From doka at xlit.one Thu Aug 13 11:34:56 2020 From: doka at xlit.one (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 11:34:56 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LTQtdGI0LXQstGL0Lkg0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+?= =?utf-8?b?0YAgOi0p?= Message-ID: <3C5FF755-47B3-45A4-8365-CBA404BE4C09@xlit.one> ??????, ? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??????????, ??????? ?? ??????????? (1) vlan trunking, (2) lldp ? (3) ??????? ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ?????? over lldp. ?????? ????????? ?? ????????? ?????? ?? ebay? ?? ???????????? ?.3 ??????? -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From minotaur at crete.org.ua Thu Aug 13 12:36:18 2020 From: minotaur at crete.org.ua (Alexander Shikov) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:36:18 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LTQtdGI0LXQstGL0Lkg0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+?= =?utf-8?b?0YAgOi0p?= In-Reply-To: <3C5FF755-47B3-45A4-8365-CBA404BE4C09@xlit.one> References: <3C5FF755-47B3-45A4-8365-CBA404BE4C09@xlit.one> Message-ID: <20200813093618.GA88739@crete.itcons.net.ua> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:34:56 +0300, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > ??????, > > ? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??????????, ??????? ?? ??????????? (1) vlan trunking, (2) lldp ? (3) ??????? ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ?????? over lldp. > > ?????? ????????? ?? ????????? ?????? ?? ebay? ?? ???????????? ?.3 > > ??????? ??????. Extreme Networks, ????? Summit. ?? ??? ????? vendor-specific ??????????. create vlan "test_40" configure vlan test_40 tag 40 create vlan "test_41" configure vlan test_41 tag 41 create vlan "test_42" configure vlan test_42 tag 42 configure vlan test_40 add ports 1:12 tagged configure vlan test_41 add ports 1:12 tagged configure vlan test_42 add ports 1:12 tagged enable lldp ports 1:12 transmit-only configure lldp port 1:12 advertise vendor-specific dot1 vlan-name tcpdump ? ????? 1:12: 12:35:03.570111 02:04:96:27:7e:3d > 01:80:c2:00:00:0e, ethertype LLDP (0x88cc), length 190: LLDP, length 176 Chassis ID TLV (1), length 7 Subtype MAC address (4): 02:04:96:27:7e:3d 0x0000: 0402 0496 277e 3d Port ID TLV (2), length 5 Subtype Interface Name (5): 1:12 0x0000: 0531 3a31 32 Time to Live TLV (3), length 2: TTL 120s 0x0000: 0078 System Description TLV (6), length 104 ExtremeXOS (Stack) version 15.3.5.2 v1535b2-patch1-13 by release-manager on Thu Dec 15 11:08:24 EST 2016 0x0000: 4578 7472 656d 6558 4f53 2028 5374 6163 0x0010: 6b29 2076 6572 7369 6f6e 2031 352e 332e 0x0020: 352e 3220 7631 3533 3562 322d 7061 7463 0x0030: 6831 2d31 3320 6279 2072 656c 6561 7365 0x0040: 2d6d 616e 6167 6572 206f 6e20 5468 7520 0x0050: 4465 6320 3135 2031 313a 3038 3a32 3420 0x0060: 4553 5420 3230 3136 Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) VLAN name Subtype (3) vlan id (VID): 40 vlan name: test_40 0x0000: 0080 c203 0028 0774 6573 745f 3430 Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) VLAN name Subtype (3) vlan id (VID): 41 vlan name: test_41 0x0000: 0080 c203 0029 0774 6573 745f 3431 Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) VLAN name Subtype (3) vlan id (VID): 42 vlan name: test_42 0x0000: 0080 c203 002a 0774 6573 745f 3432 End TLV (0), length 0 From doka at xlit.one Thu Aug 13 12:38:32 2020 From: doka at xlit.one (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:38:32 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LTQtdGI0LXQstGL0Lkg0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+?= =?utf-8?b?0YAgOi0p?= In-Reply-To: <20200813093618.GA88739@crete.itcons.net.ua> References: <3C5FF755-47B3-45A4-8365-CBA404BE4C09@xlit.one> <20200813093618.GA88739@crete.itcons.net.ua> Message-ID: <19C445D5-C5B2-4543-84A9-3C266A5B69B9@xlit.one> ?????, ???????! ? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ????????? ????????? ??? ?????????, ?????? ?? lldpad/lldptool ???? vendor specific? :-) -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > On 13 Aug 2020, at 12:36, Alexander Shikov wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:34:56 +0300, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: >> ??????, >> >> ? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??????????, ??????? ?? ??????????? (1) vlan trunking, (2) lldp ? (3) ??????? ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ?????? over lldp. >> >> ?????? ????????? ?? ????????? ?????? ?? ebay? ?? ???????????? ?.3 >> >> ??????? > > ??????. > > Extreme Networks, ????? Summit. ?? ??? ????? vendor-specific ??????????. > > create vlan "test_40" > configure vlan test_40 tag 40 > create vlan "test_41" > configure vlan test_41 tag 41 > create vlan "test_42" > configure vlan test_42 tag 42 > configure vlan test_40 add ports 1:12 tagged > configure vlan test_41 add ports 1:12 tagged > configure vlan test_42 add ports 1:12 tagged > enable lldp ports 1:12 transmit-only > configure lldp port 1:12 advertise vendor-specific dot1 vlan-name > > > > tcpdump ? ????? 1:12: > > 12:35:03.570111 02:04:96:27:7e:3d > 01:80:c2:00:00:0e, ethertype LLDP (0x88cc), length 190: LLDP, length 176 > Chassis ID TLV (1), length 7 > Subtype MAC address (4): 02:04:96:27:7e:3d > 0x0000: 0402 0496 277e 3d > Port ID TLV (2), length 5 > Subtype Interface Name (5): 1:12 > 0x0000: 0531 3a31 32 > Time to Live TLV (3), length 2: TTL 120s > 0x0000: 0078 > System Description TLV (6), length 104 > ExtremeXOS (Stack) version 15.3.5.2 v1535b2-patch1-13 by release-manager on Thu Dec 15 11:08:24 EST 2016 > 0x0000: 4578 7472 656d 6558 4f53 2028 5374 6163 > 0x0010: 6b29 2076 6572 7369 6f6e 2031 352e 332e > 0x0020: 352e 3220 7631 3533 3562 322d 7061 7463 > 0x0030: 6831 2d31 3320 6279 2072 656c 6561 7365 > 0x0040: 2d6d 616e 6167 6572 206f 6e20 5468 7520 > 0x0050: 4465 6320 3135 2031 313a 3038 3a32 3420 > 0x0060: 4553 5420 3230 3136 > Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) > VLAN name Subtype (3) > vlan id (VID): 40 > vlan name: test_40 > 0x0000: 0080 c203 0028 0774 6573 745f 3430 > Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) > VLAN name Subtype (3) > vlan id (VID): 41 > vlan name: test_41 > 0x0000: 0080 c203 0029 0774 6573 745f 3431 > Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) > VLAN name Subtype (3) > vlan id (VID): 42 > vlan name: test_42 > 0x0000: 0080 c203 002a 0774 6573 745f 3432 > End TLV (0), length 0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From minotaur at crete.org.ua Thu Aug 13 12:52:55 2020 From: minotaur at crete.org.ua (Alexander Shikov) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 12:52:55 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LTQtdGI0LXQstGL0Lkg0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+?= =?utf-8?b?0YAgOi0p?= In-Reply-To: <19C445D5-C5B2-4543-84A9-3C266A5B69B9@xlit.one> References: <3C5FF755-47B3-45A4-8365-CBA404BE4C09@xlit.one> <20200813093618.GA88739@crete.itcons.net.ua> <19C445D5-C5B2-4543-84A9-3C266A5B69B9@xlit.one> Message-ID: <20200813095255.GA88774@crete.itcons.net.ua> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 12:38:32 +0300, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > ?????, ???????! > > ? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ????????? ????????? ??? ?????????, ?????? ?? lldpad/lldptool ???? vendor specific? :-) ??, ? ???? ?? FreeBSD lldptool ? lldpad ???. ??, ??? ????: /usr/ports/net-mgmt/lldpd /usr/ports/net-mgmt/openlldp - ?? ????? ????????????. ?? ?? ?????? ??????????? lldptool help, ???????? ??? ???-?? ????: -V [tlvid] specifies the TLV identifier The tlvid is an integer value used to identify specific LLDP TLVs. The tlvid value is the Type value for types not equal to 127 (the organizationally specific type). For organizationally specific TLVs, the tlvid is the value represented by the 3 byte OUI and 1 byte subtype - where the subtype is the lowest order byte of the tlvid. The tlvid can be entered as a numerical value (e.g. 10 or 0xa), or for supported TLVs, as a keyword. Review the lldptool help output to see the list of supported TLV keywords. > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > > On 13 Aug 2020, at 12:36, Alexander Shikov wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:34:56 +0300, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > >> ??????, > >> > >> ? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??????????, ??????? ?? ??????????? (1) vlan trunking, (2) lldp ? (3) ??????? ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ?????? over lldp. > >> > >> ?????? ????????? ?? ????????? ?????? ?? ebay? ?? ???????????? ?.3 > >> > >> ??????? > > > > ??????. > > > > Extreme Networks, ????? Summit. ?? ??? ????? vendor-specific ??????????. > > > > create vlan "test_40" > > configure vlan test_40 tag 40 > > create vlan "test_41" > > configure vlan test_41 tag 41 > > create vlan "test_42" > > configure vlan test_42 tag 42 > > configure vlan test_40 add ports 1:12 tagged > > configure vlan test_41 add ports 1:12 tagged > > configure vlan test_42 add ports 1:12 tagged > > enable lldp ports 1:12 transmit-only > > configure lldp port 1:12 advertise vendor-specific dot1 vlan-name > > > > > > > > tcpdump ? ????? 1:12: > > > > 12:35:03.570111 02:04:96:27:7e:3d > 01:80:c2:00:00:0e, ethertype LLDP (0x88cc), length 190: LLDP, length 176 > > Chassis ID TLV (1), length 7 > > Subtype MAC address (4): 02:04:96:27:7e:3d > > 0x0000: 0402 0496 277e 3d > > Port ID TLV (2), length 5 > > Subtype Interface Name (5): 1:12 > > 0x0000: 0531 3a31 32 > > Time to Live TLV (3), length 2: TTL 120s > > 0x0000: 0078 > > System Description TLV (6), length 104 > > ExtremeXOS (Stack) version 15.3.5.2 v1535b2-patch1-13 by release-manager on Thu Dec 15 11:08:24 EST 2016 > > 0x0000: 4578 7472 656d 6558 4f53 2028 5374 6163 > > 0x0010: 6b29 2076 6572 7369 6f6e 2031 352e 332e > > 0x0020: 352e 3220 7631 3533 3562 322d 7061 7463 > > 0x0030: 6831 2d31 3320 6279 2072 656c 6561 7365 > > 0x0040: 2d6d 616e 6167 6572 206f 6e20 5468 7520 > > 0x0050: 4465 6320 3135 2031 313a 3038 3a32 3420 > > 0x0060: 4553 5420 3230 3136 > > Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) > > VLAN name Subtype (3) > > vlan id (VID): 40 > > vlan name: test_40 > > 0x0000: 0080 c203 0028 0774 6573 745f 3430 > > Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) > > VLAN name Subtype (3) > > vlan id (VID): 41 > > vlan name: test_41 > > 0x0000: 0080 c203 0029 0774 6573 745f 3431 > > Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) > > VLAN name Subtype (3) > > vlan id (VID): 42 > > vlan name: test_42 > > 0x0000: 0080 c203 002a 0774 6573 745f 3432 > > End TLV (0), length 0 > From doka at xlit.one Thu Aug 13 14:17:46 2020 From: doka at xlit.one (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 14:17:46 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LTQtdGI0LXQstGL0Lkg0LrQvtC80LzRg9GC0LDRgtC+?= =?utf-8?b?0YAgOi0p?= In-Reply-To: <20200813095255.GA88774@crete.itcons.net.ua> References: <3C5FF755-47B3-45A4-8365-CBA404BE4C09@xlit.one> <20200813093618.GA88739@crete.itcons.net.ua> <19C445D5-C5B2-4543-84A9-3C266A5B69B9@xlit.one> <20200813095255.GA88774@crete.itcons.net.ua> Message-ID: <2907A029-7EC2-4D24-A539-EB4B8C9C5E24@xlit.one> ? ???? ? help?? ????????, ??? -V ???? org tldiv ?????????? ?? 127. ?? ????? ? ???, ????????? ??????????? ???????? "VLAN name Subtype?, ??????? tcpdump ????? ??? ??????? 3, ? ??? ???????? ?? ??? lldptool - ?????????. ?? ? ????? ?????? - ? ??????????? ?? ??????, ???????. -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > On 13 Aug 2020, at 12:52, Alexander Shikov wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 12:38:32 +0300, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: >> ?????, ???????! >> >> ? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ????????? ????????? ??? ?????????, ?????? ?? lldpad/lldptool ???? vendor specific? :-) > > ??, ? ???? ?? FreeBSD lldptool ? lldpad ???. > ??, ??? ????: > /usr/ports/net-mgmt/lldpd > /usr/ports/net-mgmt/openlldp > > - ?? ????? ????????????. > > ?? ?? ?????? ??????????? lldptool help, ???????? ??? ???-?? ????: > > -V [tlvid] > specifies the TLV identifier > The tlvid is an integer value used to identify specific LLDP TLVs. The tlvid value is the Type value for types not equal to 127 (the organizationally specific type). For organizationally specific TLVs, the tlvid is the value represented by the 3 byte OUI and 1 byte subtype - where the subtype is the lowest order byte of the tlvid. > The tlvid can be entered as a numerical value (e.g. 10 or 0xa), or for supported TLVs, as a keyword. Review the lldptool help output to see the list of supported TLV keywords. > >> -- >> Volodymyr Litovka >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >> >>> On 13 Aug 2020, at 12:36, Alexander Shikov wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:34:56 +0300, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: >>>> ??????, >>>> >>>> ? ??? ????? ??????? ????? ??????? ?????????? ??????????, ??????? ?? ??????????? (1) vlan