From abb at abbon.net Mon Jun 3 13:34:39 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 13:34:39 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= Message-ID: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> ???? ??????? ???. ? ?????????? ?? ???-?? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ???? OPzV2 ? ??? ?????? ?????? ???????? ?????, ?? ??? ??? ???????? ???????????? ?? 2? 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Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From maxtul at netassist.kiev.ua Mon Jun 3 20:02:40 2019 From: maxtul at netassist.kiev.ua (Max Tulyev) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 20:02:40 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> Message-ID: <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> ??????? ??? ???? ???????? (? ? ???-?? ?????????)? 03.06.19 13:34, Alexandr Baryshnyev ????: > ???? ??????? ???. > > ? ?????????? ?? ???-?? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ???? OPzV2 ? > > ??? ?????? ?????? ???????? ?????, ?? ??? ??? ???????? ???????????? ?? 2? > (????????? ?????) ? ?????? ?????????? ??????????? ? ???????????? ?????? > ????? ?? ????? ? ???-?? ????????? ??????. ???????? ??????? ??????? > ??????????, ?????? ???? ? ?????? ?????. ??? ??????-?? ??? ??????? > ??????????, ?? ? ? ????????? ??????, ???????. ?????? ???? ????????? > ???????, ?? ????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? > > ???????, ??? ??????????, ??? ?????? ??, ??? ??? ????????? ????? ?? 2 > ??????, ? ?????? ????? ????????? ?????????????? ?????-??????, ? ?? ???, > ??? ? ????????? ?? 12?, ??? ? ???????? ??? ??????? ? ????????? ??????. > ?? ????? ??? ????? ???????? :). > From abb at abbon.net Mon Jun 3 20:14:15 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 20:14:15 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> ??, ?? ?????, ????????? ?? ???. ?? ???????? ?, ??????. ? ?? ??????? ??? ??????? ????? ??? ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? "?? ???????" ??? "? ???????". ?? ???????? ???? ??? ???????? :) 03.06.2019 20:02, Max Tulyev ?????: > ??????? ??? ???? ???????? (? ? ???-?? ?????????)? > > 03.06.19 13:34, Alexandr Baryshnyev ????: >> ???? ??????? ???. >> >> ? ?????????? ?? ???-?? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ???? OPzV2 ? >> >> ??? ?????? ?????? ???????? ?????, ?? ??? ??? ???????? ???????????? ?? 2? 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Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From basil at vpm.net.ua Mon Jun 3 22:03:06 2019 From: basil at vpm.net.ua (VASYL MELNYK) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 22:03:06 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> Message-ID: > > ??, ?? ?????, ????????? ?? ???. ?? ???????? ?, ??????. ? ?? ??????? ??? > ??????? ????? ??? ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? "?? > ???????" ??? 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Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From basil at vpm.net.ua Mon Jun 3 22:42:05 2019 From: basil at vpm.net.ua (VASYL MELNYK) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 22:42:05 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> Message-ID: ??? ??????????? ?????? ? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ????????????? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From netch at netch.kiev.ua Tue Jun 4 06:29:55 2019 From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 06:29:55 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> Message-ID: <20190604032955.GO1081@netch.kiev.ua> Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 22:25:53, abb wrote about "Re: [uanog] ????????? ? ?????????": > ? ??? ????????? ???????, ??? ?????? ??????? ??? ??? ? ?????. ??????, > ? ???? ????? ??????, ?????????? ?????????? ?????????????, ???? > ??????? ???????????????. ???? ??? ????? ???????????? ???????? > ??????? ?????????, ??????? ??? ??? ???????????. _???_ ????? ?????????????? _?????????????????_ ???? ????????? ????????? ?????? ????? ???????? ? 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URL: From alex at euro.net.ua Tue Jun 4 09:22:32 2019 From: alex at euro.net.ua (Alexander V Soroka) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 09:22:32 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <314002017.20190604092232@euro.net.ua> ?????? ! ??????? ?? ????? ????. OPzV2 - ??? "????????? ??????" - ????? ?????? ??? ????????? ? ???????? ????????. ??? ?????????? ???????????? ? ?????? ???? - ????? ??????? ?????? 15 ???. ?? ???? ?? ???????? - ???? ? ????????? ? ?? ?? ?????? - ???? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??? ???, ?? ???????? ???? ??? ????? ????????. ???? ??????? ???????????? ??? ??? - ?????? ??? ????: http://adopt-zu.soroka.org.ua/index.html Monday, June 3, 2019, 8:02:40 PM, Max Tulyev maxtul at netassist.kiev.ua you wrote: MT> ??????? ??? ???? ???????? (? ? ???-?? ?????????)? MT> 03.06.19 13:34, Alexandr Baryshnyev ????: >> ???? ??????? ???. >> >> ? ?????????? ?? ???-?? ?? ?????????????? ???????????? ???? OPzV2 ? >> >> ??? ?????? ?????? ???????? ?????, ?? ??? ??? ???????? ???????????? ?? 2? >> (????????? ?????) ? ?????? ?????????? ??????????? ? ???????????? ?????? >> ????? ?? ????? ? ???-?? ????????? ??????. ???????? ??????? ??????? >> ??????????, ?????? ???? ? ?????? ?????. ??? ??????-?? ??? ??????? >> ??????????, ?? ? ? ????????? ??????, ???????. ?????? ???? ????????? >> ???????, ?? ????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? >> >> ???????, ??? ??????????, ??? ?????? ??, ??? ??? ????????? ????? ?? 2 >> ??????, ? ?????? ????? ????????? ?????????????? ?????-??????, ? ?? ???, >> ??? ? ????????? ?? 12?, ??? ? ???????? ??? ??????? ? ????????? ??????. >> ?? ????? ??? ????? ???????? :). >> MT> _______________________________________________ MT> uanog mailing list MT> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua MT> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Best regards, Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ AS106-RIPE mailto:alex at euro.net.ua From alex at euro.net.ua Tue Jun 4 09:23:50 2019 From: alex at euro.net.ua (Alexander V Soroka) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 09:23:50 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> Message-ID: <1434239016.20190604092350@euro.net.ua> ?????? ! ?????? ???? ??????. ???? ????? ?????????? - ???????? ??????????, ??????? ?? 2? ????? ? ????????? ??? ???????? "???????". Monday, June 3, 2019, 10:03:06 PM, VASYL MELNYK basil at vpm.net.ua you wrote: VM> ? ???? :) VM> ???? ?? ???? ?????? ?????? ???????, ?? ?????????? ??? ?????? ??? VM> ?? ?? ?????, ?????? ??? ???????? ???-?? ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? VM> ????????????????, ??? ??????? ??????? ?? ????? ?????. ???? VM> ????????? ??? ??? ???? - ??????? ?? ????? ?????????? ??????? ?? ??????. VM> ??? ????? ???????? ????? ?????????, ??? ?????? ??????? ????????? VM> ??????? ????????? ?????? ?? ????. -- Best regards, Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ AS106-RIPE mailto:alex at euro.net.ua From alex at euro.net.ua Tue Jun 4 09:32:03 2019 From: alex at euro.net.ua (Alexander V Soroka) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 09:32:03 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: <20190604032955.GO1081@netch.kiev.ua> References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> <20190604032955.GO1081@netch.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <368456409.20190604093203@euro.net.ua> ?????? ! ????? ???? ????? :-) ???????? ??? ?????????? ???????? ???????: ??????????? ?? 1000??? 10? ??????-?????? ???????????? ? ?????? ????? - ??? ?????????? ???? - ??????????? ??????????, ??? ???? - ???????????. ??? ? ?????? "???????? ????????". ???? ????? ??????? (? ?.?. ????????? ???????) ??????? ??? ??????? ?????? ? ??????. ? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ????. ??????: ????? ??? ?? ?????? ? ? 12? ??? ??????? ????????? ?? ??????? - ??? ???????????? ? ???????? ?? ?????? ???????. ? ??? ???????? ??? ???????. ?? ?????? "?????? ? ??? ????? ?? ?????" - ???????: 1) ??? ???????? ?? ????? ??????????, ? ?????????? ????? ?????, ? ??? ????? ??????? ?? ?????????? ????? ??????? ???????. 2) ??????? ????? "??????? ! ?????????!" ????????? ??? ????? ????? ??? ?????? ? ????... ? ????????? ?????? ???? ???????? ?? ??? ? ??????? ?????????? ? ??????! ??? ????? ??? ????? ??. Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 6:29:55 AM, Valentin Nechayev netch at netch.kiev.ua you wrote: VN> ??????? ??? ??? ???????????. _???_ ????? ?????????????? VN> _?????????????????_ ???? ????????? VN> ????????? ?????? ????? ???????? ? UPS ??? ??? ??? ? ??? ????? ?? ??? VN> ????????, ? ???????????? ???????? ? ????????? ???? ? ??????????? VN> ?????, ??????? ????? ???????? ????????? ??????? ?? ????, ??????? VN> ??????, ? ??? ???????? ?? ????? ????????? VN> ??????????? ???? ?? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????????, ??????? ????. -- Best regards, Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ AS106-RIPE mailto:alex at euro.net.ua From alex at euro.net.ua Tue Jun 4 09:33:45 2019 From: alex at euro.net.ua (Alexander V Soroka) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 09:33:45 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> <583bdd3c-deab-14dc-3301-c9aafb65f5ee@abbon.net> Message-ID: <1816649950.20190604093345@euro.net.ua> Hello VASYL, :-)))) ?? ???? ?????????? ???? ??????????? ?? ????? ??????. ????? - ?? ????? ?????????? ??????, ? ?????? ??????? ??????? =1.2 ??????, ? ??? ??????? ????? ??????? 300 ?????. ??????? ??? "?????????? ??????". 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VM> ???-?? ??? ???? ????? ?? ????? ?????? ???????. -- Best regards, Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ AS106-RIPE mailto:alex at euro.net.ua From abb at abbon.net Tue Jun 4 10:23:18 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 10:23:18 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: <20190604032955.GO1081@netch.kiev.ua> References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> <20190604032955.GO1081@netch.kiev.ua> Message-ID: 04.06.2019 6:29, Valentin Nechayev ?????: > Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 22:25:53, abb wrote about "Re: [uanog] ????????? ? ?????????": > >> ? ??? ????????? ???????, ??? ?????? ??????? ??? ??? ? ?????. ??????, >> ? ???? ????? ??????, ?????????? ?????????? ?????????????, ???? >> ??????? ???????????????. ???? ??? ????? ???????????? ???????? >> ??????? ?????????, > > ??????? ??? ??? ???????????. _???_ ????? ?????????????? > _?????????????????_ ???? ????????? > ????????? ?????? ????? ???????? ? 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Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From abb at abbon.net Tue Jun 4 10:38:58 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 10:38:58 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> <583bdd3c-deab-14dc-3301-c9aafb65f5ee@abbon.net> Message-ID: ??-??, ??? ????? ?????? ?? ???? ? ????? ??????? ???????????. ??? ?????? ???? ??????????????? ??????????? ????????? ??? ?????? ???????????, ??????? ??? ???????? ? 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Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From abb at abbon.net Tue Jun 4 10:46:17 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 10:46:17 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: <314002017.20190604092232@euro.net.ua> References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> <314002017.20190604092232@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: <0afc649e-b5a3-f5f9-78bd-68df9d679e7d@abbon.net> ? ????? ????????????, ? ? ?? ????????? :) 04.06.2019 9:22, Alexander V Soroka ?????: > ?????? ! > > ??????? ?? ????? ????. ??-??, ??? ??? ???????, ??????? - ??????????. > OPzV2 - ??? 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Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From abb at abbon.net Tue Jun 4 10:52:45 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 10:52:45 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: <1434239016.20190604092350@euro.net.ua> References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> <1434239016.20190604092350@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: 04.06.2019 9:23, Alexander V Soroka ?????: > ?????? ! > > ?????? ???? ??????. > > ???? ????? ?????????? - ???????? ??????????, ??????? ?? 2? ????? ? > ????????? ??? ???????? 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Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From abb at abbon.net Tue Jun 4 11:05:18 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 11:05:18 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JHQsNGC0LDRgNC10LnQutC4INCyINGB0LXRgNCy0LU=?= =?utf-8?b?0YDQvdGD0Y4=?= In-Reply-To: <368456409.20190604093203@euro.net.ua> References: <5f63cd79-c47f-fb58-c310-9928e89f2a6c@abbon.net> <101dea4e-d3b7-1783-4ed7-85dfdb13084a@netassist.kiev.ua> <0930e312-9ea3-d4f2-0539-469190cb7879@abbon.net> <20190604032955.GO1081@netch.kiev.ua> <368456409.20190604093203@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: <1243a1ca-9c29-cb94-c1d5-79b6580ba76e@abbon.net> 04.06.2019 9:32, Alexander V Soroka ?????: > ?????? ! > > ????? ???? ????? :-) > > ???????? ??? ?????????? ???????? ???????: > ??????????? ?? 1000??? 10? ??????-?????? ???????????? ? ?????? ????? - > ??? ?????????? ???? - ??????????? ??????????, ??? ???? - ???????????. > ??? ? ?????? 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Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 10:52:45 AM, Alexandr Baryshnyev abb at abbon.net you wrote: AB> 04.06.2019 9:23, Alexander V Soroka ?????: >> ?????? ???? ??????. >> ???? ????? ?????????? - ???????? ??????????, ??????? ?? 2? ????? ? >> ????????? ??? ???????? "???????". AB> ? ??? ???, ?????????, ??? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ???. ? ???? ??????????? ??????????: https://prom.ua/p477350007-balansir-dlya-zaryadu.html ???????: battery balancer equalizer for lead acid batteries ??? ????? ?????????? ???????: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-Factory-Price-2V-Lead-Acid_60764125978.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normalList.105.2e3c3c11bsVh6K AB> ??????????? ????? ??????? ?????????? ????????????? ??? AB> ?????, ????? ?????????? ????????? ??? 12? ? 24? ????????? AB> ???????, ?? ??? ???, ????? ?????????? ??? 2? ????????? ????? - AB> ?? ????????. ?????? ?? ?????? ????. ??? ???????? ?????????. AB> ?? ? ????????? ??, ??? ????, ? ???????? ?????????, ?????? ??????? 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DLink/TPLink ? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? ??????. > > 10.05.18 15:04, Alex Cherevko ????: > > ??????, > > > > ?????? ???? ? ???????? ?????????????? ? ????? Wi-Fi "2 ? 1" > ????????? > > TP-Link TL-WR1043ND ver 1.8 (????? https://goo.gl/m7iAqu) ? ????????? > DD-WRT > > v24-sp2 (11/11/14). > > ????? ??????? 10-12 ????????? ????????? (4 ?????, 6 ????????? ?? ? > ??? > > ??? ???-?? ????), ? ???? ??????? 24 ???????? ?????????? HP, ? > ??????? > > ??? ? ?????? ??????? ????????? ???????. > > ??? ?? ??????, ?? ???? ???? ???????: > > > > 1. ???????????? ???????????? ????. ??????, ??? ??? ?????-????? > > ????????, ? ??????, ??? ?? ???????? ???????? ???????. > > 100% ??????? ???????. ?????? ?? ??????, ???????? 1-2 ???? ? ?????. > > ??????, ?? ?? ??????. > > > > 2. Wi-Fi ????? ?????? 2.4, ? ????????? ????? ??? ? ?????? ???????. > > > > 3. Security ?????? ????????, ??????? ????? ?????? ????????, ????? > > ??????, > ?? > > ??????. > > > > 4. ???? ?? ???????, ?????????? ????????? ?????, ?????? ? ??????? > ??????????? > > ???????. > > ??????? ???????????? Static Leases + ????????? ?????? ???? ? ?????? > ?? > ????? > > ????? ???????? ??????. > > > > 5. ???????????? ???????? ??????? - ?? ????? ?????? ???????? > ??????. > > > > ?????? ? ????????????: > > > > 1. ??????? ????????????? ??? Wi-Fi, ??????? ?????? WAN, > ????????? NAT, > > Firewall, Static Leases, DNS, OpenVPN, ?????? "?????" ? ?????? ?????? > > (?????????? ?????? Ubuntu ??? ?????? Linux ?????-??). > > 2. ????????? ??????????? ????? (??? ?????????) ??? ??????????? > > ???????? ??????? ?? ???? ????????. > > 3. ???????? ?? ??? ??? ??? ?? ?? ????? ??????? ??????. > > > > ??????????, ??????????, ???? ?? ????????? ???????? ??????? ??? > > ????????? ???????? > > ???????? ??? ???????????? ??????? ???????? - ??????? ?????????. > > > > Mikrotik + Routerboard ??????? ?? ??????????. ???? ???? ? ?? > ??????? > > ?????????????? "2 ? 1", ??? ?????? ?? ???????? Wi-Fi ?????, ? ????? > ?? > > ?????? ????. > > ????????? ???????? ??????? routerboard 1100 ???????? ?????????, > ?? ??? > > ????????? ????????? "???? ? ????", ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ???? ???? > ?????????. > > > > ? ?????????, > > ????????? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > uanog mailing list > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog From abb at abbon.net Sat Jun 8 22:45:03 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 22:45:03 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?OC0xMiDQv9C+0YDRgtC+0LLRi9C5INC00L7QvNCw0Yg=?= =?utf-8?b?0L3QuNC5IHN3aXRjaCAo0LIg0L/RgNC+0LTQvtC70LbQtdC90LjQtSAi0J8=?= =?utf-8?b?0L7RgdC+0LLQtdGC0YPQudGC0LUg0LTQvtC80LDRiNC90LjQtSDQvNCw0YA=?= =?utf-8?b?0YjRgNGD0YLQuNC30LDRgtC+0YAg0Lgg0YLQvtGH0LrRgyIp?= In-Reply-To: <008001d51e23$641082f0$2c3188d0$@gmail.com> References: <008001d51e23$641082f0$2c3188d0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d4ad67d-602d-fdcf-69fa-c86c548a0535@abbon.net> ??????, ?? ????? ???????? ??????????, ??? ??? ????????? ????????, ??? ??????? ?????? ??????. ?????? ???????? ? ?????, ??? ???????????? ? ?? ?? ??? ??????. ???, ???????, ???? ?????????????? ??????????, ?? ????? ???????, ????????, ??? ??? ???? ??????. ? ???? ???? 100-?????????? ?? ??????????? ???, ??? ????? ??????????. ??? ??? ??????? ?????? 10-??????? ? ?????????. ? ??? ?????? 08.06.2019 20:55, Alex Cherevko ?????: > ???? ??????, > > ???????? ??? ????? ???? ??????? Ubiquiti EdgeRouter + UniFI AC Pro, ??????? > ? ??? ??? ????? ??? reboot'?? (?????????? ?????????????) ??????? ???? > ????????. > ??????? ????????? ? ?????? ?????? ???????? ?? ????. > > ? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????, ?????????????? ???????????, > ??????????, 8-12 ???????? 1Gb switch (???? ???? ?? ???????? ??? ??????) ?? > ????????? ??????? ? ?????, ?? ??? ???? ?? ?? ??? ?????? ? ? ????????? > ??????????? (??? ????????????). > > ??????? ?? ????????. > > ? ?????????, > ????????? -- Best regards, Alexandr B. Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From allliv at gmail.com Sun Jun 9 02:45:06 2019 From: allliv at gmail.com (Alex Cherevko) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 02:45:06 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?OC0xMiDQv9C+0YDRgtC+0LLRi9C5INC00L7QvNCw0Yg=?= =?utf-8?b?0L3QuNC5IHN3aXRjaCAo0LIg0L/RgNC+0LTQvtC70LbQtdC90LjQtSAi?= =?utf-8?b?0J/QvtGB0L7QstC10YLRg9C50YLQtSDQtNC+0LzQsNGI0L3QuNC1INC8?= =?utf-8?b?0LDRgNGI0YDRg9GC0LjQt9Cw0YLQvtGAINC4INGC0L7Rh9C60YMiKQ==?= In-Reply-To: <2d4ad67d-602d-fdcf-69fa-c86c548a0535@abbon.net> References: <008001d51e23$641082f0$2c3188d0$@gmail.com> <2d4ad67d-602d-fdcf-69fa-c86c548a0535@abbon.net> Message-ID: <013201d51e54$33c2d3b0$9b487b10$@gmail.com> ??????? ?? ?????. ????????????? - ??????????. ?????? ???? ?????-?? Dlink TP-Link'?? ?????? ???????, ??? ???? ???-?? ??????????? ?????. > -----Original Message----- > From: uanog On Behalf Of Alexandr > Baryshnyev > Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 10:45 PM > To: uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > Subject: Re: [uanog] 8-12 ???????? ???????? switch (? ??????????? > "??????????? ???????? ????????????? ? ?????") > > ??????, > > ?? ????? ???????? ??????????, ??? ??? ????????? ????????, ??? > ??????? ?????? ??????. > ?????? ???????? ? ?????, ??? ???????????? ? ?? ?? ??? ??????. > ???, ???????, ???? ?????????????? ??????????, ?? ????? ???????, > ????????, ??? ??? ???? ??????. > ? ???? ???? 100-?????????? ?? ??????????? ???, ??? ????? > ??????????. > ??? ??? ??????? ?????? 10-??????? ? ?????????. ? ??? ?????? > > 08.06.2019 20:55, Alex Cherevko ?????: > > ???? ??????, > > > > ???????? ??? ????? ???? ??????? Ubiquiti EdgeRouter + UniFI AC Pro, > > ??????? ? ??? ??? ????? ??? reboot'?? (?????????? ?????????????) > > ??????? ???? ????????. > > ??????? ????????? ? ?????? ?????? ???????? ?? ????. > > > > ? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????, ?????????????? > ???????????, > > ??????????, 8-12 ???????? 1Gb switch (???? ???? ?? ???????? ??? > > ??????) ?? ????????? ??????? ? ?????, ?? ??? ???? ?? ?? ??? ?????? ? > ? > > ????????? ??????????? (??? ????????????). > > > > ??????? ?? ????????. > > > > ? ?????????, > > ????????? > > -- > Best regards, > Alexandr B. Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog From doka at xlit.one Sun Jun 9 20:46:46 2019 From: doka at xlit.one (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 20:46:46 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+0YAg0LTQu9GPIG91dGRv?= =?utf-8?q?or_cabling?= Message-ID: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> ??????, ???? ?????? ?????????? ????????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ?????????? ?? 50 ?????? (?.?. ????). ???? ???????? ????? ????????????? ?? 200 ??????? ? ?? 2000 ??????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? :) ????? ?????????? ?????????? ??????? ????????? ? ??? - ? ??????? UTP ??? ?? ????? :) -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison From abb at abbon.net Sun Jun 9 21:43:48 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 21:43:48 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+0YAg0LTQu9GPIG91dGRv?= =?utf-8?q?or_cabling?= In-Reply-To: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> References: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> Message-ID: ??????, ?? ? ???? ??????, 50? ?? ?????, ???? ????????????? ????? ?????????? - ??????????????? ?????? ??? ?????. ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ?? ??????, ?? ???????????? ??????? ????, ???? ?????? ??????????. ? ???... ??????? ?????????????, ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ???????, ???? ????? ???????? ? ??? ??????? ??????? ??????? ???? ??? ???????, ???????????? ??? ????? ???? ??????? ? ??? ???? ??????, ?? ????????????. ?????? 50-???????? ??????? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ? ??? ????? ??????????, ?? ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ??????, ???? "?????? ???? ?????? ??????". ?????? ?? ???? - ??????? ???????, ???????????? ???, ?????? ??????? ?????? ?????, ?? ?????? ?????. ?? ? ???? ?????? ?? ??????? ? ?????? ????? ? ????? ??????, ?? ????? ??? ??????????? ? ???? ????????, ?????????? ??. ?????? ????? ?? ??????? ?????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ??????, ????? ??????, ???? ?????. ?????????? ?????, ????? ???????, ???? ?? ????? ??????????. ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ???????? ?? ??????????, ?????? ?????. "??? ?????? ? ???? ??????", ?? ???? ???? ??? ? ??????? ? ????, ?????? ??????. ???? ?????? ????-???? ?????, ?? ??????? ? ?????? ????????????? ???????? ???????. ??????????? ????? "? ??????? 100500 ?????????", ?? ??????? ?? ????????, ??? ????? ?????? ?????????? ????????. ???-?? ???. ???????! 09.06.2019 20:46, Volodymyr Litovka ?????: > ??????, > > ???? ?????? ?????????? ????????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ?????????? ?? 50 ?????? (?.?. ????). ???? ???????? ????? > ????????????? ?? 200 ??????? ? ?? 2000 ??????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? :) ????? ?????????? > ?????????? ??????? ????????? > > ? ??? - ? ??????? UTP ??? ?? ????? :) > -- Best regards, Alexandr B. Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From doka at xlit.one Mon Jun 10 09:26:32 2019 From: doka at xlit.one (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 09:26:32 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+0YAg0LTQu9GPIG91dGRv?= =?utf-8?q?or_cabling?= In-Reply-To: References: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> Message-ID: <2c1e7b90-8832-8b06-ead5-b58660d450d4@xlit.one> ??????, ??????? ?? ?????????, ? ????????????? ??? ????. ??? ?? ????? ???? ????????? ??????????????? ??????? ????? ????? 1,5 ??????, ????????? ??????? ?? ??????????????? ?????? (?????? ????? ????? ??????). ????? ???? ???????? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??? ? ????? ?????? +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ | | | | | | | | | | | | +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ ^ + ^ | | | +------+-----------------v------------------+------+ ?/? ????? On 6/9/19 9:43 PM, Alexandr Baryshnyev wrote: > ??????, > > ?? ? ???? ??????, 50? ?? ?????, ???? ????????????? ????? ?????????? - > ??????????????? ?????? ??? ?????. ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ?? ??????, ?? > ???????????? ??????? ????, ???? ?????? ??????????. ? ???... ??????? > ?????????????, ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ???????, ???? ????? ???????? ? > ??? ??????? ??????? ??????? ???? ??? ???????, ???????????? ??? ????? > ???? ??????? ? ??? ???? ??????, ?? ????????????. ?????? 