From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 20:25:52 2020 From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 20:25:52 +0200 Subject: [uanog] PostgreSQL AWS RDS replication to on-premise site. Is it possible? Message-ID: ??????? ?????? ????. ??????? ?????? ??????????? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ??????????? v.12. ???? ???????? - ? AWS. ?????? - ????????. ?????????? ?????? - ??? ????? ? ?? ?? "AWS-?????????" ??????? ??????????? ? ?????????? ?? ?? "????????? ????????". ?????? ???? ? ???? ?? ?? "?????????? ?????????" ?? ????????????. ?? ?? ??? ???? ??? ???????. ? ??? ?????????, ?? ???? ????????, ?? ? AWS, ????????? RDS. ??, ?????????, ??????????? ????? ??????. ?? ?? RDS ???? ssh-??????? ???? ??????????? ????? ???????? config file. ????? ????? ???? ???????? ????? ?????? ????? ????? ?????????/gzip'????? ?? ?? "AWS-?????????", ????? rsync'?????? ?? ????????? ?????? ? ????? ??????? ??? ???? ??????????? ? ?????????? ?? "?????????? ?????????". ? ?? ??????? ? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ???????????. ???? ???????? ???????????? ?????????? ???????????. -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From misha at rattler.kiev.ua Thu Dec 10 21:37:19 2020 From: misha at rattler.kiev.ua (Michael Bochkaryov) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 21:37:19 +0200 Subject: [uanog] PostgreSQL AWS RDS replication to on-premise site. Is it possible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ????????, ??? ?? ???? ??????????: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/CHAP_PostgreSQL.html#PostgreSQL.Concepts.General.FeatureSupport.LogicalReplication https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/logical-replication.html Regards, Michael Bochkaryov On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:26 PM Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > ??????? ?????? ????. > > ??????? ?????? ??????????? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ?? ??? ????? > ??????????? v.12. > ???? ???????? - ? AWS. ?????? - ????????. > ?????????? ?????? - ??? ????? ? ?? ?? "AWS-?????????" ??????? ??????????? > ? ?????????? ?? ?? "????????? ????????". ?????? ???? ? ???? ?? ?? > "?????????? ?????????" ?? ????????????. ?? ?? ??? ???? ??? ???????. > > ? ??? ?????????, ?? ???? ????????, ?? ? AWS, ????????? RDS. ??, ?????????, > ??????????? ????? ??????. ?? ?? RDS ???? ssh-??????? ???? ??????????? ????? > ???????? config file. > > ????? ????? ???? ???????? > > ????? ?????? ????? ????? ?????????/gzip'????? ?? ?? "AWS-?????????", > ????? rsync'?????? ?? ????????? ?????? ? ????? ??????? ??? ???? ??????????? > ? ?????????? ?? "?????????? ?????????". ? ?? ??????? ? ?????? ?? ????? > ?????? ???????????. ???? ???????? ???????????? ?????????? ???????????. > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 07:51:15 2020 From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 07:51:15 +0200 Subject: [uanog] PostgreSQL AWS RDS replication to on-premise site. Is it possible? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ???, ?? ? ????? ?????. ?? ? ??????? ???????????? DMS (migration). ??? ??? ????? ?????? ????????... ?? ???? ?? ? ????? ??????? ???? ??????????????????. ?? ? ??????? ???? ?? ??? ?????????? ??????. ??, ???? ??????????? ????... ??, 10 ????. 2020 ? 21:37 Michael Bochkaryov ????: > ????????, ??? ?? ???? ??????????: > > > https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/CHAP_PostgreSQL.html#PostgreSQL.Concepts.General.FeatureSupport.LogicalReplication > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/logical-replication.html > > > Regards, > Michael Bochkaryov > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:26 PM Oleh Hrynchuk > wrote: > >> ??????? ?????? ????. >> >> ??????? ?????? ??????????? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ?? ??? ????? >> ??????????? v.12. >> ???? ???????? - ? AWS. ?????? - ????????. >> ?????????? ?????? - ??? ????? ? ?? ?? "AWS-?????????" ??????? ??????????? >> ? ?????????? ?? ?? "????????? ????????". ?????? ???? ? ???? ?? ?? >> "?????????? ?????????" ?? ????????????. ?? ?? ??? ???? ??? ???????. >> >> ? ??? ?????????, ?? ???? ????????, ?? ? AWS, ????????? RDS. ??, >> ?????????, ??????????? ????? ??????. ?? ?? RDS ???? ssh-??????? ???? >> ??????????? ????? ???????? config file. >> >> ????? ????? ???? ???????? >> >> ????? ?????? ????? ????? ?????????