trunking, (2) lldp ? (3) ??????? ?????????? ? ?????? ?? ?????? over lldp. >>>> >>>> ?????? ????????? ?? ????????? ?????? ?? ebay? ?? ???????????? ?.3 >>>> >>>> ??????? >>> >>> ??????. >>> >>> Extreme Networks, ????? Summit. ?? ??? ????? vendor-specific ??????????. >>> >>> create vlan "test_40" >>> configure vlan test_40 tag 40 >>> create vlan "test_41" >>> configure vlan test_41 tag 41 >>> create vlan "test_42" >>> configure vlan test_42 tag 42 >>> configure vlan test_40 add ports 1:12 tagged >>> configure vlan test_41 add ports 1:12 tagged >>> configure vlan test_42 add ports 1:12 tagged >>> enable lldp ports 1:12 transmit-only >>> configure lldp port 1:12 advertise vendor-specific dot1 vlan-name >>> >>> >>> >>> tcpdump ? ????? 1:12: >>> >>> 12:35:03.570111 02:04:96:27:7e:3d > 01:80:c2:00:00:0e, ethertype LLDP (0x88cc), length 190: LLDP, length 176 >>> Chassis ID TLV (1), length 7 >>> Subtype MAC address (4): 02:04:96:27:7e:3d >>> 0x0000: 0402 0496 277e 3d >>> Port ID TLV (2), length 5 >>> Subtype Interface Name (5): 1:12 >>> 0x0000: 0531 3a31 32 >>> Time to Live TLV (3), length 2: TTL 120s >>> 0x0000: 0078 >>> System Description TLV (6), length 104 >>> ExtremeXOS (Stack) version 15.3.5.2 v1535b2-patch1-13 by release-manager on Thu Dec 15 11:08:24 EST 2016 >>> 0x0000: 4578 7472 656d 6558 4f53 2028 5374 6163 >>> 0x0010: 6b29 2076 6572 7369 6f6e 2031 352e 332e >>> 0x0020: 352e 3220 7631 3533 3562 322d 7061 7463 >>> 0x0030: 6831 2d31 3320 6279 2072 656c 6561 7365 >>> 0x0040: 2d6d 616e 6167 6572 206f 6e20 5468 7520 >>> 0x0050: 4465 6320 3135 2031 313a 3038 3a32 3420 >>> 0x0060: 4553 5420 3230 3136 >>> Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) >>> VLAN name Subtype (3) >>> vlan id (VID): 40 >>> vlan name: test_40 >>> 0x0000: 0080 c203 0028 0774 6573 745f 3430 >>> Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) >>> VLAN name Subtype (3) >>> vlan id (VID): 41 >>> vlan name: test_41 >>> 0x0000: 0080 c203 0029 0774 6573 745f 3431 >>> Organization specific TLV (127), length 14: OUI Ethernet bridged (0x0080c2) >>> VLAN name Subtype (3) >>> vlan id (VID): 42 >>> vlan name: test_42 >>> 0x0000: 0080 c203 002a 0774 6573 745f 3432 >>> End TLV (0), length 0 >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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WiFi ??? ??????? ????? ??????????? ?????????????. WiFi ??????? ? ??????? ???? guest networks (?? ??????? ???????), ????????????? ??? ??????? intranet-LAN ??? ?????? ? ???????? ???? ??? ???????? ??????????? ?? ??????. ????????? ???????: ???? ???? ?????????? (?????????) HP-?????? ? OS Linux (??? ????? ?? QA) ??? ???? ???????, ?????? - ?????-?????? + ????? ?????? (????? ? ? OS Linux) ? ????????, ????????????? ?? ?????????? ????????. ????"?????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ???????????????? IAM (identity & access management) ?? ???? ?????? LDAP-like. ????? ? ???????? ????? ???? (100 ????), ??? ??? ??????? ????? VIP-??????????? ???????? ???????????? ????? ?????? ?? 4G. ???? ?? ?? ?? ????????... ?????? ????? ??????????? - ???????? ?? ????? ? ? OS Linux ?? Windows. ????? ????? ?????????? ????????? ?? ????? ?????? ??? remote ??????. ?? ???????? ?????? VPN-???????????? ?????... ????? ??? remote work ? ??????? ?????????????? OpenConnect server ??? SSL VPN (?????! ?? ?? ????? ????????????!), ??? ???????? IT-security ???????? ?????????? ??????? ?? IPSec tunnels. ??????????? ?-??? ???????? ??????? ?? ?????????????? 30 (?? ?? ??????? ???????) ????? ?? ???? ???????? ????????? (??? ????????? ???????, ??? ??? ??????????/???????????? ???????????? ??????) ?????? "????????? ????" - "???? ??????? ? ??????", ?? ??????? ?? ?????????? ???? ? ??-US ?????. ????? ??????, ????? ?? ?????? ?????????? ????? ? VLANs, ?????????? ?? ????????? ?? ?????????????, ????????? ??????????? IPSec VPN. ???? ?? ??????? ???????, ???? ??????????? ??? ????????? ? ?? ????????? ??????? - ???? ?????? ????? ???????? ???? ???? ?? ??????? SOHO-Middle Office ? ?? ?? ????? ??????? Falcon Heavy (??????????? ???? ??? ?????????? ??? "????????? ???? ? 30,000 ???" ????? ?? ???????? ??????????)