50-???????? > ??????? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ? ??? ????? ??????????, ?? > ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ??????, > ???? "?????? ???? ?????? ??????". ?????? ?? ???? - ??????? ???????, > ???????????? ???, ?????? ??????? ?????? ?????, ?? ?????? ?????. ?? ? > ???? ?????? ?? ??????? ? ?????? ????? ? ????? ??????, ?? ????? ??? > ??????????? ? ???? ????????, ?????????? ??. ?????? ????? ?? ??????? > ?????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ??????, ????? ??????, ???? ?????. > ?????????? ?????, ????? ???????, ???? ?? ????? ??????????. ????????? > ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ???????? ?? ??????????, ?????? ?????. "??? > ?????? ? ???? ??????", ?? ???? ???? ??? ? ??????? ? ????, ?????? > ??????. ???? ?????? ????-???? ?????, ?? ??????? ? ?????? ????????????? > ???????? ???????. ??????????? ????? "? ??????? 100500 ?????????", ?? > ??????? ?? ????????, ??? ????? ?????? ?????????? ????????. > > ???-?? ???. ???????! > > 09.06.2019 20:46, Volodymyr Litovka ?????: >> ??????, >> >> ???? ?????? ?????????? ????????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ?????????? ?? 50 >> ?????? (?.?. ????). ???? ???????? ????? ????????????? ?? 200 ??????? >> ? ?? 2000 ??????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? :) >> ????? ?????????? ?????????? ??????? ????????? >> >> ? ??? - ? ??????? UTP ??? ?? ????? :) >> > -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(?????? ????? ????? > ??????). ????? ???? ???????? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??? ? ????? ?????? > > +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ > | | | | | | | | | | | | > +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ > ^ + ^ > | | | > +------+-----------------v------------------+------+ > ?/? ????? > > > On 6/9/19 9:43 PM, Alexandr Baryshnyev wrote: > > ??????, > > ?? ? ???? ??????, 50? ?? ?????, ???? ????????????? ????? ?????????? - > ??????????????? ?????? ??? ?????. ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ?? ??????, ?? > ???????????? ??????? ????, ???? ?????? ??????????. ? ???... ??????? > ?????????????, ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ???????, ???? ????? ???????? ? ??? > ??????? ??????? ??????? ???? ??? ???????, ???????????? ??? ????? ???? > ??????? ? ??? ???? ??????, ?? ????????????. ?????? 50-???????? ??????? > ??????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ? ??? ????? ??????????, ?? ???? ?????? ?? > ?????? ?????? ???????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ??????, ???? "?????? ???? > ?????? ??????". ?????? ?? ???? - ??????? ???????, ???????????? ???, ?????? > ??????? ?????? ?????, ?? ?????? ?????. ?? ? ???? ?????? ?? ??????? ? ?????? > ????? ? ????? ??????, ?? ????? ??? ??????????? ? ???? ????????, ?????????? > ??. ?????? ????? ?? ??????? ?????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ??????, ????? ??????, > ???? ?????. > ?????????? ?????, ????? ???????, ???? ?? ????? ??????????. ????????? > ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ???????? ?? ??????????, ?????? ?????. "??? ?????? ? > ???? ??????", ?? ???? ???? ??? ? ??????? ? ????, ?????? ??????. ???? ?????? > ????-???? ?????, ?? ??????? ? ?????? ????????????? ???????? ???????. > ??????????? ????? "? ??????? 100500 ?????????", ?? ??????? ?? ????????, ??? > ????? ?????? ?????????? ????????. > > ???-?? ???. ???????! > > 09.06.2019 20:46, Volodymyr Litovka ?????: > > ??????, > > ???? ?????? ?????????? ????????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ?????????? ?? 50 ?????? > (?.?. ????). ???? ???????? ????? ????????????? ?? 200 ??????? ? ?? 2000 > ??????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? :) ????? ?????????? > ?????????? ??????? ????????? > > ? ??? - ? ??????? UTP ??? ?? ????? :) > > > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doka at xlit.one Mon Jun 10 09:57:50 2019 From: doka at xlit.one (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 09:57:50 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+0YAg0LTQu9GPIG91dGRv?= =?utf-8?q?or_cabling?= In-Reply-To: References: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> <2c1e7b90-8832-8b06-ead5-b58660d450d4@xlit.one> Message-ID: ??, ??? ????? ???????? ??? ???? ?????????? ? ????????????????? :) On 6/10/19 9:37 AM, VASYL MELNYK wrote: > ? ??? ? ??????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? ????????? ? ?????? - ????? > ??????, ? ?? ????? ??-???? ?????. ????????? ?? 100 ???????? ??????, ?? > ????? ? ???? ?????? ????????. > > > ??, 10 ???. 2019 ?. ? 09:26, Volodymyr Litovka : > > ??????, > > ??????? ?? ?????????, ? ????????????? ??? ????. > > ??? ?? ????? ???? ????????? ??????????????? ??????? ????? ????? > 1,5 ??????, ????????? ??????? ?? ??????????????? ?????? 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(?.?. ????). ???? ???????? ????? >>>> ????????????? ?? 200 ??????? ? ?? 2000 ??????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? :) ????? >>>> ?????????? ?????????? ??????? ????????? >>>> >>>> ? ??? - ? ??????? UTP ??? ?? ????? :) >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Volodymyr Litovka >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -- Best regards, Alexandr B. Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From stesin at gmail.com Tue Jun 11 17:06:13 2019 From: stesin at gmail.com (Stesin) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:06:13 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+0YAg0LTQu9GPIG91dGRv?= =?utf-8?q?or_cabling?= In-Reply-To: References: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> <2c1e7b90-8832-8b06-ead5-b58660d450d4@xlit.one> Message-ID: ????? ?? ??????. ?????? (???????, ? ???????????? ? ???? ??? ?????? SFP) ???????????? ??????? ??????? ???????. On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 09:38, VASYL MELNYK wrote: > > ? ??? ? ??????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? ????????? ? ?????? - ????? ??????, ? ?? ????? ??-???? ?????. ????????? ?? 100 ???????? ??????, ?? ????? ? ???? ?????? ????????. > > > ??, 10 ???. 2019 ?. ? 09:26, Volodymyr Litovka : >> >> ??????, >> >> ??????? ?? ?????????, ? ????????????? ??? ????. >> >> ??? ?? ????? ???? ????????? ??????????????? ??????? ????? ????? 1,5 ??????, ????????? ??????? ?? ??????????????? ?????? (?????? ????? ????? ??????). ????? ???? ???????? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??? ? ????? ?????? >> >> +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ >> | | | | | | | | | | | | >> +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ >> ^ + ^ >> | | | >> +------+-----------------v------------------+------+ >> ?/? ????? >> >> >> On 6/9/19 9:43 PM, Alexandr Baryshnyev wrote: >> >> ??????, >> >> ?? ? ???? ??????, 50? ?? ?????, ???? ????????????? ????? ?????????? - ??????????????? ?????? ??? ?????. ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ?? ??????, ?? ???????????? ??????? ????, ???? ?????? ??????????. ? ???... ??????? ?????????????, ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ???????, ???? ????? ???????? ? ??? ??????? ??????? ??????? ???? ??? ???????, ???????????? ??? ????? ???? ??????? ? ??? ???? ??????, ?? ????????????. ?????? 50-???????? ??????? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ? ??? ????? ??????????, ?? ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ??????, ???? 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"Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >>> >>> ??? _______________________________________________ >>> ??? uanog mailing list >>> ??? uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>> ??? https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> uanog mailing list >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> >> -- >> Volodymyr Litovka >> ?? "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> > -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison From basil at vpm.net.ua Wed Jun 12 10:07:27 2019 From: basil at vpm.net.ua (VASYL MELNYK) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 10:07:27 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+0YAg0LTQu9GPIG91dGRv?= =?utf-8?q?or_cabling?= In-Reply-To: <5b6f80d7-c1f5-b5eb-11dd-6eb694a1fe0c@xlit.one> References: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> <2c1e7b90-8832-8b06-ead5-b58660d450d4@xlit.one> <2300756d-e170-c431-19f7-f6852877e180@abbon.net> <5b6f80d7-c1f5-b5eb-11dd-6eb694a1fe0c@xlit.one> Message-ID: ??, 12 ???. 