?????????? ????????????? ??'????).
>
>
> P.S. ? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ???????????? ????????.
>
> P.P.S. ? ??????? ??????? (? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ????? ????)? 
> "??c????"??"?????? ???????" ?? client loyalty ?? churn management ? 
> ????? ???? ???????? ?? ?? ????????????? ?? ????????? ????????????? 
> ???????????? ?????-????????, ? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ??????? 
> ??????-???????????. ??? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ?????? ???????? ? 
> ????'?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????????...
>
??, ? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????? ??????????? ??????????????? ? ???? 
?? ?? ????????, ???? ???? ? ??? ???????. ? ??? ?????????? - ??????.? 
??????-?? ??? ????? ????.
>
>
> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 14:09 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua 
> <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>
>
>
>     > On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk
>     <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com <mailto:oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > ??????? ????? ????.
>     >
>     > ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
>     > ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????????? ?????
>     ?????????.
>     > ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????...
>     > ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ???????? ?????
>     ???? ???????? ????????????? ????????.
>     > ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (???
>     ????????? ????? ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????. ???????
>     "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??..., ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
>     >
>     > ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "?? ?..??".
>
>     ????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ??? ????????
>     ?????????? ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ?? ???? ??????? ??????.
>     ???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (?????
>     ???????????? ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????) ????
>     ????????, ??
>     ????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.
>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>     <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>     >
>     >
>     > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko
>     <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Hi!
>     > ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ??
>     ????? ?????????????
>     >
>     > >
>     > >? ? ?Hi!
>     > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ???
>     ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
>     > > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ??????
>     200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
>     > > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (?????
>     ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
>     > > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ?
>     ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
>     > > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????,
>     ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
>     > > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ?
>     ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
>     > > ????? ????? ?????????
>     > >
>     > > --
>     > > Taras Heichenko
>     > > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > _______________________________________________
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>     > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>     > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>     >
>     > --
>     > Taras Heichenko
>     > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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>     >
>     > --
>     > Regards,
>     > /oleh hrynchuk
>     > http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>
>     --
>     Taras Heichenko
>     tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> /oleh hrynchuk
> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 15:34:54 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:34:54 +0300
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? ?????? ????, ?????????? ? ?? ?????????? ?????. ???? ???????????? 
???????? ?? $3 ?? ???????? ??????, ?? ???????? ? 30?? - ?? $90k, ??? 
?????????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ???????. ???? ? ? ?? ??? ????? ? 
?????????? ??? ??????, ?? ? ? ????? ???????, ? ????? ???? ???? ?? ??.

??????, ???? ??????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ??????? 
????, ?? ???? 
https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti-rocketdish-rd-5g31-ac ?? ??????? 
????????? ???? ?????? ? ????????? 5GHz ? ??? ?????? ???????? - ??-?????, 
???? ????? ????????, ? ??-????? - ???? ???????? (???? ????????, ?? ? ?? 
?????????? ? ???????? ???????????? ?? ????????), ?? ???? ????? ???????? 
?? ????????????? ???? ??? ????? ? ???? ??????? (???? ? ????? ????????? 
?? ????????).

On 9/24/18 3:21 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
>
>
>
> On 24.09.18 15:06, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>> ?? ????????? ????????????? ??????? "?????????" ???????? ???????? ? 
>> ????????? (?? ? ? ????? "??c?????" - ?????????? ????????????? ??'????).
>>
>>
>> P.S. ? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ???????????? ????????.
>>
>> P.P.S. ? ??????? ??????? (? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ????? ????)? 
>> "??c????"??"?????? ???????" ?? client loyalty ?? churn management ? 
>> ????? ???? ???????? ?? ?? ????????????? ?? ????????? ????????????? 
>> ???????????? ?????-????????, ? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ??????? 
>> ??????-???????????. ??? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ?????? ???????? ? 
>> ????'?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????????...
>>
> ??, ? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????? ??????????? ??????????????? ? 
> ???? ?? ?? ????????, ???? ???? ? ??? ???????. ? ??? ?????????? - 
> ??????.? ??????-?? ??? ????? ????.
>>
>>
>> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 14:09 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua 
>> <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>>
>>
>>
>>     > On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk
>>     <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com <mailto:oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     > ??????? ????? ????.
>>     >
>>     > ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
>>     > ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????????? ?????
>>     ?????????.
>>     > ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????...
>>     > ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ???????? ?????
>>     ???? ???????? ????????????? ????????.
>>     > ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (???
>>     ????????? ????? ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????. ???????
>>     "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??..., ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
>>     >
>>     > ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "?? ?..??".
>>
>>     ????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ??? ????????
>>     ?????????? ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ?? ???? ??????? ??????.
>>     ???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (?????
>>     ???????????? ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????) ????
>>     ????????, ??
>>     ????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.
>>
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>>     <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko
>>     <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     > Hi!
>>     > ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ??????
>>     ?? ????? ?????????????
>>     >
>>     > >
>>     > >? ? ?Hi!
>>     > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ???
>>     ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
>>     > > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ??????
>>     200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
>>     > > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ???????????????
>>     (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
>>     > > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ?????
>>     ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
>>     > > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????,
>>     ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
>>     > > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ?
>>     ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
>>     > > ????? ????? ?????????
>>     > >
>>     > > --
>>     > > Taras Heichenko
>>     > > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > > _______________________________________________
>>     > > uanog mailing list
>>     > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>>     > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>     >
>>     > --
>>     > Taras Heichenko
>>     > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > _______________________________________________
>>     > uanog mailing list
>>     > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>>     > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > --
>>     > Regards,
>>     > /oleh hrynchuk
>>     > http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>
>>     --
>>     Taras Heichenko
>>     tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> /oleh hrynchuk
>> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> uanog mailing list
>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
>
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From basil at vpm.net.ua  Mon Sep 24 18:19:17 2018
From: basil at vpm.net.ua (Vasiliy P. Melnik)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 18:19:17 +0300
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? ??? ????-?? ?? ???????, ??? ???????? ????-?? ?????? ???????

??? ???????????? ????????, ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????? ? ????????????
?????????. ???????? ?? ??-?? - ? ??? ? ??? ?????, ?????? ??? ??????, ?
???????? ??????-?? ?????? ??? ?????? ????????.

? ???? ??? ????? ?? 50 ??????? ?? ????????? ? ?????????? ????? ???????,
?????????? ???????? ?? ?????? ? ???, ????? ??????? ? ?????????? ???????
???? ? ???? 3 ????. ?????? ????????? ????? ?? ???????????? ??, ?? ???
???????? ????? ??????? ?????????, ???????? ??? ???-?? ???? ? 100000 ????? -
??? ???? ????? ???? ????????? ????????????
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From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 18:19:36 2018
From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 18:19:36 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQvtCx0LjQu9GM0L3QsNGPINGB0LLRj9C30Yw=?=
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??????, ????????? ?????? ???? ????????????? ?????, ? ???????????
???????????.
??? ????????????? ?? ???????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????????? -
????? ???????????? ???????????, ? ? ??????? ??????? ??????????!
? ??, ?? ???????????? ? ?????????????? ??????? ???????? ???????? ?????, ??
???? ? ????? ??????.

?? ?????????? ?? ?????????? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ?? ???????
??????????
???? ? fraud management ?????????? "???????" ? ??????????? ? ?????????
????????!

???, ????????? ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ??
????????????????? "????????" ?????.
???? ?? ????????, ?? "?????????" ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ? ????????
????? ????????!!!???
???????? ????? (opt-out ????????? ? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ???
???'?????? ???????), ? ????? ?????? ?? ?????????????.

??????? - ?? ? ??????? ???? ?????????? ? ????????? ?????? ?? ???????? ?????
???????? ?????. ???? ? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???????????? ????????, ??? ??
?????? ????????? ?? ????? "????????" ?? ????????????????? ??????. ?
???????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????, ??? ?????? "?????-?????-????" -
?????????? ?????????? :(


??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 15:35 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ????:

> ? ?????? ????, ?????????? ? ?? ?????????? ?????. ???? ????????????
> ???????? ?? $3 ?? ???????? ??????, ?? ???????? ? 30?? - ?? $90k, ???
> ?????????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ???????. ???? ? ? ?? ??? ????? ?
> ?????????? ??? ??????, ?? ? ? ????? ???????, ? ????? ???? ???? ?? ??.
>
> ??????, ???? ??????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ???????
> ????, ?? ???? https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti-rocketdish-rd-5g31-ac
> ?? ??????? ????????? ???? ?????? ? ????????? 5GHz ? ??? ?????? ???????? -
> ??-?????, ???? ????? ????????, ? ??-????? - ???? ???????? (???? ????????,
> ?? ? ?? ?????????? ? ???????? ???????????? ?? ????????), ?? ???? ?????
> ???????? ?? ????????????? ???? ??? ????? ? ???? ??????? (???? ? ?????
> ????????? ?? ????????).
>
> On 9/24/18 3:21 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
>
>
>
> On 24.09.18 15:06, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>
> ?? ????????? ????????????? ??????? "?????????" ???????? ???????? ?
> ????????? (?? ? ? ????? "??c?????" - ?????????? ????????????? ??'????).
>
>
> P.S. ? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ???????????? ????????.
>
> P.P.S. ? ??????? ??????? (? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ????? ????)
> "??c????"  "?????? ???????" ?? client loyalty ?? churn management ? ?????
> ???? ???????? ?? ?? ????????????? ?? ????????? ????????????? ????????????
> ?????-????????, ? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ???????
> ??????-???????????. ??? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ?????? ???????? ?
> ????'?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????????...
>
> ??, ? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????? ??????????? ??????????????? ? ????
> ?? ?? ????????, ???? ???? ? ??? ???????. ? ??? ?????????? - ??????.
> ??????-?? ??? ????? ????.
>
>
>
> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 14:09 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> ????:
>
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ??????? ????? ????.
>> >
>> > ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
>> > ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????????? ????? ?????????.
>> > ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????...
>> > ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ???????? ????? ????
>> ???????? ????????????? ????????.
>> > ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (??? ????????? ?????
>> ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????. ??????? "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??...,
>> ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
>> >
>> > ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "?? ?..??".
>>
>> ????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ??? ????????
>> ?????????? ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ?? ???? ??????? ??????.
>> ???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (????? ????????????
>> ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????) ???? ????????, ??
>> ????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> ????:
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi!
>> > ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ?? ?????
>> ?????????????
>> >
>> > >
>> > >     Hi!
>> > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???,
>> ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
>> > > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ??
>> ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
>> > > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (?????
>> ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
>> > > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ?
>> ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
>> > > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ??
>> ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
>> > > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi
>> ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
>> > > ????? ????? ?????????
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Taras Heichenko
>> > > tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > uanog mailing list
>> > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
>> > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>> >
>> > --
>> > Taras Heichenko
>> > tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > uanog mailing list
>> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
>> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > /oleh hrynchuk
>> > http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>
>> --
>> Taras Heichenko
>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Regards,
> /oleh hrynchuk
> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing listuanog at uanog.kiev.uahttps://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Volodymyr Litovka
>   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>
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From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 18:35:39 +0300
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????? ??????, ? ???? ????? ??????????? ??????? ? ??????????. ????? 
???????? ? ???????????, ??? ? ?????? - ??????? ???? ?? 14 ????? ???? ?? 
????????? ?? ????? ?????, ?? ????? ????? ?????, ?? ??????? ?????? 
??????, ??? ? ?? ???????.

? ???? ????????, ?????????? ??????? ?? ????????? - ??????-???? ?? 
????????? ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ?? ??????? ROI 
(?????? ??????? ????? ??? ??????????? ????????????? ????????, 
fixed-mobile convergence, value added service like targeted/geo 
advertisement ????). ???? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? - ?? ???? ???? 
ROI ?? ?????? ?? ????, ??? ?? :)

???, ???? ? ???????? ???????? ?? ????????????? ????????, ??? ????? ? ??? 
??????? ?? ????????????, ???? ? ??????????? ??? ?? ???????????? ?? ????, 
? ?? ?????? ??????? business case ? 4G, ?? ????? ?? 3G ?? ??? 
???????????? ?????? ?? ????????. ????? ?????? ?? ????? ? ??????????? 
????? ?????????. ?? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ????????? - ?? ?????????? ??????? 
?? ?? ???.

On 9/24/18 6:19 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
> ??????, ????????? ?????? ???? ????????????? ?????, ? ??????????? 
> ???????????.
> ??? ????????????? ?? ???????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????????? - 
> ????? ???????????? ???????????, ? ? ??????? ??????? ??????????!
> ? ??, ?? ???????????? ? ?????????????? ??????? ???????? ???????? 
> ?????, ?? ???? ? ????? ??????.
>
> ?? ?????????? ?? ?????????? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ?? ??????? 
> ??????????
> ???? ? fraud management ?????????? "???????" ? ??????????? ? ????????? 
> ????????!
>
> ???, ????????? ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?? 
> ????????????????? "????????" ?????.
> ???? ?? ????????, ?? "?????????" ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ? 
> ???????? ????? ????????!!!???
> ???????? ????? (opt-out ????????? ? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? 
> ??? ???'?????? ???????), ? ????? ?????? ?? ?????????????.
>
> ??????? - ?? ? ??????? ???? ?????????? ? ????????? ?????? ?? ???????? 
> ????? ???????? ?????. ???? ? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???????????? ????????, 
> ??? ?? ?????? ????????? ?? ????? "????????" ?? ????????????????? 
> ??????. ? ???????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????, ??? ?????? 
> "?????-?????-????" - ?????????? ?????????? :(
>
>
> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 15:35 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com 
> <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com>> ????:
>
>     ? ?????? ????, ?????????? ? ?? ?????????? ?????. ???? ????????????
>     ???????? ?? $3 ?? ???????? ??????, ?? ???????? ? 30?? - ?? $90k,
>     ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ???????. ???? ? ? ?? ???
>     ????? ? ?????????? ??? ??????, ?? ? ? ????? ???????, ? ????? ????
>     ???? ?? ??.
>
>     ??????, ???? ??????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????? ??????
>     ??????? ????, ?? ????
>     https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti-rocketdish-rd-5g31-ac ??
>     ??????? ????????? ???? ?????? ? ????????? 5GHz ? ??? ??????
>     ???????? - ??-?????, ???? ????? ????????, ? ??-????? - ????
>     ???????? (???? ????????, ?? ? ?? ?????????? ? ????????
>     ???????????? ?? ????????), ?? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ?????????????
>     ???? ??? ????? ? ???? ??????? (???? ? ????? ????????? ?? ????????).
>
>     On 9/24/18 3:21 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 24.09.18 15:06, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>>>     ?? ????????? ????????????? ??????? "?????????" ???????? ????????
>>>     ? ????????? (?? ? ? ????? "??c?????" - ?????????? ?????????????
>>>     ??'????).
>>>
>>>
>>>     P.S. ? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ????????????
>>>     ????????.
>>>
>>>     P.P.S. ? ??????? ??????? (? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ?????
>>>     ????)? "??c????"??"?????? ???????" ?? client loyalty ?? churn
>>>     management ? ????? ???? ???????? ?? ?? ????????????? ??
>>>     ????????? ????????????? ???????????? ?????-????????, ? ??
>>>     ?????????????? ???????????? ??????? ??????-???????????. ???
>>>     ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ?????? ???????? ? ????'?????? ??
>>>     ??????? ???? ?? ????????...
>>>
>>     ??, ? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????? ??????????? ???????????????
>>     ? ???? ?? ?? ????????, ???? ???? ? ??? ???????. ? ??? ??????????
>>     - ??????.? ??????-?? ??? ????? ????.
>>>
>>>
>>>     ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 14:09 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>>>     <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         > On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk
>>>         <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com <mailto:oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>>
>>>         wrote:
>>>         >
>>>         > ??????? ????? ????.
>>>         >
>>>         > ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
>>>         > ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ???????????
>>>         ????? ?????????.
>>>         > ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ?
>>>         ?????????? ????...
>>>         > ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ????????
>>>         ????? ???? ???????? ????????????? ????????.
>>>         > ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (???
>>>         ????????? ????? ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????.
>>>         ??????? "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??..., ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
>>>         >
>>>         > ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "??
>>>         ?..??".
>>>
>>>         ????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ???
>>>         ???????? ?????????? ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ?? ????
>>>         ??????? ??????.
>>>         ???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (?????
>>>         ???????????? ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????)
>>>         ???? ????????, ??
>>>         ????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.
>>>
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko
>>>         <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko
>>>         <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> wrote:
>>>         >
>>>         > Hi!
>>>         > ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ?????
>>>         ?????? ?? ????? ?????????????
>>>         >
>>>         > >
>>>         > >? ? ?Hi!
>>>         > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ???
>>>         ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
>>>         > > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ??????
>>>         ?????? 200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
>>>         > > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ???????????????
>>>         (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
>>>         > > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ?
>>>         ????? ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
>>>         > > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ?????
>>>         ???????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
>>>         > > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ?
>>>         ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
>>>         > > ????? ????? ?????????
>>>         > >
>>>         > > --
>>>         > > Taras Heichenko
>>>         > > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>>         > >
>>>         > >
>>>         > >
>>>         > >
>>>         > >
>>>         > > _______________________________________________
>>>         > > uanog mailing list
>>>         > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>>>         > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>>         >
>>>         > --
>>>         > Taras Heichenko
>>>         > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > _______________________________________________
>>>         > uanog mailing list
>>>         > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>>>         > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > --
>>>         > Regards,
>>>         > /oleh hrynchuk
>>>         > http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>         --
>>>         Taras Heichenko
>>>         tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     Regards,
>>>     /oleh hrynchuk
>>>     http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>     uanog mailing list
>>>     uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>>>     https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>
>>
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     uanog mailing list
>>     uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>>     https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
>     -- 
>     Volodymyr Litovka
>        "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     uanog mailing list
>     uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>     https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> /oleh hrynchuk
> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com

-- 
Volodymyr Litovka
   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison

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From unisol at cs.kiev.ua  Mon Sep 24 23:29:49 2018
From: unisol at cs.kiev.ua (Paul Arakelyan)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 23:29:49 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQvtCx0LjQu9GM0L3QsNGPINGB0LLRj9C30Yw=?=
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WiMAX ? ??? ? ??? providers? ????? ?? ???????? ??...

????? ??? ????????? ? ????, ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ????????.
? ?? ????? ????? ???????? ????? :)

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 12:20:26PM +0300, Taras Heichenko wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????????????
> 
> > 
> >     Hi!
> > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
> > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
> > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
> > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
> > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
> > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
> > ????? ????? ?????????
> > 
> > --
> > Taras Heichenko
> > tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > uanog mailing list
> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
> 
> --
> Taras Heichenko
> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog

-- 
Best regards,
Paul Arakelyan.