? ???? ? ?? ?? ????????? Mikrotik? TP-link ? DLink? ?????. -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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D-link-? ??? > L2 ?????? ????????), ??? ?????? ??? ???? ???????? ?? ???? ? ???????? SFP+. > > ??????? ??????? ??????? ?? ?????? ????? ??????? - ????? ????? PCIe SFP+ > ???????? ???????, ??? ???? ?? ? ??????. > > ? ???? ???? ????? ?????????? Mikrotik-?? ? (?? ???? ? ??????????? > ??????????), ???? ?? ? ??????, ?? ?????? ?? ??????. > > 28.08.2020 11:11, Oleh Hrynchuk ?????: > > ??????-??????, ??????? ???. > > > > ???????????, ????-?????, ? ??????????. > > > > ???? ???????: > > > > ??????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ??????? ??????? > > ???? ????????? ????????, ??? ???? ?. > > > > ? ? ?????? ?? ? ????? ?? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? Middle Office > > solutions. > > > > ? ??? ??????? ???????, ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ???????. ? ?????? ??????? > > ?????? ??? 2-? ?? 10 ???????????. ???????? ????????? LAN-??????: ?? 16 > > ?? ?????? ???????, ? ?? 30 ?? ???????. > > ?? ??????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??? ??????? ??????????? ?????????. > > ??? ????? ? ??? ? ????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?????? > > ???????????. > > > > ??? WiFi ??? ??????? ????? ??????????? ?????????????. WiFi ??????? ? > > ??????? ???? guest networks (?? ??????? ???????), ????????????? ??? > > ??????? intranet-LAN ??? ?????? ? ???????? ???? ??? ???????? > > ??????????? ?? ??????. > > > > ????????? ???????: ???? ???? ?????????? (?????????) HP-?????? ? OS > > Linux (??? ????? ?? QA) ??? ???? ???????, ?????? - ?????-?????? + > > ????? ?????? (????? ? ? OS Linux) ? ????????, ????????????? ?? > > ?????????? ????????. > > ????"?????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ???????????????? IAM (identity & access > > management) ?? ???? ?????? LDAP-like. > > > > ????? ? ???????? ????? ???? (100 ????), ??? ??? ??????? ????? > > VIP-??????????? ???????? ???????????? ????? ?????? ?? 4G. ???? ?? ?? > > ?? ????????... > > > > ?????? ????? ??????????? - ???????? ?? ????? ? ? OS Linux ?? Windows. > > ????? ????? ?????????? ????????? ?? ????? ?????? ??? remote ??????. > > > > ?? ???????? ?????? VPN-???????????? ?????... ????? ??? remote work ? > > ??????? ?????????????? OpenConnect server ??? SSL VPN (?????! ?? ?? > > ????? ????????????!), ??? ???????? IT-security ???????? ?????????? > > ??????? ?? IPSec tunnels. ??????????? ?-??? ???????? ??????? ?? > > ?????????????? 30 (?? ?? ??????? ???????) > > ????? ?? ???? ???????? ????????? (??? ????????? ???????, ??? ??? > > ??????????/???????????? ???????????? ??????) ?????? "????????? ????" - > > "???? ??????? ? ??????", ?? ??????? ?? ?????????? ???? ? ??-US ?????. > > > > ????? ??????, ????? ?? ?????? ?????????? ????? ? VLANs, ?????????? ?? > > ????????? ?? ?????????????, ????????? ??????????? IPSec VPN. > > > > ???? ?? ??????? ???????, ???? ??????????? ??? ????????? ? ?? ????????? > > ??????? - ???? ?????? ????? ???????? ???? ???? ?? ??????? SOHO-Middle > > Office ? ?? ?? ????? ??????? Falcon Heavy (??????????? ???? ??? > > ?????????? ??? "????????? ???? ? 30,000 ???" ????? ?? ???????? > > ??????????)? ???? ? ?? ?? ????????? > > Mikrotik? TP-link ? DLink? > > > > ?????. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > /oleh hrynchuk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > uanog mailing list > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Capsman), ? ??? ?????? ?????????? ????? ??????? ???????. ???? ? ?????? ???????? ???????? - ????? ???????. -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > On 28 Aug 2020, at 13:36, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > > ???? ?????, ??????????, ?? ????????? ??????. > > ?????? ??... > > > ??, 28 ????. 2020 ? 12:19 Volodymyr O. Pidgornyi > ????: > ??????. > > ???? ???????? ? ??? ???? ??????? ????? ????????? Mikrotik > CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS (???? ??????) ??? ???? ?????? ??????, ?? > CCR1009-7G-1C-1S+ (???? ??? ? ?????????? ????????). CCR-????? > Mikrotik-?? ??? "? ???????" VPN-???????????, ?? ? ???????? ??? ???????? > ???????? ??? ???????. > > WiFi - Mikrotik cAP ac - ? ??????? ?? ??????? ?apsman. > > ?????????? ????? ????? ????? ? ???????? ????-??? (?? ? ???? D-link-? ??? > L2 ?????? ????????), ??? ?????? ??? ???? ???????? ?? ???? ? ???????? SFP+. > > ??????? ??????? ??????? ?? ?????? ????? ??????? - ????? ????? PCIe SFP+ > ???????? ???????, ??? ???? ?? ? ??????. > > ? ???? ???? ????? ?????????? Mikrotik-?? ? (?? ???? ? ??????????? > ??????????), ???? ?? ? ??????, ?? ?????? ?? ??????. > > 28.08.2020 11:11, Oleh Hrynchuk ?????: > > ??????