2019 ?. ? 08:39, Volodymyr Litovka : > ? ?????, ??????? :) > > ? ????-?? ??? ? ????, ??? ???? ?????? ????? $3-5, ? ??????????????? - ?? > $50-60, ? ??? ????????? ?? ???? ? ??????? :) > > ??? ????? ????? ???? ?? ???????? ?????? ??????????? - ?? ?????? :)))) > ???? ??????? ??????????, ? ???????? ??????????? ??????. ?? ? ???????? ????? ?? ???????????, ??????? ??? ?????, ? ??????????? ??? ???????. ?????? ??????????? ??????? - ???? ???-?? ? ??????, ?????? ????? ?????? ????? ????. > > On 6/10/19 10:51 AM, Alexandr Baryshnyev wrote: > > ?? ? ????? ? 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Volodymyr Litovka > >>>"Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>uanog mailing list > >>>uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >>>https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > >>> > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>uanog mailing list > >>>uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >>>https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > >> > >>-- > >>Volodymyr Litovka > >>"Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>uanog mailing list > >>uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >>https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > >> > > > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog From violent at death.kiev.ua Wed Jun 12 11:33:46 2019 From: violent at death.kiev.ua (Igor Grabin) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 11:33:46 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?koi8-r?b?y8/NzdXUwdTP0iDEzNEgb3V0ZG9vciBjYWJsaW5n?= In-Reply-To: <5b6f80d7-c1f5-b5eb-11dd-6eb694a1fe0c@xlit.one> References: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> <2c1e7b90-8832-8b06-ead5-b58660d450d4@xlit.one> <2300756d-e170-c431-19f7-f6852877e180@abbon.net> <5b6f80d7-c1f5-b5eb-11dd-6eb694a1fe0c@xlit.one> Message-ID: <20190612083346.GA1785@death.kiev.ua> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 08:38:18AM +0300, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > ? ????-?? ??? ? ????, ??? ???? ?????? ????? $3-5, ? ??????????????? - ?? > $50-60, ? ??? ????????? ?? ???? ? ??????? :) > ??? ????? ????? ???? ?? ???????? ?????? ??????????? - ?? ?????? :)))) - ???????, ?????? ?????????, ??? ?????? ???????? ?????? ???????, ?? ????. - ?? ??????????? ???????????? ??????????? ???????????? sfp. ?????????? ?????. ?? ????? ??????? ?? ?????? ?????????? ???????? ?? ?? ????????? ??????? ? ???????? ???????????. - ? ?? ????? ?????? ?/? ??????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? + ?????? ???????????? sfp. mbr, -- Igor "CacoDem0n" Grabin From doka at xlit.one Wed Jun 12 11:41:42 2019 From: doka at xlit.one (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 11:41:42 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+0YAg0LTQu9GPIG91dGRv?= =?utf-8?q?or_cabling?= In-Reply-To: References: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> <2c1e7b90-8832-8b06-ead5-b58660d450d4@xlit.one> <2300756d-e170-c431-19f7-f6852877e180@abbon.net> <5b6f80d7-c1f5-b5eb-11dd-6eb694a1fe0c@xlit.one> Message-ID: ?? ???????? ? ???, ??? ??????? ? ???? ????? ????????????? ??? ???? SFP-????? ? ??? ??? - ? ????. ????? ??? ?? hotline - ??? ????????????? 5x100 ??????????? ?????????? ?? 150 ???????, ? ????????????? ? SFP-?????? - ? 2000+ ??????? ???? ?????????? SFP (400 ???????) ? ? ?????? ???? ????????? ???-?? ? ?????????? NxSFP. ????? ???????, ?????? ????????: 1) ?? ???????: RB750Gr3 (1400 ???) 2?? ????????? ???????????? (400 ???) 4?? ??????? (800 ???) ?????: 2600 ??????? 2) "native" fiber RB750Gr3 (1400 ???) 3 ??????????? ? ?????????? SFP (???? ? ?????, ???? - ?????????, ???? https://ntema.com.ua/product/ps118gfr) 3x2160=6500 4 SFP - 1600 ??????? ?????: 9500 ??????? (NOTE: ????? ??? ???????? ?????????? ??????????? ?? ???????? :) ?? ???? ????? ???????????? ? ??????? ??????? ????????, ?????, ????? ??????? 34 (???????? ??????) ??????????????? ( (9500-2600)/200 ). ??, ?????? ???????? - ??? ????? ?? ?????, ??? ??? ???????????? ??????? ???????????? ?? ??????? ???????? :) ????? ????????? ??????? ???? ??????? ? ???????. On 6/12/19 10:07 AM, VASYL MELNYK wrote: > > > ??, 12 ???. 2019 ?. ? 08:39, Volodymyr Litovka : > > ? ?????, ??????? :) > > ? ????-?? ??? ? ????, ??? ???? ?????? ????? $3-5, ? > ??????????????? - ?? > $50-60, ? ??? ????????? ?? ???? ? ??????? :) > > ??? ????? ????? ???? ?? ???????? ?????? ??????????? - ?? ?????? :)))) > > > ???? ??????? ??????????, ? ???????? ??????????? ??????. ?? ? ???????? > ????? ?? ???????????, ??????? ??? ?????, ? ??????????? ??? ???????. > ?????? ??????????? ??????? - ???? ???-?? ? ??????, ?????? ????? ?????? > ????? ????. > > > On 6/10/19 10:51 AM, Alexandr Baryshnyev wrote: > > ?? ? ????? ? 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SFP ???????. ??????????? > ?????????? ? > > ??????????? ?????? ???????? ?????, ???? ????? ????????????. ????? > > ??????????? ????? ? ????? ? ????? ????? ???????? ?????, ????? > > ?????????? ?????? ?? ?????. ??? ????????? ?????. ???, ????????, > > ????????: https://mikrotik.com/product/RB260GS - ??????, ?? ???? > > ???-???????????. ?? ??? ?/? ???-??????, ??? ??? ?????????? ???. > ?????? > > SFP (????? ???? ?????????? ? ??????? ??????? ???? ????????????) > ???? > > ????? ?/?, ?? ????? ?????????? ?? ??? ??????? ??????. > > > > 10.06.2019 9:57, Volodymyr Litovka ?????: > >> ??, ??? ????? ???????? ??? ???? ?????????? ? ????????????????? :) > >> > >> On 6/10/19 9:37 AM, VASYL MELNYK wrote: > >>> ? ??? ? ??????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? ????????? ? ?????? - > ????? > >>> ??????, ? ?? ????? ??-???? ?????. ????????? ?? 100 ???????? > ??????, > >>> ?? ????? ? ???? ?????? ????????. > >>> > >>> > >>> ??, 10 ???. 2019 ?. ? 09:26, Volodymyr Litovka : > >>> > >>> ??? ??????, > >>> > >>> ??? ??????? ?? ?????????, ? ????????????? ??? ????. > >>> > >>> ??? ??? ?? ????? ???? ????????? ??????????????? ??????? ????? > ????? > >>> 1,5 ??????, ????????? ??????? ?? ??????????????? > >>> ??? ?????? 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On 6/9/19 9:43 PM, Alexandr Baryshnyev wrote: > >>>> ??? ??????, > >>>> > >>>> ??? ?? ? ???? ??????, 50? ?? ?????, ???? ????????????? ????? > >>>> ?????????? - ??????????????? ?????? ??? ?????. ???? > >>>> ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ?? ??????, ?? ???????????? ??????? > ????, ???? > >>>> ?????? ??????????. ? ???... ??????? > >>>> ??? ?????????????, ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ???????, ???? ????? > >>>> ???????? ? ??? ??????? ??????? ??????? ???? ??? > >>>> ??? ???????, ???????????? ??? ????? ???? ??????? ? ??? ???? > ??????, > >>>> ?? ????????????. ?????? 50-???????? ??????? > >>>> ??? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ? ??? ????? ??????????, ?? > >>>> ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??????? > >>>> ??? ???????? ??????? ??????, ???? 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"Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas > Edison > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> ??? uanog mailing list > >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > > >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> uanog mailing list > >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > >> > >> -- > >> Volodymyr Litovka > >> ?? "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> uanog mailing list > >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > >> > > > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > ? ?"Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doka at xlit.one Wed Jun 12 11:43:36 2019 From: doka at xlit.one (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 11:43:36 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+0YAg0LTQu9GPIG91dGRv?= =?utf-8?q?or_cabling?= In-Reply-To: <20190612083346.GA1785@death.kiev.ua> References: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> <2c1e7b90-8832-8b06-ead5-b58660d450d4@xlit.one> <2300756d-e170-c431-19f7-f6852877e180@abbon.net> <5b6f80d7-c1f5-b5eb-11dd-6eb694a1fe0c@xlit.one> <20190612083346.GA1785@death.kiev.ua> Message-ID: ???, ?? ???? ??? ???????????? ??????? ????? :) On 6/12/19 11:33 AM, Igor Grabin wrote: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 08:38:18AM +0300, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: >> ? ????