From lystor at gmail.com  Mon Sep 24 23:39:44 2018
From: lystor at gmail.com (Mykola Ulianytskyi)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 23:39:44 +0300
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQvtCx0LjQu9GM0L3QsNGPINGB0LLRj9C30Yw=?=
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> ????? ??????, ? ???? ????? ??????????? ??????? ? ??????????.

??????? ????? ??? ???????? ?????? ????:

https://www.facebook.com/yagodaserg/posts/477890006041923

--
Best regards,
Mykola

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:35 PM Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ????? ??????, ? ???? ????? ??????????? ??????? ? ??????????. ????? ???????? ? ???????????, ??? ? ?????? - ??????? ???? ?? 14 ????? ???? ?? ????????? ?? ????? ?????, ?? ????? ????? ?????, ?? ??????? ?????? ??????, ??? ? ?? ???????.
>
> ? ???? ????????, ?????????? ??????? ?? ????????? - ??????-???? ?? ????????? ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ?? ??????? ROI (?????? ??????? ????? ??? ??????????? ????????????? ????????, fixed-mobile convergence, value added service like targeted/geo advertisement ????). ???? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? - ?? ???? ???? ROI ?? ?????? ?? ????, ??? ?? :)
>
> ???, ???? ? ???????? ???????? ?? ????????????? ????????, ??? ????? ? ??? ??????? ?? ????????????, ???? ? ??????????? ??? ?? ???????????? ?? ????, ? ?? ?????? ??????? business case ? 4G, ?? ????? ?? 3G ?? ??? ???????????? ?????? ?? ????????. ????? ?????? ?? ????? ? ??????????? ????? ?????????. ?? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ????????? - ?? ?????????? ??????? ?? ?? ???.
>
> On 9/24/18 6:19 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>
> ??????, ????????? ?????? ???? ????????????? ?????, ? ??????????? ???????????.
> ??? ????????????? ?? ???????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????????? - ????? ???????????? ???????????, ? ? ??????? ??????? ??????????!
> ? ??, ?? ???????????? ? ?????????????? ??????? ???????? ???????? ?????, ?? ???? ? ????? ??????.
>
> ?? ?????????? ?? ?????????? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ??????????
> ???? ? fraud management ?????????? "???????" ? ??????????? ? ????????? ????????!
>
> ???, ????????? ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?? ????????????????? "????????" ?????.
> ???? ?? ????????, ?? "?????????" ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ? ???????? ????? ????????!!!???
> ???????? ????? (opt-out ????????? ? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ??? ???'?????? ???????), ? ????? ?????? ?? ?????????????.
>
> ??????? - ?? ? ??????? ???? ?????????? ? ????????? ?????? ?? ???????? ????? ???????? ?????. ???? ? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???????????? ????????, ??? ?? ?????? ????????? ?? ????? "????????" ?? ????????????????? ??????. ? ???????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????, ??? ?????? "?????-?????-????" - ?????????? ?????????? :(
>
>
> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 15:35 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ????:
>>
>> ? ?????? ????, ?????????? ? ?? ?????????? ?????. ???? ???????????? ???????? ?? $3 ?? ???????? ??????, ?? ???????? ? 30?? - ?? $90k, ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ???????. ???? ? ? ?? ??? ????? ? ?????????? ??? ??????, ?? ? ? ????? ???????, ? ????? ???? ???? ?? ??.
>>
>> ??????, ???? ??????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ??????? ????, ?? ???? https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti-rocketdish-rd-5g31-ac ?? ??????? ????????? ???? ?????? ? ????????? 5GHz ? ??? ?????? ???????? - ??-?????, ???? ????? ????????, ? ??-????? - ???? ???????? (???? ????????, ?? ? ?? ?????????? ? ???????? ???????????? ?? ????????), ?? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ????????????? ???? ??? ????? ? ???? ??????? (???? ? ????? ????????? ?? ????????).
>>
>> On 9/24/18 3:21 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24.09.18 15:06, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>>
>> ?? ????????? ????????????? ??????? "?????????" ???????? ???????? ? ????????? (?? ? ? ????? "??c?????" - ?????????? ????????????? ??'????).
>>
>>
>> P.S. ? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ???????????? ????????.
>>
>> P.P.S. ? ??????? ??????? (? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ????? ????)  "??c????"  "?????? ???????" ?? client loyalty ?? churn management ? ????? ???? ???????? ?? ?? ????????????? ?? ????????? ????????????? ???????????? ?????-????????, ? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ??????? ??????-???????????. ??? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ?????? ???????? ? ????'?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????????...
>>
>> ??, ? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????? ??????????? ??????????????? ? ???? ?? ?? ????????, ???? ???? ? ??? ???????. ? ??? ?????????? - ??????.  ??????-?? ??? ????? ????.
>>
>>
>>
>> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 14:09 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> ????:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > ??????? ????? ????.
>>> >
>>> > ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
>>> > ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????????? ????? ?????????.
>>> > ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????...
>>> > ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ???????? ????? ???? ???????? ????????????? ????????.
>>> > ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (??? ????????? ????? ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????. ??????? "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??..., ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
>>> >
>>> > ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "?? ?..??".
>>>
>>> ????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ??? ???????? ?????????? ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ?? ???? ??????? ??????.
>>> ???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (????? ???????????? ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????) ???? ????????, ??
>>> ????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> ????:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi!
>>> > ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????????????
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >     Hi!
>>> > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
>>> > > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
>>> > > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
>>> > > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
>>> > > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
>>> > > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
>>> > > ????? ????? ?????????
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Taras Heichenko
>>> > > tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>> > > uanog mailing list
>>> > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
>>> > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Taras Heichenko
>>> > tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > uanog mailing list
>>> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
>>> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Regards,
>>> > /oleh hrynchuk
>>> > http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> Taras Heichenko
>>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> /oleh hrynchuk
>> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> uanog mailing list
>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> uanog mailing list
>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>
>>
>> --
>> Volodymyr Litovka
>>   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>>
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Tue Sep 25 00:23:48 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
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On 9/24/18 11:39 PM, Mykola Ulianytskyi wrote:
>> ????? ??????, ? ???? ????? ??????????? ??????? ? ??????????.
> ??????? ????? ??? ???????? ?????? ????:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/yagodaserg/posts/477890006041923
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Mykola
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:35 PM Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ????? ??????, ? ???? ????? ??????????? ??????? ? ??????????. ????? ???????? ? ???????????, ??? ? ?????? - ??????? ???? ?? 14 ????? ???? ?? ????????? ?? ????? ?????, ?? ????? ????? ?????, ?? ??????? ?????? ??????, ??? ? ?? ???????.
>>
>> ? ???? ????????, ?????????? ??????? ?? ????????? - ??????-???? ?? ????????? ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ?? ??????? ROI (?????? ??????? ????? ??? ??????????? ????????????? ????????, fixed-mobile convergence, value added service like targeted/geo advertisement ????). ???? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? - ?? ???? ???? ROI ?? ?????? ?? ????, ??? ?? :)
>>
>> ???, ???? ? ???????? ???????? ?? ????????????? ????????, ??? ????? ? ??? ??????? ?? ????????????, ???? ? ??????????? ??? ?? ???????????? ?? ????, ? ?? ?????? ??????? business case ? 4G, ?? ????? ?? 3G ?? ??? ???????????? ?????? ?? ????????. ????? ?????? ?? ????? ? ??????????? ????? ?????????. ?? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ????????? - ?? ?????????? ??????? ?? ?? ???.
>>
>> On 9/24/18 6:19 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>>
>> ??????, ????????? ?????? ???? ????????????? ?????, ? ??????????? ???????????.
>> ??? ????????????? ?? ???????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????????? - ????? ???????????? ???????????, ? ? ??????? ??????? ??????????!
>> ? ??, ?? ???????????? ? ?????????????? ??????? ???????? ???????? ?????, ?? ???? ? ????? ??????.
>>
>> ?? ?????????? ?? ?????????? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ??????????
>> ???? ? fraud management ?????????? "???????" ? ??????????? ? ????????? ????????!
>>
>> ???, ????????? ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?? ????????????????? "????????" ?????.
>> ???? ?? ????????, ?? "?????????" ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ? ???????? ????? ????????!!!???
>> ???????? ????? (opt-out ????????? ? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ??? ???'?????? ???????), ? ????? ?????? ?? ?????????????.
>>
>> ??????? - ?? ? ??????? ???? ?????????? ? ????????? ?????? ?? ???????? ????? ???????? ?????. ???? ? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???????????? ????????, ??? ?? ?????? ????????? ?? ????? "????????" ?? ????????????????? ??????. ? ???????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????, ??? ?????? "?????-?????-????" - ?????????? ?????????? :(
>>
>>
>> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 15:35 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ????:
>>> ? ?????? ????, ?????????? ? ?? ?????????? ?????. ???? ???????????? ???????? ?? $3 ?? ???????? ??????, ?? ???????? ? 30?? - ?? $90k, ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ???????. ???? ? ? ?? ??? ????? ? ?????????? ??? ??????, ?? ? ? ????? ???????, ? ????? ???? ???? ?? ??.
>>>
>>> ??????, ???? ??????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ??????? ????, ?? ???? https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti-rocketdish-rd-5g31-ac ?? ??????? ????????? ???? ?????? ? ????????? 5GHz ? ??? ?????? ???????? - ??-?????, ???? ????? ????????, ? ??-????? - ???? ???????? (???? ????????, ?? ? ?? ?????????? ? ???????? ???????????? ?? ????????), ?? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ????????????? ???? ??? ????? ? ???? ??????? (???? ? ????? ????????? ?? ????????).
>>>
>>> On 9/24/18 3:21 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24.09.18 15:06, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>>>
>>> ?? ????????? ????????????? ??????? "?????????" ???????? ???????? ? ????????? (?? ? ? ????? "??c?????" - ?????????? ????????????? ??'????).
>>>
>>>
>>> P.S. ? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ???????????? ????????.
>>>
>>> P.P.S. ? ??????? ??????? (? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ????? ????)  "??c????"  "?????? ???????" ?? client loyalty ?? churn management ? ????? ???? ???????? ?? ?? ????????????? ?? ????????? ????????????? ???????????? ?????-????????, ? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ??????? ??????-???????????. ??? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ?????? ???????? ? ????'?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????????...
>>>
>>> ??, ? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????? ??????????? ??????????????? ? ???? ?? ?? ????????, ???? ???? ? ??? ???????. ? ??? ?????????? - ??????.  ??????-?? ??? ????? ????.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 14:09 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> ????:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ??????? ????? ????.
>>>>>
>>>>> ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
>>>>> ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????????? ????? ?????????.
>>>>> ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????...
>>>>> ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ???????? ????? ???? ???????? ????????????? ????????.
>>>>> ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (??? ????????? ????? ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????. ??????? "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??..., ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
>>>>>
>>>>> ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "?? ?..??".
>>>> ????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ??? ???????? ?????????? ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ?? ???? ??????? ??????.
>>>> ???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (????? ???????????? ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????) ???? ????????, ??
>>>> ????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> ????:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????????????
>>>>>
>>>>>>      Hi!
>>>>>> ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
>>>>>> ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
>>>>>> ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
>>>>>> ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
>>>>>> ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
>>>>>> ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
>>>>>> ????? ????? ?????????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Taras Heichenko
>>>>>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Taras Heichenko
>>>>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> uanog mailing list
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> /oleh hrynchuk
>>>>> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>>> --
>>>> Taras Heichenko
>>>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> /oleh hrynchuk
>>> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> /oleh hrynchuk
>> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> --
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From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com  Tue Sep 25 07:19:18 2018
From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 07:19:18 +0300
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??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 23:39 Mykola Ulianytskyi <lystor at gmail.com> ????:

> > ????? ??????, ? ???? ????? ??????????? ??????? ? ??????????.
>
> ??????? ????? ??? ???????? ?????? ????:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/yagodaserg/posts/477890006041923
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Mykola
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:35 PM Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ????? ??????, ? ???? ????? ??????????? ??????? ? ??????????. ?????
> ???????? ? ???????????, ??? ? ?????? - ??????? ???? ?? 14 ????? ???? ??
> ????????? ?? ????? ?????, ?? ????? ????? ?????, ?? ??????? ?????? ??????,
> ??? ? ?? ???????.
> >
> > ? ???? ????????, ?????????? ??????? ?? ????????? - ??????-???? ??
> ????????? ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ?? ??????? ROI
> (?????? ??????? ????? ??? ??????????? ????????????? ????????, fixed-mobile
> convergence, value added service like targeted/geo advertisement ????).
> ???? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? - ?? ???? ???? ROI ?? ?????? ?? ????, ???
> ?? :)
> >
> > ???, ???? ? ???????? ???????? ?? ????????????? ????????, ??? ????? ? ???
> ??????? ?? ????????????, ???? ? ??????????? ??? ?? ???????????? ?? ????, ?
> ?? ?????? ??????? business case ? 4G, ?? ????? ?? 3G ?? ??? ????????????
> ?????? ?? ????????. ????? ?????? ?? ????? ? ??????????? ????? ?????????. ??
> ?? ???????? ?? ??? ????????? - ?? ?????????? ??????? ?? ?? ???.
> >
> > On 9/24/18 6:19 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
> >
> > ??????, ????????? ?????? ???? ????????????? ?????, ? ???????????
> ???????????.
> > ??? ????????????? ?? ???????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????????? -
> ????? ???????????? ???????????, ? ? ??????? ??????? ??????????!
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> ?? ???? ? ????? ??????.
> >
> > ?? ?????????? ?? ?????????? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ?? ???????
> ??????????
> > ???? ? fraud management ?????????? "???????" ? ??????????? ? ?????????
> ????????!
> >
> > ???, ????????? ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ??
> ????????????????? "????????" ?????.
> > ???? ?? ????????, ?? "?????????" ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ? ????????
> ????? ????????!!!???
> > ???????? ????? (opt-out ????????? ? ?????????? ?????????? ???????????
> ??? ???'?????? ???????), ? ????? ?????? ?? ?????????????.
> >
> > ??????? - ?? ? ??????? ???? ?????????? ? ????????? ?????? ?? ????????
> ????? ???????? ?????. ???? ? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???????????? ????????, ??? ??
> ?????? ????????? ?? ????? "????????" ?? ????????????????? ??????. ?
> ???????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????, ??? ?????? "?????-?????-????" -
> ?????????? ?????????? :(
> >
> >
> > ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 15:35 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ????:
> >>
> >> ? ?????? ????, ?????????? ? ?? ?????????? ?????. ???? ????????????
> ???????? ?? $3 ?? ???????? ??????, ?? ???????? ? 30?? - ?? $90k, ???
> ?????????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ???????. ???? ? ? ?? ??? ????? ?
> ?????????? ??? ??????, ?? ? ? ????? ???????, ? ????? ???? ???? ?? ??.
> >>
> >> ??????, ???? ??????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ???????
> ????, ?? ???? https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti-rocketdish-rd-5g31-ac
> ?? ??????? ????????? ???? ?????? ? ????????? 5GHz ? ??? ?????? ???????? -
> ??-?????, ???? ????? ????????, ? ??-????? - ???? ???????? (???? ????????,
> ?? ? ?? ?????????? ? ???????? ???????????? ?? ????????), ?? ???? ?????
> ???????? ?? ????????????? ???? ??? ????? ? ???? ??????? (???? ? ?????
> ????????? ?? ????????).
> >>
> >> On 9/24/18 3:21 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 24.09.18 15:06, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
> >>
> >> ?? ????????? ????????????? ??????? "?????????" ???????? ???????? ?
> ????????? (?? ? ? ????? "??c?????" - ?????????? ????????????? ??'????).
> >>
> >>
> >> P.S. ? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ???????????? ????????.
> >>
> >> P.P.S. ? ??????? ??????? (? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ????? ????)
> "??c????"  "?????? ???????" ?? client loyalty ?? churn management ? ?????
> ???? ???????? ?? ?? ????????????? ?? ????????? ????????????? ????????????
> ?????-????????, ? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ???????
> ??????-???????????. ??? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ?????? ???????? ?
> ????'?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????????...
> >>
> >> ??, ? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????? ??????????? ??????????????? ?
> ???? ?? ?? ????????, ???? ???? ? ??? ???????. ? ??? ?????????? - ??????.
> ??????-?? ??? ????? ????.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 14:09 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> ????:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > ??????? ????? ????.
> >>> >
> >>> > ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
> >>> > ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????????? ?????
> ?????????.
> >>> > ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????...
> >>> > ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ???????? ????? ????
> ???????? ????????????? ????????.
> >>> > ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (??? ?????????
> ????? ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????. ??????? "???? ?? ????? ??????,
> ??..., ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
> >>> >
> >>> > ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "?? ?..??".
> >>>
> >>> ????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ??? ????????
> ?????????? ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ?? ???? ??????? ??????.
> >>> ???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (????? ????????????
> ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????) ???? ????????, ??
> >>> ????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
> ????:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi!
> >>> > ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ??
> ????? ?????????????
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >     Hi!
> >>> > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???,
> ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
> >>> > > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500
> ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
> >>> > > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (?????
> ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
> >>> > > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ?
> ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
> >>> > > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ??
> ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
> >>> > > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ???????
> wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
> >>> > > ????? ????? ?????????
> >>> > >
> >>> > > --
> >>> > > Taras Heichenko
> >>> > > tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > _______________________________________________
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> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Taras Heichenko
> >>> > tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > uanog mailing list
> >>> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> >>> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > /oleh hrynchuk
> >>> > http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Taras Heichenko
> >>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> /oleh hrynchuk
> >> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> uanog mailing list
> >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Volodymyr Litovka
> >>   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
> >>
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> >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > /oleh hrynchuk
> > http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > --
> > Volodymyr Litovka
> >   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > uanog mailing list
> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua
> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>


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From: maksym at tulyuk.com (Maksym Tulyuk)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:05:50 +0200
Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQvtCx0LjQu9GM0L3QsNGPINGB0LLRj9C30Yw=?=
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? ?????? ????????? ?? ???????? ?????? ????????????? ?????????/femtocells:
https://www.proximus.be/en/id_cb_mobcov_extend/self-employed-and-small-companies/products/equipments-for-professionals/mobile-coverage-extender-pro.html
https://www.proximus.be/en/id_cb_mobcov_extend_pro/self-employed-and-small-companies/products/equipments-for-professionals/mobile-coverage-extender-pro/mobile-coverage-extender-pro.html

???? ??? ????? ?????????? ????????? ?????????? ?????? ???? ?????...