-??????, ??????? ???. > > > > ???????????, ????-?????, ? ??????????. > > > > ???? ???????: > > > > ??????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ??????? ??????? > > ???? ????????? ????????, ??? ???? ?. > > > > ? ? ?????? ?? ? ????? ?? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? Middle Office > > solutions. > > > > ? ??? ??????? ???????, ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ???????. ? ?????? ??????? > > ?????? ??? 2-? ?? 10 ???????????. ???????? ????????? LAN-??????: ?? 16 > > ?? ?????? ???????, ? ?? 30 ?? ???????. > > ?? ??????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??? ??????? ??????????? ?????????. > > ??? ????? ? ??? ? ????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?????? > > ???????????. > > > > ??? WiFi ??? ??????? ????? ??????????? ?????????????. WiFi ??????? ? > > ??????? ???? guest networks (?? ??????? ???????), ????????????? ??? > > ??????? intranet-LAN ??? ?????? ? ???????? ???? ??? ???????? > > ??????????? ?? ??????. > > > > ????????? ???????: ???? ???? ?????????? (?????????) HP-?????? ? OS > > Linux (??? ????? ?? QA) ??? ???? ???????, ?????? - ?????-?????? + > > ????? ?????? (????? ? ? OS Linux) ? ????????, ????????????? ?? > > ?????????? ????????. > > ????"?????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ???????????????? IAM (identity & access > > management) ?? ???? ?????? LDAP-like. > > > > ????? ? ???????? ????? ???? (100 ????), ??? ??? ??????? ????? > > VIP-??????????? ???????? ???????????? ????? ?????? ?? 4G. ???? ?? ?? > > ?? ????????... > > > > ?????? ????? ??????????? - ???????? ?? ????? ? ? OS Linux ?? Windows. > > ????? ????? ?????????? ????????? ?? ????? ?????? ??? remote ??????. > > > > ?? ???????? ?????? VPN-???????????? ?????... ????? ??? remote work ? > > ??????? ?????????????? OpenConnect server ??? SSL VPN (?????! ?? ?? > > ????? ????????????!), ??? ???????? IT-security ???????? ?????????? > > ??????? ?? IPSec tunnels. ??????????? ?-??? ???????? ??????? ?? > > ?????????????? 30 (?? ?? ??????? ???????) > > ????? ?? ???? ???????? ????????? (??? ????????? ???????, ??? ??? > > ??????????/???????????? ???????????? ??????) ?????? "????????? ????" - > > "???? ??????? ? ??????", ?? ??????? ?? ?????????? ???? ? ??-US ?????. > > > > ????? ??????, ????? ?? ?????? ?????????? ????? ? VLANs, ?????????? ?? > > ????????? ?? ?????????????, ????????? ??????????? IPSec VPN. > > > > ???? ?? ??????? ???????, ???? ??????????? ??? ????????? ? ?? ????????? > > ??????? - ???? ?????? ????? ???????? ???? ???? ?? ??????? SOHO-Middle > > Office ? ?? ?? ????? ??????? Falcon Heavy (??????????? ???? ??? > > ?????????? ??? "????????? ???? ? 30,000 ???" ????? ?? ???????? > > ??????????)? ???? ? ?? ?? ????????? > > Mikrotik? TP-link ? DLink? > > > > ?????. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > /oleh hrynchuk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > uanog mailing list > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vpodgorny at gmail.com Fri Aug 28 15:22:05 2020 From: vpodgorny at gmail.com (Volodymyr O. Pidgornyi) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 15:22:05 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0J3QtSDQv9GA0L4g0L/QvtC70ZbRgtC40LrRgy4g0J8=?= =?utf-8?b?0L7RgNC10LrQvtC80LXQvdC00YPQudGC0LUg0ZbQvdGC0LXQs9GA0LDRhtGW?= =?utf-8?b?0LnQvdC1INGA0ZbRiNC10L3QvdGPINC00LvRjyBtaWRkbGUgb2ZmaWNl?= In-Reply-To: <5BDA19F0-0044-4145-BD22-D75A1CD865AA@xlit.one> References: <5BDA19F0-0044-4145-BD22-D75A1CD865AA@xlit.one> Message-ID: <173b6afb-65bd-3977-6e44-aeea179c51e3@gmail.com> For general use IMHO Ubiquiti ???? ???????? ? ?????? ???? ?? ??? ????????????? ???????? ????????, ??? Capsman - ? ???? ???? ? ??, ? ??. ? ??????? ?? ??? ?????? IMHO ????????? ?? ?? ????? (???? ? ???????? ? ????????? ? ????? ???????). ????????? ??? ?????? ???? ????? (UC-CK ~ 2500 ???.), ??? ??? ????? ?????????. ?? ??????????? ????????? - ? ????????? ???????????? ???????? ??? linux/win/macos (https://www.ui.com/download/unifi/) ? ???????? ? ?????. ??? ??????, ?? ???????? ??? ???????? ??? ???? ????????????, ? ? ????? ??? ???? ??????? ????? ????????. ???? ???????, ?? ???? ? ???????? Capsman ? ??????? ?? ????? ? ???? ? ??? ??? ???????????, ?? ???? ?????? ? ???? ?? ???????. 