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From doka at xlit.one Thu Jan 30 09:58:22 2020 From: doka at xlit.one (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 09:58:22 +0200 Subject: [uanog] billing system for use? Message-ID: <7f97a1e8-e5be-8835-c981-eba20c28e821@xlit.one> ??????, ? ????? ??? ??????????, ? ????? ??????? ???????? ? ??????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ?????? ??????, ??? ????? ?? ??????? ??????? ???????, ??????? ????? ??: - ????????? ?? ????????? ??????? ?????????? ?? ????????? ???? ?? ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ??????? ??????? - ???????????? ??????? ??????????? ? ???????????? ? ?????????? ????? ??????????? - ????? ????????? ?????? ?? ???? ??????????? ?? ??????? ?????? (e.g. Paypal ? ???????????? ???????) - ????? ?????? ?????????? ?????? - (????? ?????????? ??? ???? ??????) ????? ?????? (??? ????????????? ??????????? ?????????? ??? ?????????) ????????????? ?????????. ? ?? ???? ????????, ??? ?????? ? ???? ? ????, ????????? ?? ???? ?? ????????? ?????????????, ??? ????? "????????????? ?????????". ???????? ??? ????? ???????????? ????????, ??????? ???????? ???????? ??? ??????, ??????????? ????????? ????? ? ???????? ??? ??????????? :-) ???????? ??, ????? ??????? ????? API ??? ?????????? ? 3rd parties, ?? ?????? ????????? ????????? ???? ??????? ? ??????? CLI -? ???? ??. ????? ???????. ?? ? - ?? ???????? ? ?? ??????? ? ???????? kind of Amdocs ?? ? ????? ;-) ???? ???????????, ???? ??????? ??? ???????? ????, ?? ??????? ? ??? ?? ????? ??????? ??? ??????????? ???????? ??? ?????????????. ???????. -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison From eduard at melnik.org.ua Thu Jan 30 10:32:02 2020 From: eduard at melnik.org.ua (Eduard M) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 09:32:02 +0100 Subject: [uanog] billing system for use? In-Reply-To: <7f97a1e8-e5be-8835-c981-eba20c28e821@xlit.one> References: <7f97a1e8-e5be-8835-c981-eba20c28e821@xlit.one> Message-ID: ?????? ?? ????? ?????: * ??????? ???????/??????????? * ?????? ???/????????? * ??????????? ??????? ??????? (???????? woocommerce, nodeny.com.ua) ??? ????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ????????????? ????? ?????? (???? ?????? ???????, ???? ??????????, ???? ????????? ????????, ???? ?????? ?? ?????, ????-????-????). ???????, ?????? ??????? ???????? ????? ???, ? ??? ??????????? ????????. ?? ????? - ?????? (?? ???? ??????-???? ???????). ?? ??????????? - ??? ?????????? ??????? (?.?., ????-??? ???????? ???????). ????????? ????? ????? ???????? ?? stripe/fondy. ???? ??????? ????? ??????? ? ????? (?????? ???????, ????????) - ??? ??????? ??????? ?? ???????????? (???? ??????????, ?????????). ????????????, ????? ????????????... ????????? ??????? ????? ???, ??? ??? ??? ???? (???????, ?????????? ? ?????????? ?????????, ??????). ?? ??????????? - ????? ??? ??????????? ???-?? ???????? ? (???????? ??? ?????-?? ??? ???????) ????? ??????? ? ???? ????? - ????, ?????????? ? ????? ???????????? ? ??? ????? ??? :) ?????? On 30/01/2020 08:58, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > ??????, > > ? ????? ??? ??????????, ? ????? ??????? ???????? ? ??????? ??????????? > ???????? ?? ?????? ??????, ??? ????? ?? ??????? ??????? ???????, > ??????? ????? ??: > > - ????????? ?? ????????? ??????? ?????????? ?? ????????? ???? ?? > ?????? ??????? ? ?????????? ??????? ??????? > - ???????????? ??????? ??????????? ? ???????????? ? ?????????? ????? > ??????????? > - ????? ????????? ?????? ?? ???? ??????????? ?? ??????? ?????? (e.g. > Paypal ? ???????????? ???????) > - ????? ?????? ?????????? ?????? > - (????? ?????????? ??? ???? ??????) ????? ?????? 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In-Reply-To: References: <7f97a1e8-e5be-8835-c981-eba20c28e821@xlit.one> Message-ID: ??????, 30.01.20 10:32, Eduard M ????: > * ??????? ???????/??????????? ? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ???????, ??? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ???????? ?????????????? ????????? BGP-???????? ?? RIPEdb ??? ??????????. 16 ??????? ??? ????? :-) > * ?????? ???/????????? > > * ??????????? ??????? ??????? (???????? woocommerce, nodeny.com.ua) > > > ??? ????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ????????????? ????? ?????? (???? > ?????? ???????, ???? ??????????, ???? ????????? ????????, ???? ?????? > ?? ?????, ????-????-????). ? ?????? ??? API ?????????, ?????? ??? ??????? ??? ?????????? ??????? ???? ? ???? ?????? ????????????? ??? ? ??????????? backend'??. ?? ???? ????? ?????? backend - ??????? ??????, ???????? ?????? ? ???????? ?????????? ?? ???????. ? ????? ???????, ? ???????, ??? ?????? - ?? ????????? ??? ?????? ????????, ??, ? ?????? ???????, ?????? ?????? ?????? ??????????? ??????? ???? ? ??? ?????? ?????????? :-) ???????, ?????? ??? ????? ?????????? ? ????, ? ???? ?????????? - ??? ?? ???? ?????-????? ???????? ??? ?????????????. ??????, ????? ?? ??? ???? ?????? ? ??? ????? ??? ???????? - http://abills.net.ua/ > ? ??? ????? ??? :) ??? ?????? - ?????? -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison From eduard at melnik.org.ua Thu Jan 30 15:57:16 2020 From: eduard at melnik.org.ua (Eduard M) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 14:57:16 +0100 Subject: [uanog] billing system for use? In-Reply-To: References: <7f97a1e8-e5be-8835-c981-eba20c28e821@xlit.one> Message-ID: <6d1a2592-5aea-4dd5-5861-dd6d17bd9e78@melnik.org.ua> On 30/01/2020 14:05, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > ??????, > > 30.01.20 10:32, Eduard M ????: > >> * ??????? ???????/??????????? > > ? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ???????, ??? ???? ?????????? ?????????? > ???????? ?????????????? ????????? BGP-???????? ?? RIPEdb ??? > ??????????. 16 ??????? ??? ????? :-) ?? ?????? ?? ??????????? ? ???? ?????. ??????????????? ???, ??? ? ???????? ? ????????. ;) ??? ? ????????... > >> * ?????? ???/????????? >> >> * ??????????? ??????? ??????? (???????? woocommerce, nodeny.com.ua) >> >> >> ??? ????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ????????????? ????? ?????? (???? >> ?????? ???????, ???? ??????????, ???? ????????? ????????, ???? ?????? >> ?? ?????, ????-????-????). > > ? ?????? ??? 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