Best wishes,
Maksym (via mobile)

> On 21 Sep 2018, at 11:20, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????????????
> 
>> 
>>    Hi!
>> ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
>> ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
>> ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
>> ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
>> ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
>> ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
>> ????? ????? ?????????
>> 
>> --
>> Taras Heichenko
>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> --
> Taras Heichenko
> tasic at academ.kiev.ua
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Tue Sep 25 11:41:35 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 11:41:35 +0300
Subject: [uanog] IPSec intro
Message-ID: <36a291b1-9375-7e1a-520c-4728701a97a3@gmail.com>

??????,

????? ???????? ??? unaware people ???? ??? ?????, ??????? - ???? ??? ? 
?????????? ????????, ????? ???? ???????? ?????:

https://www.slideshare.net/dokainua/ipsec-116445221/

Enjoy :-)

-- 
Volodymyr Litovka
   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison


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?????? ????!

??????? "??????? ????????? ??????????? ?? ?????? "??????? ?????????? ?? ????? - ??? ????????? ????????? ??:
1) ???????????
2) ??????? ??????????(??) ? ???????? ???
3) ???????? ? ???????? ?? ????? ?????????????? ????? ? ????
4) ?????? ???????? ? ?????? ?????

?????? ????????? ? ? ??????? ??????

??????

> On 24 Sep 2018, at 17:19, Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ??????, ????????? ?????? ???? ????????????? ?????, ? ??????????? ???????????.
> ??? ????????????? ?? ???????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????????? - ????? ???????????? ???????????, ? ? ??????? ??????? ??????????!
> ? ??, ?? ???????????? ? ?????????????? ??????? ???????? ???????? ?????, ?? ???? ? ????? ??????.
> 
> ?? ?????????? ?? ?????????? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ??????????
> ???? ? fraud management ?????????? "???????" ? ??????????? ? ????????? ????????!
> 
> ???, ????????? ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?? ????????????????? "????????" ?????.
> ???? ?? ????????, ?? "?????????" ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ? ???????? ????? ????????!!!???
> ???????? ????? (opt-out ????????? ? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ??? ???'?????? ???????), ? ????? ?????? ?? ?????????????.
> 
> ??????? - ?? ? ??????? ???? ?????????? ? ????????? ?????? ?? ???????? ????? ???????? ?????. ???? ? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???????????? ????????, ??? ?? ?????? ????????? ?? ????? "????????" ?? ????????????????? ??????. ? ???????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????, ??? ?????? "?????-?????-????" - ?????????? ?????????? :(
> 
> 
> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 15:35 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com>> ????:
> ? ?????? ????, ?????????? ? ?? ?????????? ?????. ???? ???????????? ???????? ?? $3 ?? ???????? ??????, ?? ???????? ? 30?? - ?? $90k, ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ???????. ???? ? ? ?? ??? ????? ? ?????????? ??? ??????, ?? ? ? ????? ???????, ? ????? ???? ???? ?? ??.
> 
> ??????, ???? ??????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ??????? ????, ?? ???? https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti-rocketdish-rd-5g31-ac <https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti-rocketdish-rd-5g31-ac> ?? ??????? ????????? ???? ?????? ? ????????? 5GHz ? ??? ?????? ???????? - ??-?????, ???? ????? ????????, ? ??-????? - ???? ???????? (???? ????????, ?? ? ?? ?????????? ? ???????? ???????????? ?? ????????), ?? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ????????????? ???? ??? ????? ? ???? ??????? (???? ? ????? ????????? ?? ????????).
> 
> On 9/24/18 3:21 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 24.09.18 15:06, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>>> ?? ????????? ????????????? ??????? "?????????" ???????? ???????? ? ????????? (?? ? ? ????? "??c?????" - ?????????? ????????????? ??'????).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> P.S. ? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ???????????? ????????.
>>> 
>>> P.P.S. ? ??????? ??????? (? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ????? ????)  "??c????"  "?????? ???????" ?? client loyalty ?? churn management ? ????? ???? ???????? ?? ?? ????????????? ?? ????????? ????????????? ???????????? ?????-????????, ? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ??????? ??????-???????????. ??? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ?????? ???????? ? ????'?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????????...
>>> 
>> ??, ? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????? ??????????? ??????????????? ? ???? ?? ?? ????????, ???? ???? ? ??? ???????. ? ??? ?????????? - ??????.  ??????-?? ??? ????? ????.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 14:09 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com <mailto:oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > ??????? ????? ????.
>>> > 
>>> > ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
>>> > ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????????? ????? ?????????.
>>> > ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????...
>>> > ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ???????? ????? ???? ???????? ????????????? ????????.
>>> > ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (??? ????????? ????? ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????. ??????? "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??..., ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
>>> > 
>>> > ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "?? ?..??".
>>> 
>>> ????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ??? ???????? ?????????? ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ?? ???? ??????? ??????.
>>> ???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (????? ???????????? ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????) ???? ????????, ??
>>> ????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > Hi!
>>> > ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????????????
>>> > 
>>> > > 
>>> > >     Hi!
>>> > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
>>> > > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
>>> > > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
>>> > > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
>>> > > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
>>> > > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
>>> > > ????? ????? ?????????
>>> > > 
>>> > > --
>>> > > Taras Heichenko
>>> > > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>> > > uanog mailing list
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>>> > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog <https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog>
>>> > 
>>> > --
>>> > Taras Heichenko
>>> > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > uanog mailing list
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>>> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog <https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog>
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > -- 
>>> > Regards,
>>> > /oleh hrynchuk
>>> > http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com <http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com/>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Taras Heichenko
>>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>> /oleh hrynchuk
>>> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com <http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com/>
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> uanog mailing list
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>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog <https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog>
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> uanog mailing list
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>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog <https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog>
> -- 
> Volodymyr Litovka
>   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
> _______________________________________________
> uanog mailing list
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> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> /oleh hrynchuk
> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com <http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com/>_______________________________________________
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From: maksym at tulyuk.com (Maksym Tuyluk)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 21:26:06 +0200
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??????!

Business case for 4G ???? ???????: ????????? CEO/CTO/CFO/CxO and management board ??? ??????????. ??? ????, ??? ?????????? 3G ????????? ????? ?????? ?????? ? ????, ??? ?????????? ?????? ?? ????????. ???? ??? ?????: ??? ??????????, ??? ????? ???? ?????, ??? ????????? ?????. ? ??? ???????? ???????? ????????????? 4G. ???? ????? ????????, ????? ????? ???????.

???????: ??????????? KPN:
- Total assets 13,385 millions EUR
- Total liabilities 10,294 millions EUR
- Operating profit 0,418 million EUR

???????? ???????: ????? ? 25 ????? ?????? ??? ??????. ??????? ???????? ????? ? ???? ??????????

????