-?? ??? ? ????, ??? ???? ?????? ????? $3-5, ? ??????????????? - ?? >> $50-60, ? ??? ????????? ?? ???? ? ??????? :) >> ??? ????? ????? ???? ?? ???????? ?????? ??????????? - ?? ?????? :)))) > - ???????, ?????? ?????????, ??? ?????? ???????? ?????? ???????, ?? ????. > - ?? ??????????? ???????????? ??????????? ???????????? sfp. ?????????? ?????. ?? ????? ??????? ?? > ?????? ?????????? ???????? ?? ?? ????????? ??????? ? ???????? ???????????. > - ? ?? ????? ?????? ?/? ??????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? + ?????? ???????????? sfp. > > mbr, -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison From violent at death.kiev.ua Wed Jun 12 11:53:06 2019 From: violent at death.kiev.ua (Igor Grabin) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 11:53:06 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?koi8-r?b?y8/NzdXUwdTP0iDEzNEgb3V0ZG9vciBjYWJsaW5n?= In-Reply-To: References: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> <2c1e7b90-8832-8b06-ead5-b58660d450d4@xlit.one> <2300756d-e170-c431-19f7-f6852877e180@abbon.net> <5b6f80d7-c1f5-b5eb-11dd-6eb694a1fe0c@xlit.one> <20190612083346.GA1785@death.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <20190612085306.GB1785@death.kiev.ua> On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:43:36AM +0300, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > ???, ?? ???? ??? ???????????? ??????? ????? :) ? ???????? ????? ???????? ???? ???????? ??????????? - ??? ???? ??? ?? 12 ?? 48 ?????. ??? ?? ??????? ????, ??? ? ?? ????? ?? ?????. mbr, -- Igor "CacoDem0n" Grabin From doka at xlit.one Wed Jun 12 12:10:27 2019 From: doka at xlit.one (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 12:10:27 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+0YAg0LTQu9GPIG91dGRv?= =?utf-8?q?or_cabling?= In-Reply-To: <20190612085306.GB1785@death.kiev.ua> References: <0522a16e-5b3b-81aa-70fb-fa7aebd82f12@xlit.one> <2c1e7b90-8832-8b06-ead5-b58660d450d4@xlit.one> <2300756d-e170-c431-19f7-f6852877e180@abbon.net> <5b6f80d7-c1f5-b5eb-11dd-6eb694a1fe0c@xlit.one> <20190612083346.GA1785@death.kiev.ua> <20190612085306.GB1785@death.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <9aa51726-5bf4-ff17-8e2d-690e3a53c18e@xlit.one> ?? ??????????? ????, ???????????????? ? ?????????????????? ?????? ???-?? ????????? ???????? :) ?/?-???? ????? ????? ?? ?????????????????? 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On 6/12/19 11:53 AM, Igor Grabin wrote: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:43:36AM +0300, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: >> ???, ?? ???? ??? ???????????? ??????? ????? :) > ? ???????? ????? ???????? ???? ???????? ??????????? - ??? ???? ??? ?? 12 ?? 48 ?????. ??? ?? > ??????? ????, ??? ? ?? ????? ?? ?????. > > mbr, -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison From edigarov at qarea.com Fri Jun 14 15:13:34 2019 From: edigarov at qarea.com (Gregory Edigarov) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:13:34 +0300 Subject: [uanog] nanog Message-ID: ???? ??????. ? ??? ?? ??? ????? ???? ???????? ??? ??????????? ? nanog meetings. ? ?????? ???????????? ???-??? ???????? ? ??????, ? ????. ??? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ??????, ??? ????? ??? ? ? ????? ?????? ???????. From edigarov at qarea.com Fri Jun 14 15:21:07 2019 From: edigarov at qarea.com (Gregory Edigarov) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 15:21:07 +0300 Subject: [uanog] nanog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?????? ???? ????? ??, ??? ????? On 14.06.19 15:13, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > ???? ??????. > > ? ??? ?? ??? ????? ???? ???????? ??? ??????????? ? nanog meetings. ? > ?????? ???????????? ???-??? ???????? ? ??????, ? ????. > > ??? ????? ??? ?? ?????? ??????, ??? ????? ??? ? ? ????? ?????? > > ???????. > > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog From alex at euro.net.ua Mon Jun 24 13:52:57 2019 From: alex at euro.net.ua (Alexander V Soroka) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:52:57 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?cp1251?b?UGF5UGFsIOIg0+rw4Ojt5T8=?= Message-ID: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> ?????? ????! ?????? ?? ??????? - ? ??? ????? ??? ??? "???????? ??????" - ???? ?? ???? ??????? ??, ??????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????, ? ?????? ???... ?.?. ???????? ?? ???-?? ????????? ????, "???-?? ??? ????????", ? ??? ??? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ???? ??? ? ????? "?? ?????" 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"? ??????? ???????" :-) ????? ???? ?????????. ??????? -- Best regards, Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ AS106-RIPE mailto:alex at euro.net.ua From abb at abbon.net Mon Jun 24 14:48:53 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:48:53 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?UGF5UGFsINCyINCj0LrRgNCw0LjQvdC1Pw==?= In-Reply-To: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> References: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: <468723c3-62af-649a-de97-57089b7cae70@abbon.net> ?????. ???????? - ?????. ??? ????? ???????, ??? ?????????? ??????? ???? ??????????? ?????? ???????, ????????? ??????? - ???. ???????????? ??????? ??????????? ????? - ??? ??????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ???????. ? ??? ?? ???? ????????? ??????? ???????? ? ???????. ???-?? ??? ??? ??????, ?? ???????????????? ??????? ?? ????????? ?? ???????? ???????? ? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ????? ????? ??????... ????? ??????? ???????? :). ?? ? ?????????? - ??? ??? ?????, ???? ?????? ????, ?? ???? ???? ??????? ? ????????? ?????????? ?????. ??? ????? ?? ?????, ????? ?? ?????, ????????? ??????? ?????????. ????? ????? ????????? ??????, ????????, ???????? ? ???????? ????? ? ??????????? ????????????? ???????? ??? ?? - ??? ?? ? ?? ??? ????????????? ?????. ???-?? ???. 24.06.2019 13:52, Alexander V Soroka ?????: > ?????? ????! > > ?????? ?? ??????? - ? ??? ????? ??? ??? "???????? ??????" - ???? ?? > ???? ??????? ??, ??????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????, ? ?????? ???... > ?.?. ???????? ?? ???-?? ????????? ????, "???-?? ??? ????????", ? ??? > ??? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ???? ??? ? ????? "?? ?????" > (????????) ??????, ???????? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ? ????????, > ??? ??? ?? ????????. > > ? ???? ? > > ?????? ?????: ? ???-?? ???????????? ????? ????? ? ???????? ????? ? ??? > "?? ????? ???????" ????????? ?????? ??? ??????? ? > > ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ?????? - ??? ???????? - ? ????? ???? > ???????, ? ??? "? ??????? ???????" :-) ????? ???? ?????????. > > ??????? > > -- Best regards, Alexandr B. Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From edigarov at qarea.com Mon Jun 24 14:56:33 2019 From: edigarov at qarea.com (Gregory Edigarov) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:56:33 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?UGF5UGFsINCyINCj0LrRgNCw0LjQvdC1Pw==?= In-Reply-To: <468723c3-62af-649a-de97-57089b7cae70@abbon.net> References: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> <468723c3-62af-649a-de97-57089b7cae70@abbon.net> Message-ID: <08501a61-1d7e-9bfe-0127-55f7cf6ef291@qarea.com> ??, ??? ??????? - ?????????? ????????? ?? ??????, https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/en/buy-bitcoin-paypal/ ????? ??????? ???????? ? ?????? ??? ??? ??????. On 24.06.19 14:48, Alexandr Baryshnyev wrote: > ?????. > > ???????? - ?????. ??? ????? ???????, ??? ?????????? ??????? ???? > ??????????? ?????? ???????, ????????? ??????? - ???. ???????????? > ??????? ??????????? ????? - ??? ??????? ??????? ?? ??????????? > ???????. ? ??? ?? ???? ????????? ??????? ???????? ? ???????. ???-?? > ??? ??? ??????, ?? ???????????????? ??????? ?? ????????? ?? ???????? > ???????? ? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ????? ????? ??????... ????? > ??????? ???????? :). > > ?? ? ?????????? - ??? ??? ?????, ???? ?????? ????, ?? ???? ???? > ??????? ? ????????? ?????????? ?????. ??? ????? ?? ?????, ????? ?? > ?????, ????????? ??????? ?????????. ????? ????? ????????? ??????, > ????????, ???????? ? ???????? ????? ? ??????????? ????????????? > ???????? ??? ?? - ??? ?? ? ?? ??? ????????????? ?????. ???