28.08.2020 15:13, Volodymyr Litovka ?????: > ????????? - ??? Small/Middle Office ?? ???? ?????????? ????????? ? > ????? ?? ??????? Mikrotik. > > ??????????, ?? Ubiquity ??? ?????? WiFi, ??? Mikrotik (??????????? > ????????? ? ???? ?????? ???????? ?????????) - ? ?? ???? ??????????? ?? > ??????????? ?? ??????????, ??? ? ???????? ?????? ??????? ????????? > ??????????. ???? ? ???????? ???????? ???? ???????????? Mikrotik ??? > wired networking, ? Ubiquity ??????? ?? wireless, ??? ? ???? ??? - ? > ???????? ?????????? ? ???????? ??????????? ??????? (Capsman), ? ??? > ?????? ?????????? ????? ??????? ???????. ???? ? ?????? ???????? > ???????? - ????? ???????. > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > ? "Vision without Execution?is Hallucination." -- Thomas?Edison > >> On 28 Aug 2020, at 13:36, Oleh Hrynchuk > > wrote: >> >> ???? ?????, ??????????, ?? ????????? ??????. >> >> ?????? ??... >> >> >> ??, 28 ????. 2020 ? 12:19 Volodymyr O. Pidgornyi > > ????: >> >> ??????. >> >> ???? ???????? ? ??? ???? ??????? ????? ????????? Mikrotik >> CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS (???? ??????) ??? ???? ?????? ??????, ?? >> CCR1009-7G-1C-1S+ (???? ??? ? ?????????? ????????). CCR-????? >> Mikrotik-?? ??? "? ???????" VPN-???????????, ?? ? ???????? ??? >> ???????? >> ???????? ??? ???????. >> >> WiFi - Mikrotik cAP ac - ? ??????? ?? ??????? ?apsman. >> >> ?????????? ????? ????? ????? ? ???????? ????-??? (?? ? ???? >> D-link-? ??? >> L2 ?????? ????????), ??? ?????? ??? ???? ???????? ?? ???? ? >> ???????? SFP+. >> >> ??????? ??????? ??????? ?? ?????? ????? ??????? - ????? ????? >> PCIe SFP+ >> ???????? ???????, ??? ???? ?? ? ??????. >> >> ? ???? ???? ????? ?????????? Mikrotik-?? ? (?? ???? ? ??????????? >> ??????????), ???? ?? ? ??????, ?? ?????? ?? ??????. >> >> 28.08.2020 11:11, Oleh Hrynchuk ?????: >> > ??????-??????, ??????? ???. >> > >> > ???????????, ????-?????, ? ??????????. >> > >> > ???? ???????: >> > >> > ??????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ????????? ?????? >> ??????????????? >> > ???? ????????? ????????, ??? ???? ?. >> > >> > ? ? ?????? ?? ? ????? ?? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? Middle Office >> > solutions. >> > >> > ? ??? ??????? ???????, ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ???????. ? ?????? >> ??????? >> > ?????? ??? 2-? ?? 10 ???????????. ???????? ????????? >> LAN-??????: ?? 16 >> > ?? ?????? ???????, ? ?? 30 ?? ???????. >> > ?? ??????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??? ??????? ??????????? >> ?????????. >> > ??? ????? ? ??? ? ????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?????? >> > ???????????. >> > >> > ??? WiFi ??? ??????? ????? ??????????? ?????????????. WiFi >> ??????? ? >> > ??????? ???? guest networks (?? ???????????????), ????????????? >> ??? >> > ??????? intranet-LAN ??? ?????? ? ???????? ???? ??? ???????? >> > ??????????? ?? ??????. >> > >> > ????????? ???????: ???? ???? ?????????? (?????????) HP-???????? OS >> > Linux (??? ???????? QA) ??? ???? ???????, ?????? - ?????-???????+ >> > ????? ?????? (????? ? ? OS Linux) ? ????????, ????????????? ?? >> > ?????????? ????????. >> > ????"?????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ???????????????? IAM (identity & >> access >> > management) ?? ???? ?????? LDAP-like. >> > >> > ????? ? ???????? ????? ???? (100 ????), ??? ??? ??????? ????? >> > VIP-??????????? ???????? ???????????? ????? ?????? ?? 4G. ???? >> ?? ?? >> > ?? ????????... >> > >> > ?????? ????? ??????????? - ???????? ?? ????? ??? OS Linux ?? >> Windows. >> > ????? ????? ???????????????????? ?? ????? ?????? ??? remote ??????. >> > >> > ?? ???????? ?????? VPN-???????????? ?????... ????? ??? remote >> work ? >> > ??????? ?????????????? OpenConnect server ??? SSL VPN (?????! >> ?? ?? >> > ????? ????????????!), ??? ???????? IT-security ???????? ?????????? >> > ??????? ?? IPSec tunnels. ??????????? ?-??? ???????? ??????? ?? >> > ?????????????? 30 (?? ?? ??????? ???????) >> > ????? ?? ???? ???????? ????????? (??? ????????? ???????, ??? ??? >> > ??????????/????????????????????????? ??????) ?????? "????????? >> ????" - >> > "???? ??????? ? ??????", ?? ??????? ?? ?????????? ???? ? ??