/gzip'????? ?? ?? "AWS-?????????", >> ????? rsync'?????? ?? ????????? ?????? ? ????? ??????? ??? ???? ??????????? >> ? ?????????? ?? "?????????? ?????????". ? ?? ??????? ? ?????? ?? ????? >> ?????? ???????????. ???? ???????? ???????????? ?????????? ???????????. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> /oleh hrynchuk >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edigarov at qarea.com Mon Dec 14 15:41:41 2020 From: edigarov at qarea.com (Gregory Edigarov) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 15:41:41 +0200 Subject: [uanog] slow ipsec between linux and mikrotik Message-ID: ???? ??????, ??? ??????????? ???????? ????? ???????????? ????????. mss/mtu - ????? ??? ???????, ?? ??? ????? ????????. 1M??? ?? 100M??? ??????.... ??? ????? ???? ????????? From doka at xlit.one Mon Dec 14 19:01:48 2020 From: doka at xlit.one (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:01:48 +0200 Subject: [uanog] slow ipsec between linux and mikrotik In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5448d15c-29f9-3f03-a4d8-cc4df8bad292@xlit.one> ???????? - -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [strongSwan] Packet loss in ipsec tunnel Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 16:44:30 +0200 From: Tobias Brunner To: wax g. , users at lists.strongswan.org Hi, > * When is replay-window stats increased ? Whenever a packet arrives with a sequence number that's lower than the lower end of the replay window (i.e. with seq < highest_received_seq - window). Could be an actually delayed packet but might also be because the window is simply too small for your line speed and traffic pattern, e.g. because packets arrive so fast and in quick succession that the window is moved constantly and too quickly so slightly delayed (or perhaps larger) packets have to be dropped. > * I've noticed that on?devices not experiencing packet losses over the > ipsec tunnel?all the stats = 0 (replay-window, replay & fail). Yes, those stats indicate errors, so it's good if everything is 0 there. > * I'm suspecting a replay window issue for received ipsec packets that > are dropped.. Did you configure a replay window size (connections..children..replay_window in swanctl.conf)? The default is 32, which is pretty low. Regards, Tobias On 14.12.2020 15:41, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > ???? ??????, > > ??? ??????????? ???????? ????? ???????????? ????????. > mss/mtu - ????? ??? ???????, ?? ??? ????? ????????. > 1M??? ?? 100M??? ??????.... > > ??? ????? ???? ????????? > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levchuk.igor at gmail.com Mon Dec 14 19:44:40 2020 From: levchuk.igor at gmail.com (Igor Levchuk) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:44:40 +0200 Subject: [uanog] slow ipsec between linux and mikrotik In-Reply-To: <5448d15c-29f9-3f03-a4d8-cc4df8bad292@xlit.one> References: <5448d15c-29f9-3f03-a4d8-cc4df8bad292@xlit.one> Message-ID: ??? ?????? ????????? ? On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 19:02, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > ???????? - > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [strongSwan] Packet loss in ipsec tunnel > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 16:44:30 +0200 > From: Tobias Brunner > To: wax g. , > users at lists.strongswan.org > > Hi, > > * When is replay-window stats increased ? > > > Whenever a packet arrives with a sequence number that's lower than the > lower end of the replay window (i.e. with seq < highest_received_seq - > window). Could be an actually delayed packet but might also be because > the window is simply too small for your line speed and traffic pattern, > e.g. because packets arrive so fast and in quick succession that the > window is moved constantly and too quickly so slightly delayed (or > perhaps larger) packets have to be dropped. > > * I've noticed that on devices not experiencing packet losses over the > ipsec tunnel all the stats = 0 (replay-window, replay & fail). > > > Yes, those stats indicate errors, so it's good if everything is 0 there. > > * I'm suspecting a replay window issue for received ipsec packets that > are dropped.. > > > Did you configure a replay window size > (connections..children..replay_window in swanctl.conf)? > The default is 32, which is pretty low. > > Regards, > > Tobias > > > On 14.12.2020 15:41, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > > ???? ??????, > > ??? ??????????? ???????? ????? ???????????? ????????. > mss/mtu - ????? ??? ???????, ?? ??? ????? ????????. > 1M??? ?? 