-?? ???. > > 24.06.2019 13:52, Alexander V Soroka ?????: >> ??????? ????! >> >> ??????? ??? ???????? - ? ??? ????? ??? ??? "???????? ??????" - ???? ?? >> ???? ??????? ??, ??????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????, ? ?????? ???... >> ?.?.? ????????? ?? ???-?? ????????? ????, "???-?? ??? ????????", ? ??? >> ??? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ???? ??? ? ????? "?? ?????" >> (????????)? ??????,? ???????? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ? ????????, >> ??? ??? ?? ????????. >> >> ? ???? ? >> >> ?????? ?????: ? ???-?? ???????????? ????? ????? ? ???????? ????? ? ??? >> "?? ????? ???????" ????????? ?????? ??? ??????? ? >> >> ??????? ???????? ??? ???????? ??????? -? ???? ????????? - ? ????? ???? >> ???????, ? ??? "? ??????? ???????" :-) ????? ???? ?????????. >> >> ??????? >> >> > From maxtul at netassist.kiev.ua Mon Jun 24 17:35:33 2019 From: maxtul at netassist.kiev.ua (Max Tulyev) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:35:33 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?UGF5UGFsINCyINCj0LrRgNCw0LjQvdC1Pw==?= In-Reply-To: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> References: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: ??? ????? ???????? ? ????????? ???????? "Paypal fraud" (? ???, ??? ????? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ? ??? ?? ?????? ?????????), ? ?????-????? ?????????? ? ???, ??? ? ??? ?? ????? ??????. 24.06.19 13:52, Alexander V Soroka ????: > ?????? ????! > > ?????? ?? ??????? - ? ??? ????? ??? ??? "???????? ??????" - ???? ?? > ???? ??????? ??, ??????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????, ? ?????? ???... > ?.?. ???????? ?? ???-?? ????????? ????, "???-?? ??? ????????", ? ??? > ??? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ???? ??? ? ????? "?? ?????" > (????????) ??????, ???????? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ? ????????, > ??? ??? ?? ????????. > > ? ???? ? > > ?????? ?????: ? ???-?? ???????????? ????? ????? ? ???????? ????? ? ??? > "?? ????? ???????" ????????? ?????? ??? ??????? ? > > ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ?????? - ??? ???????? - ? ????? ???? > ???????, ? ??? "? ??????? ???????" :-) ????? ???? ?????????. > > ??????? > > From sm at netartgroup.com Mon Jun 24 17:35:02 2019 From: sm at netartgroup.com (Sergey Myasoedov) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:35:02 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?cp1251?b?UGF5UGFsIOIg0+rw4Ojt5T8=?= In-Reply-To: References: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: <1846540810.20190624163502@kaa.ru> ??????? ??????, ??????? ?? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?????????. ?? ??????, ??? ????? ??? ?????? ????? ? ?????????. -- Sergey Myasoedov Monday, June 24, 2019, 16:35:33, you wrote: MT> ??? ????? ???????? ? ????????? ???????? "Paypal fraud" (? ???, ??? ????? MT> ?? ????? ???? ?????? ? ??? ?? ?????? ?????????), ? ?????-????? MT> ?????????? ? ???, ??? ? ??? ?? ????? ??????. MT> 24.06.19 13:52, Alexander V Soroka ????: >> ?????? ????! >> >> ?????? ?? ??????? - ? ??? ????? ??? ??? "???????? ??????" - ???? ?? >> ???? ??????? ??, ??????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????, ? ?????? ???... >> ?.?. ???????? ?? ???-?? ????????? ????, "???-?? ??? ????????", ? ??? >> ??? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ???? ??? ? ????? "?? ?????" >> (????????) ??????, ???????? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ? ????????, >> ??? ??? ?? ????????. >> >> ? ???? ? >> >> ?????? ?????: ? ???-?? ???????????? ????? ????? ? ???????? ????? ? ??? >> "?? ????? ???????" ????????? ?????? ??? ??????? ? >> >> ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ?????? - ??? ???????? - ? ????? ???? >> ???????, ? ??? "? ??????? ???????" :-) ????? ???? ?????????. >> >> ??????? >> From abb at abbon.net Mon Jun 24 18:04:11 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:04:11 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?UGF5UGFsINCyINCj0LrRgNCw0LjQvdC1Pw==?= In-Reply-To: References: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: <1ffba552-1a22-8cb2-928d-57fbae51e5a6@abbon.net> 24.06.2019 17:35, Max Tulyev ?????: > ??? ????? ???????? ? ????????? ???????? "Paypal fraud" (? ???, ??? ????? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ? ??? ?? ?????? > ?????????), ? ?????-????? ?????????? ? ???, ??? ? ??? ?? ????? ??????. ??, ?? ?????. ??? ???????? ?? ????? ?????? ?????. ?????? ? ??????? ????? ????? ????????, ? ????? ?????? ???????????, ??? ????? ? ????????. ?????? ? ???? ???????????, ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ????????? ???????. ????? ????????, ??? ???????? EasyPay ? ??????? ????????? ????????. > 24.06.19 13:52, Alexander V Soroka ????: >> ??????? ????! >> >> ??????? ??? ???????? - ? ??? ????? ??? ??? "???????? ??????" - ???? ?? >> ???? ??????? ??, ??????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????, ? ?????? ???... >> ?.?.? ????????? ?? ???-?? ????????? ????, "???-?? ??? ????????", ? ??? >> ??? ????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ???? ??? ? ????? "?? ?????" >> (????????)? ??????,? ???????? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ? ????????, >> ??? ??? ?? ????????. >> >> ? ???? ? ??? ?? ??? ????????. ????? ?????? ?? ????? ???????? ?? ??? ???? ? ??????, ???? ? ??? ???????????? ?????, ??? ? ?????????. ????? ?? ??????? ????????, ?? ?????? ??????????? ? ????? ????? ? ???????? ????? ?? ???? ?????????? ??????? ? ??????. ?? ??? ???? ??? ?? ???????? ??????. ?? ??? ???????? ? ????????? ??????????? ?? ???? ??????????. ?? ????? ????? ?????? 0.00. >> ?????? ?????: ? ???-?? ???????????? ????? ????? ? ???????? ????? ? ??? >> "?? ????? ???????" ????????? ?????? ??? ??????? ? ?? ??????? ??????. ???? ?? ???????? ???????, ?? ?????? ? ??? ?? ?????????, ? ??????? ? ????? ?????, ??? >> ??????? ???????? ??? ???????? ??????? -? ???? ????????? - ? ????? ???? >> ???????, ? ??? "? ??????? ???????" :-) ????? ???? ?????????. ??? ???? ??????? ??? ?? ??????? ??????? ??? ?????-?? ??????. ?? ????? ?????? 0. >> ??????? -- Best regards, Alexandr B. Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From maxtul at netassist.kiev.ua Mon Jun 24 18:52:39 2019 From: maxtul at netassist.kiev.ua (Max Tulyev) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:52:39 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?UGF5UGFsINCyINCj0LrRgNCw0LjQvdC1Pw==?= In-Reply-To: <1ffba552-1a22-8cb2-928d-57fbae51e5a6@abbon.net> References: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> <1ffba552-1a22-8cb2-928d-57fbae51e5a6@abbon.net> Message-ID: <0a1b1f63-e8a5-c5cb-4cce-91ab1fca6aa2@netassist.kiev.ua> 24.06.19 18:04, Alexandr Baryshnyev ????: > 24.06.2019 17:35, Max Tulyev ?????: >> ??? ????? ???????? ? ????????? ???????? "Paypal fraud" (? ???, ??? >> ????? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ? ??? ?? ?????? ?????????), ? ?????-????? >> ?????????? ? ???, ??? ? ??? ?? ????? ??????. > > ??, ?? ?????. ??? ???????? ?? ????? ?????? ?????. ?????? ? ??????? ????? > ????? ????????, ? ????? ?????? ???????????, ??? ????? ? ????????. ?????? > ? ???? ???????????, ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ????????? ???????. ????? > ????????, ??? ???????? EasyPay ? ??????? ????????? ????????. ??????? ?? ????, ??? ????? ??????. ? ?????? ?? ? ?????????, ??????? ? ???? ????????????? ??????, ? ? ???, ??? ??? ????????????? ???? ?????????. ? ?????? ? ? ?????? ????, ??? ???????? ????? "???????" - ?????? ??????? ??%%???? ??????, ???? ?????????. ??? ????? ?? ????????????, ???? ?? ??????? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ????. From abb at abbon.net Mon Jun 24 19:34:08 2019 From: abb at abbon.net (Alexandr Baryshnyev) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 19:34:08 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?UGF5UGFsINCyINCj0LrRgNCw0LjQvdC1Pw==?= In-Reply-To: <0a1b1f63-e8a5-c5cb-4cce-91ab1fca6aa2@netassist.kiev.ua> References: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> <1ffba552-1a22-8cb2-928d-57fbae51e5a6@abbon.net> <0a1b1f63-e8a5-c5cb-4cce-91ab1fca6aa2@netassist.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <36a5d9c2-92fd-e911-f62b-ba7a605cd509@abbon.net> ??? ?????? ??????? ?? ????? ????. ???? ?? ?????? ???-?? ??????? ???????????????? ??? ?????? ? ????????????????, ?? ?????? ???? ??????? ????? ???????? ??. ? ??? ? ???? ?????? ???? ? ??? ???????????? ??? ???? ?????? ??????? ?????? ???????? ?? ?? ??? ? ??? ?? ?? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ?????????, ?? ???????? ??????????????? ??? ?????? ??????? ???. ?? ???? ????????? ??????? ?????? ????? ? ????? ??? ??????? ?????????? ? ???????????? ??????? ?????????. ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ???????? ????????, ?? ??? ? ??? ???? ??????? ???? ??????. 24.06.2019 18:52, Max Tulyev ?????: > 24.06.19 18:04, Alexandr Baryshnyev ????: >> 24.06.2019 17:35, Max Tulyev ?????: >>> ??? ????? ???????? ? ????????? ???????? "Paypal fraud" (? ???, ??? ????? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ? ??? ?? ?????? >>> ?????????), ? ?????-????? ?????????? ? ???, ??? ? ??? ?? ????? ??????. >> >> ??, ?? ?????. ??? ???????? ?? ????? ?????? ?????. ?????? ? ??????? ????? ????? ????????, ? ????? ?????? ???????????, >> ??? ????? ? ????????. ?????? ? ???? ???????????, ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ????????? ???????. ????? ????????, ??? >> ???????? EasyPay ? ??????? ????????? ????????. > > ??????? ?? ????, ??? ????? ??????. > > ? ?????? ?? ? ?????????, ??????? ? ???? ????????????? ??????, ? ? ???, ??? ??? ????????????? ???? ?????????. > > ? ?????? ? ? ?????? ????, ??? ???????? ????? "???????" - ?????? ??????? ??%%???? ??????, ???? ?????????. ??? ????? ?? > ????????????, ???? ?? ??????? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ????. -- Best regards, Alexandr B. Baryshnyev, e-mail: abb at abbon.net From sia at uanog.sink.nest.org Tue Jun 25 02:23:52 2019 From: sia at uanog.sink.nest.org (Igor Sviridov) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 16:23:52 -0700 Subject: [uanog] =?koi8-r?b?UGF5UGFsINcg9cvSwcnOxT8=?= In-Reply-To: <0a1b1f63-e8a5-c5cb-4cce-91ab1fca6aa2@netassist.kiev.ua> References: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> <1ffba552-1a22-8cb2-928d-57fbae51e5a6@abbon.net> <0a1b1f63-e8a5-c5cb-4cce-91ab1fca6aa2@netassist.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <20190624232352.GD16865@rabbit.smph.nest.org> hi, On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 06:52:39PM +0300, Max Tulyev wrote: > 24.06.19 18:04, Alexandr Baryshnyev ????: > >24.06.2019 17:35, Max Tulyev ?????: > >>??? ????? ???????? ? ????????? ???????? "Paypal fraud" (? ???, ??? > >>????? ?? ????? ???? ?????? ? ??? ?? ?????? ?????????), ? ?????-????? > >>?????????? ? ???, ??? ? ??? ?? ????? ??????. > > > >??, ?? ?????. ??? ???????? ?? ????? ?????? ?????. ?????? ? ??????? ????? > >????? ????????, ? ????? ?????? ???????????, ??? ????? ? ????????. ?????? > >? ???? ???????????, ?? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ????????? ???????. ????? > >????????, ??? ???????? EasyPay ? ??????? ????????? ????????. ??????????? ????????. > ??????? ?? ????, ??? ????? ??????. > > ? ?????? ?? ? ?????????, ??????? ? ???? ????????????? ??????, ? ? ???, > ??? ??? ????????????? ???? ?????????. > > ? ?????? ? ? ?????? ????, ??? ???????? ????? "???????" - ?????? ??????? > ??%%???? ??????, ???? ?????????. ??? ????? ?? ????????????, ???? ?? > ??????? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ????. ?? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ? ???, ??? ????? ????????? ??????????????. ?? ???? ???????? ??? ??????? ????????? ????? ???????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? Paypal ?? ???????. ?? ??? ??????????? ???????? ???? ??????????? ????? ?????????? ???????, ? ??? ????????. Fraud ?????, ?????? ??????????; ?????????? ? ?????? ?????? ????????????. ????? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ??????????? ??? ?????????? ???????? (?????? ??? ok). p.s. ??????? ???????? ?????? ????????????? Paypal - ????????? ??????????. ? ?????? ?????????? ????? ACH (?????????? ???????, ???? IBAN transfer) ??????????? ?????????, ? ??????? ?? ??????? ????? ????????? ???????, ?? ???????? ???? ????. Paypal ?????? ???????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ??????????? ? ACH, ?????????? ?? ?????????, ? ???????? ??????????, ? ???? ??????? ???????? ??????????; ??? ? ???? ??????? ? 2% ? ???; ?????? ??????? ???? ? ?????? ????????? ;-) --igor From tasic at academ.kiev.ua Tue Jun 25 07:57:50 2019 From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 07:57:50 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?UGF5UGFsINCyINCj0LrRgNCw0LjQvdC1Pw==?= In-Reply-To: <20190624232352.GD16865@rabbit.smph.nest.org> References: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> <1ffba552-1a22-8cb2-928d-57fbae51e5a6@abbon.net> <0a1b1f63-e8a5-c5cb-4cce-91ab1fca6aa2@netassist.kiev.ua> <20190624232352.GD16865@rabbit.smph.nest.org> Message-ID: <860166CE-1C95-4ADE-A75A-487AE1FAAB39@academ.kiev.ua> > On Jun 25, 2019, at 02:23, Igor Sviridov wrote: > > hi, > [skip] > ?? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ? ???, ??? ????? ????????? ??????????????. > ?? ???? ???????? ??? ??????? ????????? ????? ???????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? Paypal ?? ???????. > ?? ??? ??????????? ???????? ???? ??????????? ????? ?????????? ???????, ? ??? ????????. > Fraud ?????, ?????? ??????????; ?????????? ? ?????? ?????? ????????????. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ O_O ?? ????????? ?????? ? paypal'??? :) > ????? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ??????????? ??? ?????????? ???????? (?????? ??? ok). > > p.s. ??????? ???????? ?????? ????????????? Paypal - ????????? ??????????. > ? ?????? ?????????? ????? ACH (?????????? ???????, ???? IBAN transfer) ??????????? ?????????, ? ??????? ?? ??????? ????? > ????????? ???????, ?? ???????? ???? ????. > Paypal ?????? ???????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ??????????? ? ACH, ?????????? ?? ?????????, ? ???????? ??????????, > ? ???? ??????? ???????? ??????????; ??? ? ???? ??????? ? 2% ? ???; ?????? ??????? ???? ? ?????? ????????? ;-) > > --igor > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Taras Heichenko tasic at academ.kiev.ua From sia at uanog.sink.nest.org Tue Jun 25 10:19:31 2019 From: sia at uanog.sink.nest.org (Igor Sviridov) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 00:19:31 -0700 Subject: [uanog] =?koi8-r?b?UGF5UGFsINcg9cvSwcnOxT8=?= In-Reply-To: <860166CE-1C95-4ADE-A75A-487AE1FAAB39@academ.kiev.ua> References: <1034987794.20190624135257@euro.net.ua> <1ffba552-1a22-8cb2-928d-57fbae51e5a6@abbon.net> <0a1b1f63-e8a5-c5cb-4cce-91ab1fca6aa2@netassist.kiev.ua> <20190624232352.GD16865@rabbit.smph.nest.org> <860166CE-1C95-4ADE-A75A-487AE1FAAB39@academ.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <20190625071931.GE16865@rabbit.smph.nest.org> hi, On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 07:57:50AM +0300, Taras Heichenko wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2019, at 02:23, Igor Sviridov wrote: > > [skip] > > > ?? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ? ???, ??? ????? ????????? ??????????????. > > ?? ???? ???????? ??? ??????? ????????? ????? ???????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? Paypal ?? ???????. > > ?? ??? ??????????? ???????? ???? ??????????? ????? ?????????? ???????, ? ??? ????????. > > Fraud ?????, ?????? ??????????; ?????????? ? ?????? ?????? ????????????. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > O_O ?? ????????? ?????? ? paypal'??? :) ??? ??? ????????????, ??? ? ??????????? ????? ;-) ?? ? fraud ??? ????????? ? ????? ?????? - ????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ????? (? ??????????? ???????), ????? ???????? ?????? ? ?????????? ???????? (????? ?????, ??? ??-?????? ? Paypal ??????????? ???????, ??? ? ???????? ????????? ????????, ?? ? ????????? ? Paypal-?? ????? ??? ???????). ????? ?????????? - ???? ???????? ???? ? ???????? - ??????? ????, ??? ?????????????? ?????????????, tracking ???????????? ???????? - ? ??? ? ??????? ????????... ?? ?????? ???? ??? ??? ?? ?????????, ? ??? ????????? ??? Paypal ???????. > > ????? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ??????????? ??? ?????????? ???????? (?????? ??? ok). > > > > p.s. ??????? ???????? ?????? ????????????? Paypal - ????????? ??????????. > > ? ?????? ?????????? ????? ACH (?????????? ???????, ???? IBAN transfer) ??????????? ?????????, ? ??????? ?? ??????? ????? > > ????????? ???????, ?? ???????? ???? ????. > > Paypal ?????? ???????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ??????????? ? 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