> On 24 Sep 2018, at 17:35, Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ????? ??????, ? ???? ????? ??????????? ??????? ? ??????????. ????? ???????? ? ???????????, ??? ? ?????? - ??????? ???? ?? 14 ????? ???? ?? ????????? ?? ????? ?????, ?? ????? ????? ?????, ?? ??????? ?????? ??????, ??? ? ?? ???????.
> 
> ? ???? ????????, ?????????? ??????? ?? ????????? - ??????-???? ?? ????????? ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ?? ??????? ROI (?????? ??????? ????? ??? ??????????? ????????????? ????????, fixed-mobile convergence, value added service like targeted/geo advertisement ????). ???? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? - ?? ???? ???? ROI ?? ?????? ?? ????, ??? ?? :)
> 
> ???, ???? ? ???????? ???????? ?? ????????????? ????????, ??? ????? ? ??? ??????? ?? ????????????, ???? ? ??????????? ??? ?? ???????????? ?? ????, ? ?? ?????? ??????? business case ? 4G, ?? ????? ?? 3G ?? ??? ???????????? ?????? ?? ????????. ????? ?????? ?? ????? ? ??????????? ????? ?????????. ?? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ????????? - ?? ?????????? ??????? ?? ?? ???.
> 
> On 9/24/18 6:19 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>> ??????, ????????? ?????? ???? ????????????? ?????, ? ??????????? ???????????.
>> ??? ????????????? ?? ???????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????????? - ????? ???????????? ???????????, ? ? ??????? ??????? ??????????!
>> ? ??, ?? ???????????? ? ?????????????? ??????? ???????? ???????? ?????, ?? ???? ? ????? ??????.
>> 
>> ?? ?????????? ?? ?????????? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ??????????
>> ???? ? fraud management ?????????? "???????" ? ??????????? ? ????????? ????????!
>> 
>> ???, ????????? ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?? ????????????????? "????????" ?????.
>> ???? ?? ????????, ?? "?????????" ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ? ???????? ????? ????????!!!???
>> ???????? ????? (opt-out ????????? ? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ??? ???'?????? ???????), ? ????? ?????? ?? ?????????????.
>> 
>> ??????? - ?? ? ??????? ???? ?????????? ? ????????? ?????? ?? ???????? ????? ???????? ?????. ???? ? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???????????? ????????, ??? ?? ?????? ????????? ?? ????? "????????" ?? ????????????????? ??????. ? ???????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????, ??? ?????? "?????-?????-????" - ?????????? ?????????? :(
>> 
>> 
>> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 15:35 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com>> ????:
>> ? ?????? ????, ?????????? ? ?? ?????????? ?????. ???? ???????????? ???????? ?? $3 ?? ???????? ??????, ?? ???????? ? 30?? - ?? $90k, ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ???????. ???? ? ? ?? ??? ????? ? ?????????? ??? ??????, ?? ? ? ????? ???????, ? ????? ???? ???? ?? ??.
>> 
>> ??????, ???? ??????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????? ?????? ??????? ????, ?? ???? https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti-rocketdish-rd-5g31-ac <https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti-rocketdish-rd-5g31-ac> ?? ??????? ????????? ???? ?????? ? ????????? 5GHz ? ??? ?????? ???????? - ??-?????, ???? ????? ????????, ? ??-????? - ???? ???????? (???? ????????, ?? ? ?? ?????????? ? ???????? ???????????? ?? ????????), ?? ???? ????? ???????? ?? ????????????? ???? ??? ????? ? ???? ??????? (???? ? ????? ????????? ?? ????????).
>> 
>> On 9/24/18 3:21 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 24.09.18 15:06, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>>>> ?? ????????? ????????????? ??????? "?????????" ???????? ???????? ? ????????? (?? ? ? ????? "??c?????" - ?????????? ????????????? ??'????).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> P.S. ? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ???????????? ????????.
>>>> 
>>>> P.P.S. ? ??????? ??????? (? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ????? ????)  "??c????"  "?????? ???????" ?? client loyalty ?? churn management ? ????? ???? ???????? ?? ?? ????????????? ?? ????????? ????????????? ???????????? ?????-????????, ? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ??????? ??????-???????????. ??? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ?????? ???????? ? ????'?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????????...
>>>> 
>>> ??, ? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????? ??????????? ??????????????? ? ???? ?? ?? ????????, ???? ???? ? ??? ???????. ? ??? ?????????? - ??????.  ??????-?? ??? ????? ????.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 14:09 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> > On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com <mailto:oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > ??????? ????? ????.
>>>> > 
>>>> > ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
>>>> > ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ??????????? ????? ?????????.
>>>> > ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????...
>>>> > ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ???? ???????? ????? ???? ???????? ????????????? ????????.
>>>> > ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (??? ????????? ????? ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????. ??????? "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??..., ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
>>>> > 
>>>> > ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "?? ?..??".
>>>> 
>>>> ????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ??? ???????? ?????????? ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ?? ???? ??????? ??????.
>>>> ???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (????? ???????????? ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????) ???? ????????, ??
>>>> ????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.
>>>> 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Hi!
>>>> > ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????????????
>>>> > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > >     Hi!
>>>> > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
>>>> > > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ?????? ?????? 200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
>>>> > > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ?????? ?? ???
>>>> > > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ? ????? ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
>>>> > > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ????? ???????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
>>>> > > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????), ? ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
>>>> > > ????? ????? ?????????
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Taras Heichenko
>>>> > > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > _______________________________________________
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>>>> > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog <https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog>
>>>> > 
>>>> > --
>>>> > Taras Heichenko
>>>> > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > uanog mailing list
>>>> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>>>> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog <https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog>
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > -- 
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > /oleh hrynchuk
>>>> > http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com <http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com/>
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Taras Heichenko
>>>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> /oleh hrynchuk
>>>> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com <http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com/>
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> uanog mailing list
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>>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog <https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog <https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog>
>> -- 
>> Volodymyr Litovka
>>   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
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>> 
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> /oleh hrynchuk
>> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com <http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com/>
> -- 
> Volodymyr Litovka
>   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
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From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:33:59 +0300
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On 9/26/18 7:56 AM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
> ?????, ???????, ?.???? 
> <https://www.unian.ua/politics/10274616-skandal-u-zsu-sistema-upravlinnya-viyskami-viyavilasya-zahishchena-primitivnimi-parolyami-tipu-admin-i-123456.html>.
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> ?????????? ?????...
>
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(y) :-)

On 9/25/18 10:26 PM, Maksym Tuyluk wrote:
>
> ??????!
>
> Business case for 4G ???? ???????: ????????? CEO/CTO/CFO/CxO and 
> management board ??? ??????????. ??? ????, ??? ?????????? 3G ????????? 
> ????? ?????? ?????? ? ????, ??? ?????????? ?????? ?? ????????. ???? 
> ??? ?????: ??? ??????????, ??? ????? ???? ?????, ??? ????????? ?????. 
> ? ??? ???????? ???????? ????????????? 4G. ???? ????? ????????, ????? 
> ????? ???????.
>
> ???????: ??????????? KPN:
> -?Total assets?13,385 millions EUR
> - Total liabilities 10,294 millions EUR
> - Operating profit 0,418 million EUR
>
> ???????? ???????: ????? ? 25 ????? ?????? ??? ??????. ??????? ???????? 
> ????? ? ???? ??????????
>
> ????
>
>> On 24 Sep 2018, at 17:35, Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> ????? ??????, ? ???? ????? ??????????? ??????? ? ??????????. ????? 
>> ???????? ? ???????????, ??? ? ?????? - ??????? ???? ?? 14 ????? ???? 
>> ?? ????????? ?? ????? ?????, ?? ????? ????? ?????, ?? ??????? ?????? 
>> ??????, ??? ? ?? ???????.
>>
>> ? ???? ????????, ?????????? ??????? ?? ????????? - ??????-???? ?? 
>> ????????? ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ?? ??????? ROI 
>> (?????? ??????? ????? ??? ??????????? ????????????? ????????, 
>> fixed-mobile convergence, value added service like targeted/geo 
>> advertisement ????). ???? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? - ?? ???? ???? 
>> ROI ?? ?????? ?? ????, ??? ?? :)
>>
>> ???, ???? ? ???????? ???????? ?? ????????????? ????????, ??? ????? ? 
>> ??? ??????? ?? ????????????, ???? ? ??????????? ??? ?? ???????????? 
>> ?? ????, ? ?? ?????? ??????? business case ? 4G, ?? ????? ?? 3G ?? 
>> ??? ???????????? ?????? ?? ????????. ????? ?????? ?? ????? ? 
>> ??????????? ????? ?????????. ?? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ????????? - ?? 
>> ?????????? ??????? ?? ?? ???.
>>
>> On 9/24/18 6:19 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>>> ??????, ????????? ?????? ???? ????????????? ?????, ? ??????????? 
>>> ???????????.
>>> ??? ????????????? ?? ???????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????????? 
>>> - ????? ???????????? ???????????, ? ? ??????? ??????? ??????????!
>>> ? ??, ?? ???????????? ? ?????????????? ??????? ???????? ???????? 
>>> ?????, ?? ???? ? ????? ??????.
>>>
>>> ?? ?????????? ?? ?????????? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ?? ??????? 
>>> ??????????
>>> ???? ? fraud management ?????????? "???????" ? ??????????? ? 
>>> ????????? ????????!
>>>
>>> ???, ????????? ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ?? 
>>> ????????????????? "????????" ?????.
>>> ???? ?? ????????, ?? "?????????" ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ? 
>>> ???????? ????? ????????!!!???
>>> ???????? ????? (opt-out ????????? ? ?????????? ?????????? 
>>> ??????????? ??? ???'?????? ???????), ? ????? ?????? ?? ?????????????.
>>>
>>> ??????? - ?? ? ??????? ???? ?????????? ? ????????? ?????? ?? 
>>> ???????? ????? ???????? ?????. ???? ? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???????????? 
>>> ????????, ??? ?? ?????? ????????? ?? ????? "????????" ?? 
>>> ????????????????? ??????. ? ???????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????, ??? 
>>> ?????? "?????-?????-????" - ?????????? ?????????? :(
>>>
>>>
>>> ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 15:35 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com>> ????:
>>>
>>>     ? ?????? ????, ?????????? ? ?? ?????????? ?????. ????
>>>     ???????????? ???????? ?? $3 ?? ???????? ??????, ?? ???????? ?
>>>     30?? - ?? $90k, ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ???????.
>>>     ???? ? ? ?? ??? ????? ? ?????????? ??? ??????, ?? ? ? ?????
>>>     ???????, ? ????? ???? ???? ?? ??.
>>>
>>>     ??????, ???? ??????? ? ???????????? ????????????? ????? ??????
>>>     ??????? ????, ?? ????
>>>     https://lantorg.com/products/ubiquiti-rocketdish-rd-5g31-ac ??
>>>     ??????? ????????? ???? ?????? ? ????????? 5GHz ? ??? ??????
>>>     ???????? - ??-?????, ???? ????? ????????, ? ??-????? - ????
>>>     ???????? (???? ????????, ?? ? ?? ?????????? ? ????????
>>>     ???????????? ?? ????????), ?? ???? ????? ???????? ??
>>>     ????????????? ???? ??? ????? ? ???? ??????? (???? ? ?????
>>>     ????????? ?? ????????).
>>>
>>>     On 9/24/18 3:21 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 24.09.18 15:06, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>>>>>     ?? ????????? ????????????? ??????? "?????????" ????????
>>>>>     ???????? ? ????????? (?? ? ? ????? "??c?????" - ??????????
>>>>>     ????????????? ??'????).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     P.S. ? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??? ????????????? ????????????
>>>>>     ????????.
>>>>>
>>>>>     P.P.S. ? ??????? ??????? (? ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ? ?????
>>>>>     ????)? "??c????"??"?????? ???????" ?? client loyalty ?? churn
>>>>>     management ? ????? ???? ???????? ?? ?? ????????????? ??
>>>>>     ????????? ????????????? ???????????? ?????-????????, ? ??
>>>>>     ?????????????? ???????????? ??????? ??????-???????????. ???
>>>>>     ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ? ?????? ???????? ? ????'?????? ??
>>>>>     ??????? ???? ?? ????????...
>>>>>
>>>>     ??, ? ?? ?? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????? ???????????
>>>>     ??????????????? ? ???? ?? ?? ????????, ???? ???? ? ??? ???????.
>>>>     ? ??? ?????????? - ??????.? ??????-?? ??? ????? ????.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     ??, 24 ???. 2018 ? 14:09 Taras Heichenko <tasic at academ.kiev.ua
>>>>>     <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         > On Sep 24, 2018, at 07:57, Oleh Hrynchuk
>>>>>         <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com <mailto:oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>>
>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > ??????? ????? ????.
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??????.
>>>>>         > ??????????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ???????????
>>>>>         ????? ?????????.
>>>>>         > ?????????? ?? ?????????, ?????? ?????? ??????? ?
>>>>>         ?????????? ????...
>>>>>         > ????? ???????? - "?????? ??????...". ?????, ????
>>>>>         ???????? ????? ???? ???????? ????????????? ????????.
>>>>>         > ????????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? VoIP-gateway (???
>>>>>         ????????? ????? ??????? WiFi) - ????????? ??????????.
>>>>>         ??????? "???? ?? ????? ??????, ??..., ??? ?? ?????????? ??..."
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > ??? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????. ???????, ?? "??
>>>>>         ?..??".
>>>>>
>>>>>         ????,?????. ???????? ? ????????, ????? ??? ??????, ???
>>>>>         ???????? ?????????? ??-?? ???????????? ????? ?????, ??
>>>>>         ???? ??????? ??????.
>>>>>         ???? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?? ?????? (?????
>>>>>         ???????????? ????? ????? ???????? ???????? ?? ???? ??????)
>>>>>         ???? ????????, ??
>>>>>         ????????????? ??? ????? ??????????.
>>>>>
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > ??, 21 ???. 2018 ? 12:20 Taras Heichenko
>>>>>         <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> ????:
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > > On Sep 13, 2018, at 16:46, Taras Heichenko
>>>>>         <tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>> wrote:
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > Hi!
>>>>>         > ???, ????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????, ?????
>>>>>         ?????? ?? ????? ?????????????
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > >
>>>>>         > >? ? ?Hi!
>>>>>         > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ?????
>>>>>         ??? ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
>>>>>         > > ??? ????, ????? ????????? ? ????????, ????? ??????
>>>>>         ?????? 200-500 ?? ??????, ??? ???? ????????? ????????.
>>>>>         > > ????? ???? ???????? ?? ????????? ??????
>>>>>         ??????????????? (????? ?????????), ? ???????????? ??????
>>>>>         ?? ???
>>>>>         > > ???????????. ???????????, ?? ????? ??????? ????????? ?
>>>>>         ????? ? ????????? ?????-?? ????????/?????????????,
>>>>>         > > ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????. ????????? ?????
>>>>>         ???????????????, ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ???????????
>>>>>         > > ??????? ? ??????? ??????? ? ???? (??? ?????????????),
>>>>>         ? ??????? wifi ?? ???????. ???????????, ???, ?? ????? ???????
>>>>>         > > ????? ????? ?????????
>>>>>         > >
>>>>>         > > --
>>>>>         > > Taras Heichenko
>>>>>         > > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>>>>         > >
>>>>>         > >
>>>>>         > >
>>>>>         > >
>>>>>         > >
>>>>>         > > _______________________________________________
>>>>>         > > uanog mailing list
>>>>>         > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>>>>>         > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > --
>>>>>         > Taras Heichenko
>>>>>         > tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > _______________________________________________
>>>>>         > uanog mailing list
>>>>>         > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>>>>>         > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > --
>>>>>         > Regards,
>>>>>         > /oleh hrynchuk
>>>>>         > http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>>>>         <http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>         --
>>>>>         Taras Heichenko
>>>>>         tasic at academ.kiev.ua <mailto:tasic at academ.kiev.ua>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     -- 
>>>>>     Regards,
>>>>>     /oleh hrynchuk
>>>>>     http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com
>>>>>     <http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>>>     uanog mailing list
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>>>>>     https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>>     uanog mailing list
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>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     Volodymyr Litovka
>>>        "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>>>
>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>     uanog mailing list
>>>     uanog at uanog.kiev.ua <mailto:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua>
>>>     https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>> /oleh hrynchuk
>>> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com <http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com/>
>>
>> -- 
>> Volodymyr Litovka
>>    "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>> _______________________________________________
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From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 11:27:31 +0300
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??????, ??????.

? ? ????? ? ??????? "???????? ??????", ???? ??? ??????? ???????? ?????????
?????? ???? ?? ???? ? ???? ?????????????? ?????? (? ??????? ???????), ???
?????? ????? ?1?
????? ???????? ????? "?? ??????" ? ???, ? ??? - ? ??????? ????, ?? ????
????? ????????? ????????? ??????? ???????? ? ???????.
? ???? ???? ????? ???? ??????????? ?? 5-? ?? 112-? ?????

???????? ?????? - ?? ?? ???? ???????? ??????. ??? ?????.





??, 26 ???. 2018 ? 10:34 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ????:

> ????, ?? ????? ???? ??? ????? ? ? ?????, ?? ? ????? ?????, ??? ??????
> ?????????????.
>
> ? ????? ??????? ?????? ???? - ?????? ???? ????????????? ?? ???????
> ????????????. ???? ??????????? ?? ???? "????????? ????? ?????? ?? ??????",
> ???? ?? ????? ? ?????? ????????, ??? ???????? ????? ??????. ?????? ??, ??
> ?????? ??????? ? ???????, ?? ???????????? ????????????, ?? ??? ???????????
> ?????????? "??????" ?? ???????.??, ???? ????? ??????????? ? ??'??????????
> :) ????? ???? ??????, ?? ??? ?????, ? ????????? ????, ???????? ????
> ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ??????????? "???????" ????????? ?? ?????? "????????
> ???????? ??????????".
>
> ?? ??? ???????? ??????, ?? ??????. ???????? ?????? - ???? ????? ????????.
>
> On 9/26/18 7:56 AM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>
> ?????, ???????, ?.????
> <https://www.unian.ua/politics/10274616-skandal-u-zsu-sistema-upravlinnya-viyskami-viyavilasya-zahishchena-primitivnimi-parolyami-tipu-admin-i-123456.html>
> .
> ?? ???????? ??????????, ?? ???????? ?????? ???? ????????? ?????????...
> ??????? ????? ???????? - ?????? ???? ??????.
> ? ???????? ????? ?? ??????? ?.????? ???????. ? ?????? ???????? ??????????
> ?????...
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 11:55:45 +0300
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+1.

??????? ? ?????????? ????????? ????. ??? ?????, ????? ??????? ?? ?????
??? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ?? ??????, ?????????? ?????? ??????.

"?????? ????? ??????, ????? ? ??? ?????" - ?? ??????? ??? ???????.


??, 26 ???. 2018 ? 10:34 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ????:
>
> ????, ?? ????? ???? ??? ????? ? ? ?????, ?? ? ????? ?????, ??? ?????? ?????????????.
>
> ? ????? ??????? ?????? ???? - ?????? ???? ????????????? ?? ??????? ????????????. ???? ??????????? ?? ???? "????????? ????? ?????? ?? ??????", ???? ?? ????? ? ?????? ????????, ??? ???????? ????? ??????. ?????? ??, ?? ?????? ??????? ? ???????, ?? ???????????? ????????????, ?? ??? ??????????? ?????????? "??????" ?? ???????.??, ???? ????? ??????????? ? ??'?????????? :) ????? ???? ??????, ?? ??? ?????, ? ????????? ????, ???????? ???? ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ??????????? "???????" ????????? ?? ?????? "???????? ???????? ??????????".
>
> ?? ??? ???????? ??????, ?? ??????. ???????? ?????? - ???? ????? ????????.
>
> On 9/26/18 7:56 AM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>
> ?????, ???????, ?.????.
> ?? ???????? ??????????, ?? ???????? ?????? ???? ????????? ?????????...
> ??????? ????? ???????? - ?????? ???? ??????.
> ? ???????? ????? ?? ??????? ?.????? ???????. ? ?????? ???????? ?????????? ?????...
>
>
>
>
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Wed Sep 26 12:10:11 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 12:10:11 +0300
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?? ??? - ?????? ??? ??? ?????? ??????????????. ????????, ?? ???? ?????????
?? ?????? ??????, ??? ??????? ???????????.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 11:27 Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com> wrote:

> ??????, ??????.
>
> ? ? ????? ? ??????? "???????? ??????", ???? ??? ??????? ???????? ?????????
> ?????? ???? ?? ???? ? ???? ?????????????? ?????? (? ??????? ???????), ???
> ?????? ????? ?1?
> ????? ???????? ????? "?? ??????" ? ???, ? ??? - ? ??????? ????, ?? ????
> ????? ????????? ????????? ??????? ???????? ? ???????.
> ? ???? ???? ????? ???? ??????????? ?? 5-? ?? 112-? ?????
>
> ???????? ?????? - ?? ?? ???? ???????? ??????. ??? ?????.
>
>
>
>
>
> ??, 26 ???. 2018 ? 10:34 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ????:
>
>> ????, ?? ????? ???? ??? ????? ? ? ?????, ?? ? ????? ?????, ??? ??????
>> ?????????????.
>>
>> ? ????? ??????? ?????? ???? - ?????? ???? ????????????? ?? ???????
>> ????????????. ???? ??????????? ?? ???? "????????? ????? ?????? ?? ??????",
>> ???? ?? ????? ? ?????? ????????, ??? ???????? ????? ??????. ?????? ??, ??
>> ?????? ??????? ? ???????, ?? ???????????? ????????????, ?? ??? ???????????
>> ?????????? "??????" ?? ???????.??, ???? ????? ??????????? ? ??'??????????
>> :) ????? ???? ??????, ?? ??? ?????, ? ????????? ????, ???????? ????
>> ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ??????????? "???????" ????????? ?? ?????? "????????
>> ???????? ??????????".
>>
>> ?? ??? ???????? ??????, ?? ??????. ???????? ?????? - ???? ????? ????????.
>>
>> On 9/26/18 7:56 AM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
>>
>> ?????, ???????, ?.????
>> <https://www.unian.ua/politics/10274616-skandal-u-zsu-sistema-upravlinnya-viyskami-viyavilasya-zahishchena-primitivnimi-parolyami-tipu-admin-i-123456.html>
>> .
>> ?? ???????? ??????????, ?? ???????? ?????? ???? ????????? ?????????...
>> ??????? ????? ???????? - ?????? ???? ??????.
>> ? ???????? ????? ?? ??????? ?.????? ???????. ? ?????? ???????? ??????????
>> ?????...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> --
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>>   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>>
>>
>
> --
> Regards,
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Wed Sep 26 12:36:00 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 12:36:00 +0300
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 07:57 Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com> wrote:

> ?????, ???????, ?.????
> <https://www.unian.ua/politics/10274616-skandal-u-zsu-sistema-upravlinnya-viyskami-viyavilasya-zahishchena-primitivnimi-parolyami-tipu-admin-i-123456.html>
> .
> ?? ???????? ??????????, ?? ???????? ?????? ???? ????????? ?????????...
> ??????? ????? ???????? - ?????? ???? ??????.
> ? ???????? ????? ?? ??????? ?.????? ???????. ? ?????? ???????? ??????????
> ?????...
>
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From menraen at kgs.optima.ua  Wed Sep 26 16:29:51 2018
From: menraen at kgs.optima.ua (Nikolay Naymushin)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:29:51 -0400
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Hi!

? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ????????

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 5:36 AM Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=249893085656599&id=143204836325425
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 07:57 Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ?????, ???????, ?.????
>> <https://www.unian.ua/politics/10274616-skandal-u-zsu-sistema-upravlinnya-viyskami-viyavilasya-zahishchena-primitivnimi-parolyami-tipu-admin-i-123456.html>
>> .
>> ?? ???????? ??????????, ?? ???????? ?????? ???? ????????? ?????????...
>> ??????? ????? ???????? - ?????? ???? ??????.
>> ? ???????? ????? ?? ??????? ?.????? ???????. ? ?????? ???????? ??????????
>> ?????...
>>
>>
>>
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Wed Sep 26 17:43:39 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 17:43:39 +0300
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?? ?? ? ????? ????? ????????? - ???? ???????? ???? ?????????? ?? 
??????????? ?? ????????? ????????. ???? ??? ???? ? ??? ????-?????? dlink 
?? ??????????? ??????? - ?? ????? ? ???????????.

On 9/26/18 4:29 PM, Nikolay Naymushin wrote:
> Hi!
>
> ? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ????????
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 5:36 AM Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com 
> <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=249893085656599&id=143204836325425
>
>     On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 07:57 Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com
>     <mailto:oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         ?????, ???????, ?.????
>         <https://www.unian.ua/politics/10274616-skandal-u-zsu-sistema-upravlinnya-viyskami-viyavilasya-zahishchena-primitivnimi-parolyami-tipu-admin-i-123456.html>.
>         ?? ???????? ??????????, ?? ???????? ?????? ???? ?????????
>         ?????????...
>         ??????? ????? ???????? - ?????? ???? ??????.
>         ? ???????? ????? ?? ??????? ?.????? ???????.?? ?????? ????????
>         ?????????? ?????...
>
>
>
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From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com  Wed Sep 26 18:45:33 2018
From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 18:45:33 +0300
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??????? ?????? ????.

????????????? ?? ??????, ? ??????? ? ????? ? ????????????????? ?? ???? ????
?????? ?? ??????? ????????...

????? ??????, ???????? ??? ???? ????????? ? ?????? ?????? ? ????? - ????
?????.




??, 26 ???. 2018 ? 17:43 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ????:

> ?? ?? ? ????? ????? ????????? - ???? ???????? ???? ?????????? ??
> ??????????? ?? ????????? ????????. ???? ??? ???? ? ??? ????-?????? dlink ??
> ??????????? ??????? - ?? ????? ? ???????????.
>
> On 9/26/18 4:29 PM, Nikolay Naymushin wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> ? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ????????
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 5:36 AM Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=249893085656599&id=143204836325425
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 07:57 Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ?????, ???????, ?.????
>>> <https://www.unian.ua/politics/10274616-skandal-u-zsu-sistema-upravlinnya-viyskami-viyavilasya-zahishchena-primitivnimi-parolyami-tipu-admin-i-123456.html>
>>> .
>>> ?? ???????? ??????????, ?? ???????? ?????? ???? ????????? ?????????...
>>> ??????? ????? ???????? - ?????? ???? ??????.
>>> ? ???????? ????? ?? ??????? ?.????? ???????. ? ?????? ????????
>>> ?????????? ?????...
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Volodymyr Litovka
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From uanog at helg.com  Thu Sep 27 02:51:32 2018
From: uanog at helg.com (Oleg Panashchenko)
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????

Taras Heichenko:

>      Hi!
> ? ???? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????. ???????? ????? ??? ???-???, ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??????????.
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> 
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 6:46 PM Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> ??????? ?????? ????.
>
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>
> ????? ??????, ???????? ??? ???? ????????? ? ?????? ?????? ? ????? - ????
> ?????.
>
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> ??, 26 ???. 2018 ? 17:43 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com> ????:
>
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>> ??????????? ?? ????????? ????????. ???? ??? ???? ? ??? ????-?????? dlink ??
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>>
>> On 9/26/18 4:29 PM, Nikolay Naymushin wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> ? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ????????
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 5:36 AM Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=249893085656599&id=143204836325425
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 07:57 Oleh Hrynchuk <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ?????, ???????, ?.????
>>>> <https://www.unian.ua/politics/10274616-skandal-u-zsu-sistema-upravlinnya-viyskami-viyavilasya-zahishchena-primitivnimi-parolyami-tipu-admin-i-123456.html>
>>>> .
>>>> ?? ???????? ??????????, ?? ???????? ?????? ???? ????????? ?????????...
>>>> ??????? ????? ???????? - ?????? ???? ??????.
>>>> ? ???????? ????? ?? ??????? ?.????? ???????. ? ?????? ????????
>>>> ?????????? ?????...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> Nick Naimushyn
>>
>>
>> --
>> Volodymyr Litovka
>>   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>>
>>
>
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From doka.ua at gmail.com  Thu Sep 27 09:08:14 2018
From: doka.ua at gmail.com (Volodymyr Litovka)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 09:08:14 +0300
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On 9/26/18 6:45 PM, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote:
> ??????? ?????? ????.
>
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>
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>
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>
> ??, 26 ???. 2018 ? 17:43 Volodymyr Litovka <doka.ua at gmail.com 
> <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com>> ????:
>
>     ?? ?? ? ????? ????? ????????? - ???? ???????? ???? ?????????? ??
>     ??????????? ?? ????????? ????????. ???? ??? ???? ? ??? ????-??????
>     dlink ?? ??????????? ??????? - ?? ????? ? ???????????.
>
>     On 9/26/18 4:29 PM, Nikolay Naymushin wrote:
>>     Hi!
>>
>>     ? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ????????
>>
>>     On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 5:36 AM Volodymyr Litovka
>>     <doka.ua at gmail.com <mailto:doka.ua at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=249893085656599&id=143204836325425
>>
>>         On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 07:57 Oleh Hrynchuk
>>         <oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com <mailto:oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             ?????, ???????, ?.????
>>             <https://www.unian.ua/politics/10274616-skandal-u-zsu-sistema-upravlinnya-viyskami-viyavilasya-zahishchena-primitivnimi-parolyami-tipu-admin-i-123456.html>.
>>             ?? ???????? ??????????, ?? ???????? ?????? ???? ?????????
>>             ?????????...
>>             ??????? ????? ???????? - ?????? ???? ??????.
>>             ? ???????? ????? ?? ??????? ?.????? ???????.?? ??????
>>             ???????? ?????????? ?????...
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>     -- 
>>     Regards,
>>     Nick Naimushyn
>
>     -- 
>     Volodymyr Litovka
>        "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison
>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> /oleh hrynchuk
> http://zmejgorynych.blogspot.com

-- 
Volodymyr Litovka
   "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison

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