100M??? ??????.... > > ??? ????? ???? ????????? > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing listuanog at uanog.kiev.uahttps://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Regards, Igor Levchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gregory Edigarov From basil at vpm.net.ua Fri Dec 25 17:22:32 2020 From: basil at vpm.net.ua (VASYL MELNYK) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 17:22:32 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0L3QtdC60L7RgtC+0YDRi9C5INCy0L7Qv9GA0L7RgSA=?= =?utf-8?b?0L/QviBkb3ZlY290?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ???? ??????? ???????? ?????? ??????? find /data-vmail/vmail/ -type f -name "dovecot*" -delete ??, 25 ???. 2020 ?. ? 16:27, Gregory Edigarov : > ??????? ???? ??? ? ??? ????????? - ? ??????????. > > ??? ?????? ??????, ? ???????? ??????? ?????. > ??? ???????? ?? ????? ??????, ??? rsync ???????? ?? ????? ?????, > ? ? ??? ??? ? dovecot, ???-?? ?? ??????????, > ??????-?? ?????????? ?????, ? ????????? ????? ???-?? > thunderbird ???????? ???????????? ?????? ?, ????????, ?????? ?? ?????????. > > ?????????????, ??????, ???-?? ? ???? ????? ???????? > ?????? ???????? doveadm deduplicate, ?? ??? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? > - ?? 3 tb > ????? ??? ?????????? - ?????? ?? ????????. > > ??? ????? ?????????? - ??? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????????? ?????, > ???????????? ? 2-3 ???? ???????, ??? > ? ??????? ???? ?????? ? ??????????????? ???????? ?? fs. > > -- > With best regards, > Gregory Edigarov > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yz at yz.kiev.ua Fri Dec 25 18:53:21 2020 From: yz at yz.kiev.ua (George L. Yermulnik) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 18:53:21 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?koi8-r?b?zsXLz9TP0tnKINfP0NLP0yDQzyAgZG92ZWNvdA==?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20201225165320.GI23624@yz.kiev.ua> Hello! On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 at 17:22:32 (+0200), VASYL MELNYK wrote: > ???? ??????? ???????? ?????? ??????? > find /data-vmail/vmail/ -type f -name "dovecot*" -delete ??? ??? mailbox ????? ????????? timestamp'? ?????? (?????? "-a" rsync'? ??? ????????????? - ???? "-t" ? ????? ????). ???? IMAP, ?? https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync (??? ?? ???????????, ?? ???????????? ??????, ??? ?????? ??? ??????????). > ??, 25 ???. 2020 ?. ? 16:27, Gregory Edigarov : > > ??????? ???? ??? ? ??? ????????? - ? ??????????. > > ??? ?????? ??????, ? ???????? ??????? ?????. > > ??? ???????? ?? ????? ??????, ??? rsync ???????? ?? ????? ?????, > > ? ? ??? ??? ? dovecot, ???-?? ?? ??????????, > > ??????-?? ?????????? ?????, ? ????????? ????? ???-?? > > thunderbird ???????? ???????????? ?????? ?, ????????, ?????? ?? ?????????. > > ?????????????, ??????, ???-?? ? ???? ????? ???????? > > ?????? ???????? doveadm deduplicate, ?? ??? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? > > - ?? 3 tb > > ????? ??? ?????????? - ?????? ?? ????????. > > ??? ????? ?????????? - ??? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????????? ?????, > > ???????????? ? 2-3 ???? ???????, ??? > > ? ??????? ???? ?????? ? ??????????????? ???????? ?? fs. -- George L. Yermulnik [YZ-RIPE] From edigarov at qarea.com Fri Dec 25 19:08:30 2020 From: edigarov at qarea.com (Gregory Edigarov) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:08:30 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0L3QtdC60L7RgtC+0YDRi9C5INCy0L7Qv9GA0L7RgSA=?= =?utf-8?b?0L/QviBkb3ZlY290?= In-Reply-To: <20201225165320.GI23624@yz.kiev.ua> References: <20201225165320.GI23624@yz.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <3999ee6a-1dd4-d0cf-e9a9-30f2ff3cff91@qarea.com> On 12/25/20 6:53 PM, George L. Yermulnik wrote: > Hello! > > On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 at 17:22:32 (+0200), VASYL MELNYK wrote: > >> ???? ??????? ???????? ?????? ??????? >> find /data-vmail/vmail/ -type f -name "dovecot*" -delete ????? ????????,? ? ??? ???? ?????????? ????????? ?? ????????? ??, ??? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?????????????? ??? ?????? >> ??? ??? mailbox ????? ????????? timestamp'? ?????? (?????? "-a" rsync'? >> ??? ????????????? - ???? "-t" ? ????? ????). >> ???? IMAP, ?? https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync (??? ?? ???????????, >> ?? ???????????? ??????, ??? ?????? ??? ??????????). ??, ???????, ? rsync -a . > >> ??, 25 ???. 2020 ?. ? 16:27, Gregory Edigarov : >>> ??????? ???? ??? ? ??? ????????? - ? ??????????. >>> ??? ?????? ??????, ? ???????? ??????? ?????. >>> ??? ???????? ?? ????? ??????, ??? rsync ???????? ?? ????? ?????, >>> ? ? ??? ??? ? dovecot, ???-?? ?? ??????????, >>> ??????-?? ?????????? ?????, ? ????????? ????? ???-?? >>> thunderbird ???????? ???????????? ?????? ?, ????????, ?????? ?? ?????????. >>> ?????????????, ??????, ???-?? ? ???? ????? ???????? >>> ?????? ???????? doveadm deduplicate, ?? ??? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? >>> - ?? 3 tb >>> ????? ??? ?????????? - ?????? ?? ????????. >>> ??? ????? ?????????? - ??? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????????? ?????, >>> ???????????? ? 2-3 ???? ???????, ??? >>> ? ??????? ???? ?????? ? ??????????????? ???????? ?? fs. From edigarov at qarea.com Fri Dec 25 19:11:27 2020 From: edigarov at qarea.com (Gregory Edigarov) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:11:27 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0L3QtdC60L7RgtC+0YDRi9C5INCy0L7Qv9GA0L7RgSA=?= =?utf-8?b?0L/QviBkb3ZlY290?= In-Reply-To: <3999ee6a-1dd4-d0cf-e9a9-30f2ff3cff91@qarea.com> References: <20201225165320.GI23624@yz.kiev.ua> <3999ee6a-1dd4-d0cf-e9a9-30f2ff3cff91@qarea.com> Message-ID: <0a45c848-b0f2-9aac-582f-be631ac33e5e@qarea.com> ? ???????? ??? - maildir On 12/25/20 7:08 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > > On 12/25/20 6:53 PM, George L. Yermulnik wrote: >> Hello! >> >> On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 at 17:22:32 (+0200), VASYL MELNYK wrote: >> >>> ???? ??????? ???????? ?????? ??????? >>> find /data-vmail/vmail/ -type f -name "dovecot*" -delete > ????? ????????,? ? ??? ???? ?????????? ????????? > ?? ????????? ??, ??? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?????????????? ??? ?????? > >>> ??? ??? mailbox ????? ????????? timestamp'? ?????? (?????? "-a" rsync'? >>> ??? ????????????? - ???? "-t" ? ????? ????). >>> ???? IMAP, ?? https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync (??? ?? ???????????, >>> ?? ???????????? ??????, ??? ?????? ??? ??????????). > ??, ???????, ? rsync -a . >>> ??, 25 ???. 2020 ?. ? 16:27, Gregory Edigarov : >>>> ??????? ???? ??? ? ??? ????????? - ? ??????????. >>>> ??? ?????? ??????, ? ???????? ??????? ?????. >>>> ??? ???????? ?? ????? ??????, ??? rsync ???????? ?? ????? ?????, >>>> ? ? ??? ??? ? dovecot, ???-?? ?? ??????????, >>>> ??????-?? ?????????? ?????, ? ????????? ????? ???-?? >>>> thunderbird ???????? ???????????? ?????? ?, ????????, ?????? ?? ?????????. >>>> ?????????????, ??????, ???-?? ? ???? ????? ???????? >>>> ?????? ???????? doveadm deduplicate, ?? ??? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? >>>> - ?? 3 tb >>>> ????? ??? ?????????? - ?????? ?? ????????. >>>> ??? ????? ?????????? - ??? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????????? ?????, >>>> ???????????? ? 2-3 ???? ???????, ??? >>>> ? ??????? ???? ?????? ? ??????????????? ???????? ?? fs. > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog From basil at vpm.net.ua Fri Dec 25 19:37:19 2020 From: basil at vpm.net.ua (VASYL MELNYK) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:37:19 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0L3QtdC60L7RgtC+0YDRi9C5INCy0L7Qv9GA0L7RgSA=?= =?utf-8?b?0L/QviBkb3ZlY290?= In-Reply-To: <3999ee6a-1dd4-d0cf-e9a9-30f2ff3cff91@qarea.com> References: <20201225165320.GI23624@yz.kiev.ua> <3999ee6a-1dd4-d0cf-e9a9-30f2ff3cff91@qarea.com> Message-ID: > > ????? ????????, ? ??? ???? ?????????? ????????? > ?? ????????? ??, ??? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?????????????? ??? ?????? > ?? ?? - ?????????, ??? ???? 3 ???? ?? ???????? ???????? ?????. ? ??? ????? ????????? ? ??????. # zfs get dedup data-vmail NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE data-vmail dedup on local -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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