-US >> ?????. >> > >> > ????? ??????, ????? ?? ?????? ?????????? ????? ? VLANs, >> ?????????? ?? >> > ????????? ?? ?????????????, ????????? ??????????? IPSec VPN. >> > >> > ???? ?? ??????? ???????, ???? ??????????? ??? ????????? ? ?? >> ????????? >> > ??????? - ???? ?????? ????? ???????? ???? ???? ?? ??????? >> SOHO-Middle >> > Office ? ?? ?? ????? ??????? Falcon Heavy (??????????? ???? ??? >> > ?????????? ??? "????????? ???? ? 30,000 ???" ????? ?? ???????? >> > ??????????)? ???? ? ?? ?? ????????? >> > Mikrotik? TP-link ? DLink? >> > >> > ?????. >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > /oleh hrynchuk >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > uanog mailing list >> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> /oleh hrynchuk >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > From basil at vpm.net.ua Fri Aug 28 18:12:56 2020 From: basil at vpm.net.ua (VASYL MELNYK) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 18:12:56 +0300 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0J3QtSDQv9GA0L4g0L/QvtC70ZbRgtC40LrRgy4g0J8=?= =?utf-8?b?0L7RgNC10LrQvtC80LXQvdC00YPQudGC0LUg0ZbQvdGC0LXQs9GA0LA=?= =?utf-8?b?0YbRltC50L3QtSDRgNGW0YjQtdC90L3RjyDQtNC70Y8gbWlkZGxlIG9m?= =?utf-8?q?fice?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ? ???? ?? ?? ????????? 2960 ? ??? ?? 48 ?????? ????? ?? 250 ??????, ?? ??? ????? ????? ???????? ????? ???????, ? ?????? ????? ?? 8-???????? ?? ?????????? ? ???-????????, ? ?? ????? ??????????? ???? - ??? ????? ?????? 2 ????????, ???????? 4 ???????, ? ?? ??? ???? ????? 8 ????. ??????? ? ?????? ?? ??? ???????? ?.?. ?????? ???? ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ? ?? ?? ????? ?? ?? ???????? - ? ???? ???? ?????? - 5 ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ?? ??????, ? ??????? ????? ????? ?????? ??????. ??, 28 ???. 2020 ?. ? 11:12, Oleh Hrynchuk : > ??????-??????, ??????? ???. > > ???????????, ????-?????, ? ??????????. > > ???? ???????: > > ??????? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ???? > ????????? ????????, ??? ???? ?. > > ? ? ?????? ?? ? ????? ?? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? Middle Office > solutions. > > ? ??? ??????? ???????, ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ???????. ? ?????? ??????? > ?????? ??? 2-? ?? 10 ???????????. ???????? ????????? LAN-??????: ?? 16 ?? > ?????? ???????, ? ?? 30 ?? ???????. > ?? ??????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??? ??????? ??????????? ?????????. ??? > ????? ? ??? ? ????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ???????????. > > ??? WiFi ??? ??????? ????? ??????????? ?????????????. WiFi ??????? ? > ??????? ???? guest networks (?? ??????? ???????), ????????????? ??? ??????? > intranet-LAN ??? ?????? ? ???????? ???? ??? ???????? ??????????? ?? ??????. > > ????????? ???????: ???? ???? ?????????? (?????????) HP-?????? ? OS Linux > (??? ????? ?? QA) ??? ???? ???????, ?????? - ?????-?????? + ????? ?????? > (????? ? ? OS Linux) ? ????????, ????????????? ?? ?????????? ????????. > ????"?????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ???????????????? IAM (identity & access > management) ?? ???? ?????? LDAP-like. > > ????? ? ???????? ????? ???? (100 ????), ??? ??? ??????? ????? > VIP-??????????? ???????? ???????????? ????? ?????? ?? 4G. ???? ?? ?? ?? > ????????... > > ?????? ????? ??????????? - ???????? ?? ????? ? ? OS Linux ?? Windows. > ????? ????? ?????????? ????????? ?? ????? ?????? ??? remote ??????. > > ?? ???????? ?????? VPN-???????????? ?????... ????? ??? remote work ? > ??????? ?????????????? OpenConnect server ??? SSL VPN (?????! ?? ?? ????? > ????????????!), ??? ???????? IT-security ???????? ?????????? ??????? ?? > IPSec tunnels. ??????????? ?-??? ???????? ??????? ?? ?????????????? 30 (?? > ?? ??????? ???????) > ????? ?? ???? ???????? ????????? (??? ????????? ???????, ??? ??? > ??????????/???????????? ???????????? ??????) ?????? "????????? ????" - > "???? ??????? ? ??????", ?? ??????? ?? ?????????? ???? ? ??-US ?????. > > ????? ??????, ????? ?? ?????? ?????????? ????? ? VLANs, ?????????? ?? > ????????? ?? ?????????????, ????????? ??????????? IPSec VPN. > > ???? ?? ??????? ???????, ???? ??????????? ??? ????????? ? ?? ????????? > ??????? - ???? ?????? ????? ???????? ???? ???? ?? ??????? SOHO-Middle > Office ? ?? ?? ????? ??????? Falcon Heavy (??????????? ???? ??? ?????????? > ??? "????????? ???? ? 30,000 ???" ????? ?? ???????? ??????????)? ???? ? ?? > ?? ????????? > Mikrotik? TP-link ? DLink? > > ?????. > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: