From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com Sun Mar 7 17:37:34 2021 From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 17:37:34 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0KLRg9C/0LvRjiDRltC3INC60L7QvdGE0ZbQs9GD0YA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LDRhtGW0ZTRjiBvY3NlcnYg0LIgQVdT?= Message-ID: ??????? ?????? ????. ???? ??????? ? networking... ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server 20.04, ?? ??????????? ? AWS. Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled Connect Banner: | Welcome *Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway.Error: any valid prefix is expected rather than "broadcast/24".* ? ?? ??????? oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a ... 27: tun0: mtu 1472 qdisc fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 link/none inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope global tun0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever oleh at oleh-ws:~$ oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r default dev tun0 scope link default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link metric 1000 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??????? -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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VPN-??????? ????? ???? ???????????. ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ???????? Private IP Ocserv AWS :( ?? ???????????? ?? ??????? ?????????? ???????, ??? ????, ??? ?????? ? ocserv ????????????. ??, 7 ???. 2021 ? 17:37 Oleh Hrynchuk ????: > ??????? ?????? ????. > > ???? ??????? ? networking... > > ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server 20.04, > ?? ??????????? ? AWS. > Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 > ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 > > ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? > > ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 > ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 > > ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: > > Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled > Connect Banner: > | Welcome > > > > *Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway.Error: any valid prefix is expected > rather than "broadcast/24".* > > > ? ?? ??????? > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a > ... > 27: tun0: mtu 1472 qdisc > fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 > link/none > inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope global tun0 > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > > > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r > default dev tun0 scope link > default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 > default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 > 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link metric 1000 > 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > > > > ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. > > ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??????? > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lystor at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 12:09:27 2021 From: lystor at gmail.com (Mykola Ulianytskyi) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 12:09:27 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0KLRg9C/0LvRjiDRltC3INC60L7QvdGE0ZbQs9GD0YA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LDRhtGW0ZTRjiBvY3NlcnYg0LIgQVdT?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: VPS ????? ?????? ? External IP ?? ?????????? ?????????? ? ?????? ?????????? ?? ?????????? ?? ????? ???? ???? VPN GW. ? AWS ?? ????????? ???? IP + NAT. -- Best regards, Mykola On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 11:23 AM Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > > ?????, ?????? ????????? ????????: > > ? ?????? ????????????? ???????? (???? ???????), ????? ?????????? ?????? ???????? ? ????????????? ??. > ????? ????? ? QA ? ??????? ????? ?????????? ???? ???????????. > ??????? ???? ??????? ? AWS ? ??????? US ?? ???? ????????????? EC2 t2.micro ?????? ???????????? VPN GW ? NAT (???? ???????? Source IP Amazon'a) ? ????? ????? "??????" ?? ?? ??????? > ???????????? ?????????? ??????????. ??? ????????? ?????????? ????? ???? ???????????? 2 (?.?. free OpenVPN ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ???????, ?? ????????? ? ????). > > ?? ??????????? ?? ???????? > > ? ???????? OpenConnect server ??? ?? ??????? ????????, ??? ???? ?? ???? ?????????? ???????? ???????? ??????? ??? VPN-??????? ????? ???? ???????????. ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ???????? Private IP Ocserv AWS :( ?? ???????????? ?? ??????? ?????????? ???????, ??? ????, ??? ?????? ? ocserv ????????????. > > > > ??, 7 ???. 2021 ? 17:37 Oleh Hrynchuk ????: >> >> ??????? ?????? ????. >> >> ???? ??????? ? networking... >> >> ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server 20.04, ?? ??????????? ? AWS. >> Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 >> ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 >> >> ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? >> >> ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 >> ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 >> >> ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: >> >> Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled >> Connect Banner: >> | Welcome >> >> Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway. >> Error: any valid prefix is expected rather than "broadcast/24". >> >> >> ? ?? ??????? >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a >> ... >> 27: tun0: mtu 1472 qdisc fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 >> link/none >> inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope global tun0 >> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >> inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy >> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ >> >> >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r >> default dev tun0 scope link >> default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 >> default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 >> 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link metric 1000 >> 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ >> >> >> >> ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. >> >> ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??????? >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> /oleh hrynchuk > > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 12:17:03 2021 From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 12:17:03 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0KLRg9C/0LvRjiDRltC3INC60L7QvdGE0ZbQs9GD0YA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LDRhtGW0ZTRjiBvY3NlcnYg0LIgQVdT?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 12:09 Mykola Ulianytskyi ????: > VPS ????? ?????? ? External IP ?? ?????????? ?????????? ? ?????? > ?????????? ?? ?????????? ?? ????? ???? ???? VPN GW. > ?? ??????? because corporative policy:( > ? AWS ?? ????????? ???? IP + NAT. > > ?? ????, ??? ?????? ?? ??? ????????? ?????? ???? ? ?????????? Public Elastic IP? > -- > Best regards, > Mykola > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 11:23 AM Oleh Hrynchuk > wrote: > > > > ?????, ?????? ????????? ????????: > > > > ? ?????? ????????????? ???????? (???? ???????), ????? ?????????? ?????? > ???????? ? ????????????? ??. > > ????? ????? ? QA ? ??????? ????? ?????????? ???? ???????????. > > ??????? ???? ??????? ? AWS ? ??????? US ?? ???? ????????????? EC2 > t2.micro ?????? ???????????? VPN GW ? NAT (???? ???????? Source IP > Amazon'a) ? ????? ????? "??????" ?? ?? ??????? > > ???????????? ?????????? ??????????. ??? ????????? ?????????? ????? ???? > ???????????? 2 (?.?. free OpenVPN ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?? > ???????, ?? ????????? ? ????). > > > > ?? ??????????? ?? ???????? > > > > ? ???????? OpenConnect server ??? ?? ??????? ????????, ??? ???? ?? ???? > ?????????? ???????? ???????? ??????? ??? VPN-??????? ????? ???? > ???????????. ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ???????? Private IP Ocserv AWS :( ?? > ???????????? ?? ??????? ?????????? ???????, ??? ????, ??? ?????? ? ocserv > ????????????. > > > > > > > > ??, 7 ???. 2021 ? 17:37 Oleh Hrynchuk ????: > >> > >> ??????? ?????? ????. > >> > >> ???? ??????? ? networking... > >> > >> ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server > 20.04, ?? ??????????? ? AWS. > >> Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 > >> ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 > >> > >> ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? > >> > >> ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 > >> ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 > >> > >> ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: > >> > >> Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled > >> Connect Banner: > >> | Welcome > >> > >> Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway. > >> Error: any valid prefix is expected rather than "broadcast/24". > >> > >> > >> ? ?? ??????? > >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a > >> ... > >> 27: tun0: mtu 1472 qdisc > fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 > >> link/none > >> inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope global tun0 > >> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > >> inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy > >> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > >> > >> > >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r > >> default dev tun0 scope link > >> default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 > >> default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 > >> 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link metric 1000 > >> 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link > >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > >> > >> > >> > >> ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. > >> > >> ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??????? > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> /oleh hrynchuk > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > /oleh hrynchuk > > _______________________________________________ > > uanog mailing list > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lystor at gmail.com Mon Mar 8 12:31:57 2021 From: lystor at gmail.com (Mykola Ulianytskyi) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 12:31:57 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0KLRg9C/0LvRjiDRltC3INC60L7QvdGE0ZbQs9GD0YA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LDRhtGW0ZTRjiBvY3NlcnYg0LIgQVdT?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Elastic IP ????? ????? NAT ????????????. -- Best regards, Mykola On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:17 PM Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > > > > ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 12:09 Mykola Ulianytskyi ????: >> >> VPS ????? ?????? ? External IP ?? ?????????? ?????????? ? ?????? >> ?????????? ?? ?????????? ?? ????? ???? ???? VPN GW. > > > ?? ??????? because corporative policy:( > >> >> ? AWS ?? ????????? ???? IP + NAT. >> > > ?? ????, ??? ?????? ?? ??? ????????? ?????? ???? ? ?????????? Public Elastic IP? > > > >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Mykola >> >> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 11:23 AM Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: >> > >> > ?????, ?????? ????????? ????????: >> > >> > ? ?????? ????????????? ???????? (???? ???????), ????? ?????????? ?????? ???????? ? ????????????? ??. >> > ????? ????? ? QA ? ??????? ????? ?????????? ???? ???????????. >> > ??????? ???? ??????? ? AWS ? ??????? US ?? ???? ????????????? EC2 t2.micro ?????? ???????????? VPN GW ? NAT (???? ???????? Source IP Amazon'a) ? ????? ????? "??????" ?? ?? ??????? >> > ???????????? ?????????? ??????????. ??? ????????? ?????????? ????? ???? ???????????? 2 (?.?. free OpenVPN ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?? ???????, ?? ????????? ? ????). >> > >> > ?? ??????????? ?? ???????? >> > >> > ? ???????? OpenConnect server ??? ?? ??????? ????????, ??? ???? ?? ???? ?????????? ???????? ???????? ??????? ??? VPN-??????? ????? ???? ???????????. ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ???????? Private IP Ocserv AWS :( ?? ???????????? ?? ??????? ?????????? ???????, ??? ????, ??? ?????? ? ocserv ????????????. >> > >> > >> > >> > ??, 7 ???. 2021 ? 17:37 Oleh Hrynchuk ????: >> >> >> >> ??????? ?????? ????. >> >> >> >> ???? ??????? ? networking... >> >> >> >> ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server 20.04, ?? ??????????? ? AWS. >> >> Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 >> >> ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 >> >> >> >> ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? >> >> >> >> ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 >> >> ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 >> >> >> >> ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: >> >> >> >> Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled >> >> Connect Banner: >> >> | Welcome >> >> >> >> Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway. >> >> Error: any valid prefix is expected rather than "broadcast/24". >> >> >> >> >> >> ? ?? ??????? >> >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a >> >> ... >> >> 27: tun0: mtu 1472 qdisc fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 >> >> link/none >> >> inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope global tun0 >> >> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >> >> inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy >> >> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >> >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ >> >> >> >> >> >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r >> >> default dev tun0 scope link >> >> default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 >> >> default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 >> >> 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link metric 1000 >> >> 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link >> >> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. >> >> >> >> ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??????? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> /oleh hrynchuk >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > /oleh hrynchuk >> > _______________________________________________ >> > uanog mailing list >> > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk From doka at funlab.cc Mon Mar 8 12:33:47 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 12:33:47 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0KLRg9C/0LvRjiDRltC3INC60L7QvdGE0ZbQs9GD0YA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LDRhtGW0ZTRjiBvY3NlcnYg0LIgQVdT?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ??????, ????????, ?? ? ???? ? route= ????????? ?? ????????? ??????? ???, ?? ??? ?????? invalid nexthop ??? ?????? On 07.03.2021 17:37, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > ??????? ?????? ????. > > ???? ??????? ? networking... > > ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server > 20.04, ?? ??????????? ? AWS. > Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 > ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 > > ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? > > ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 > ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 > > ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: > > Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled > Connect Banner: > | Welcome > > *Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway. > Error: any valid prefix is expected rather than "broadcast/24". > * > > > ? ?? ??????? > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a > ... > 27: tun0: mtu 1472 qdisc > fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 > ? ? link/none > ? ? inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope global tun0 > ? ? ? ?valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > ? ? inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy > ? ? ? ?valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > > > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r > default dev tun0 scope link > default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 > default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 > 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link metric 1000 > 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > > > > ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. > > ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ??????? ??? ??????? > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(????? ?????? - ?????? ??? logical connection. ?????????? ????? - ??????? ???? connections) ???????? ????????????? ???, ?? ?????? ? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ?? VPN ? ?????? ??????, ?????? ?? ?????? VPN ?? AWS EC2 ? ??? ?? ? ???? EC2 (?????? ???????? ???? Source IP) - ?? ???????????? ??????. ????? ????? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? ??????? ? ????? ??????????... ?? sshuttle ???????.. ?? ?? openconnect, ?? OpenVPN ?? ?????? ?????????. ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 12:33 Volodymyr Litovka ????: > ??????, > > ????????, ?? ? ???? ? route= ????????? > > ?? ????????? ??????? ???, ?? ??? ?????? invalid nexthop ??? ?????? > On 07.03.2021 17:37, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > > ??????? ?????? ????. > > ???? ??????? ? networking... > > ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server 20.04, > ?? ??????????? ? AWS. > Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 > ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 > > ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? > > ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 > ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 > > ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: > > Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled > Connect Banner: > | Welcome > > > > *Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway. Error: any valid prefix is expected > rather than "broadcast/24". * > > > ? ?? ??????? > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a > ... > 27: tun0: mtu 1472 qdisc > fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 > link/none > inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope global tun0 > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > > > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r > default dev tun0 scope link > default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 > default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 > 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link metric 1000 > 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > > > > ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. > > ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??????? > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing listuanog at uanog.kiev.uahttps://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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AWS > To: Volodymyr Litovka > Cc: List, Uanog , > > > ?? ? ?? ?????????? - ????? ????????. > ????? ?????? ??????. ??? ???????? ?? ???????. > > ??? ?????????? ?? ????? (???. ???. ? ?????). ??????????? logical connections ? ??????? ????????????? ????????? ? USA ? ???????? ?? ??????? ??????? ????? ? ???????. > ????? ???????????? ???????? ???? ???? ?????? ??????. ? ???? ????????? (????? ?????? - ?????? ??? logical connection. ?????????? ????? - ??????? ???? connections) > > ???????? ????????????? ???, ?? ?????? ? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ?? VPN ? ?????? ??????, ?????? ?? ?????? VPN ?? AWS EC2 ? ??? ?? ? ???? EC2 (?????? ???????? ???? Source IP) - ?? ???????????? ??????. > > ????? ????? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? ??????? ? ????? ??????????... > > ?? sshuttle ???????.. ?? ?? openconnect, ?? OpenVPN ?? ?????? ?????????. > > > > > ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 12:33 Volodymyr Litovka ????: >> ??????, >> >> ????????, ?? ? ???? ? route= ????????? >> >> ?? ????????? ??????? ???, ?? ??? ?????? invalid nexthop ??? ?????? >> >> On 07.03.2021 17:37, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: >>> ??????? ?????? ????. >>> >>> ???? ??????? ? networking... >>> >>> ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server 20.04, ?? ??????????? ? AWS. >>> Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 >>> ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 >>> >>> ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? >>> >>> ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 >>> ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 >>> >>> ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: >>> >>> Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled >>> Connect Banner: >>> | Welcome >>> >>> Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway. >>> Error: any valid prefix is expected rather than "broadcast/24". >>> >>> >>> ? ?? ??????? >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a >>> ... >>> 27: tun0: mtu 1472 qdisc fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 >>> link/none >>> inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope global tun0 >>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >>> inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy >>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ >>> >>> >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r >>> default dev tun0 scope link >>> default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 >>> default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 >>> 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link metric 1000 >>> 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ >>> >>> >>> >>> ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. >>> >>> ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??????? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> /oleh hrynchuk >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> uanog mailing list >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> -- >> Volodymyr Litovka >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Internet GW. ???? ?????????????. > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Mar 2021, at 15:41, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > > ? > > ?? ????????? mailman ??"?????? ?????. ?? ??????? ????? ????????... > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > ???: Oleh Hrynchuk > Date: ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 15:36 > Subject: Re: [uanog] ????? ?? ????????????? ocserv ? AWS > To: Volodymyr Litovka > Cc: List, Uanog , > > > ?? ? ?? ?????????? - ????? ????????. > ????? ?????? ??????. ??? ???????? ?? ???????. > > ??? ?????????? ?? ????? (???. ???. ? ?????). ??????????? logical > connections ? ??????? ????????????? ????????? ? USA ? ???????? ?? ??????? > ??????? ????? ? ???????. > ????? ???????????? ???????? ???? ???? ?????? ??????. ? ???? ????????? > (????? ?????? - ?????? ??? logical connection. ?????????? ????? - ??????? > ???? connections) > > ???????? ????????????? ???, ?? ?????? ? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????????? > ??????? ???????? ??????? ?? VPN ? ?????? ??????, ?????? ?? ?????? VPN ?? > AWS EC2 ? ??? ?? ? ???? EC2 (?????? ???????? ???? Source IP) - ?? > ???????????? ??????. > > ????? ????? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? ??????? ? ????? ??????????... > > ?? sshuttle ???????.. ?? ?? openconnect, ?? OpenVPN ?? ?????? ?????????. > > > > > ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 12:33 Volodymyr Litovka ????: > >> ??????, >> >> ????????, ?? ? ???? ? route= ????????? >> >> ?? ????????? ??????? ???, ?? ??? ?????? invalid nexthop ??? ?????? >> On 07.03.2021 17:37, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: >> >> ??????? ?????? ????. >> >> ???? ??????? ? networking... >> >> ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server 20.04, >> ?? ??????????? ? AWS. >> Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 >> ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 >> >> ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? >> >> ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 >> ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 >> >> ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: >> >> Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled >> Connect Banner: >> | Welcome >> >> >> >> *Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway. 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URL: From sia at uanog.sink.nest.org Tue Mar 9 07:49:39 2021 From: sia at uanog.sink.nest.org (Igor Sviridov) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 21:49:39 -0800 Subject: [uanog] =?koi8-u?b?9NXQzMAgptogy8/OxqbH1dLBw6akwCBvY3NlcnYg1yBB?= =?koi8-u?q?WS?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20210309054939.GE42866@rabbit.smph.nest.org> hi, ????????? ????i??????? ???? ???i??? ?? Taiscale: https://tailscale.com/kb/1059/ip-blocklist-relays Tailscale - ?? ???? SDN ? ?????i, ?? ???i Wireguard, ? ????i????? ??????i?i???ie?, 2-way NAT traversal ?? i????? ????????; ?????? ???????? ??? ????????, ???? ???????. ?i??????? ??? - ???i?? raspberry pi ?? FreeBSD :) ??? ??? ?????i Tailscale - ?? ??????? ????????, ??? ? ????? ? ? ???? ????????????. ? ??? ?????????? - ????? ????????? ? AWS Wireguard ?? NAT. ??? ?????????: https://habr.com/en/post/449234/ ??? ?i?????????? ?? ??? SSO/LDAP etc - ?? ?? ??????. --igor On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 11:23:06AM +0200, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > > ?????, ?????? ????????? ????????: > > ? ?????? ????????????? ???????? (???? ???????), ????? ?????????? ?????? > ???????? ? ????????????? ??. > ????? ????? ? QA ? ??????? ????? ?????????? ???? ???????????. > ??????? ???? ??????? ? AWS ? ??????? US ?? ???? ????????????? EC2 t2.micro > ?????? ???????????? VPN GW ? NAT (???? ???????? Source IP Amazon'a) ? ????? > ????? "??????" ?? ?? ??????? > ???????????? ?????????? ??????????. ??? ????????? ?????????? ????? ???? > ???????????? 2 (?.?. free OpenVPN ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?? > ???????, ?? ????????? ? ????). > > ?? ??????????? ?? ???????? > > ? ???????? OpenConnect server ??? ?? ??????? ????????, ??? ???? ?? ???? > ?????????? ???????? ???????? ??????? ??? VPN-??????? ????? ???? > ???????????. ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ???????? Private IP Ocserv AWS :( ?? > ???????????? ?? ??????? ?????????? ???????, ??? ????, ??? ?????? ? ocserv > ????????????. > > > > ??, 7 ???. 2021 ? 17:37 Oleh Hrynchuk ????: > > > ??????? ?????? ????. > > > > ???? ??????? ? networking... > > > > ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server 20.04, > > ?? ??????????? ? AWS. > > Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 > > ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 > > > > ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? > > > > ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 > > ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 > > > > ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: > > > > Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled > > Connect Banner: > > | Welcome > > > > > > > > *Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway.Error: any valid prefix is expected > > rather than "broadcast/24".* > > > > > > ? ?? ??????? > > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a > > ... > > 27: tun0: mtu 1472 qdisc > > fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 > > link/none > > inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope global tun0 > > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > > inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy > > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > > > > > > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r > > default dev tun0 scope link > > default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 > > default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 > > 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link metric 1000 > > 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link > > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > > > > > > > > ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. > > > > ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??????? > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > /oleh hrynchuk > > > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 08:02:38 2021 From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 08:02:38 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0KLRg9C/0LvRjiDRltC3INC60L7QvdGE0ZbQs9GD0YA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LDRhtGW0ZTRjiBvY3NlcnYg0LIgQVdT?= In-Reply-To: <20210309054939.GE42866@rabbit.smph.nest.org> References: <20210309054939.GE42866@rabbit.smph.nest.org> Message-ID: ???? ?????, ?????! ?????? ???? ?? ?? ?????.. ????? ?????. ??, 9 ???. 2021 ? 07:49 Igor Sviridov ????: > hi, > > ????????? ????i??????? ???? ???i??? ?? Taiscale: > https://tailscale.com/kb/1059/ip-blocklist-relays > > Tailscale - ?? ???? SDN ? ?????i, ?? ???i Wireguard, ? ????i????? > ??????i?i???ie?, 2-way NAT traversal ?? i????? ????????; > ?????? ???????? ??? ????????, ???? ???????. > ?i??????? ??? - ???i?? raspberry pi ?? FreeBSD :) > > ??? ??? ?????i Tailscale - ?? ??????? ????????, ??? ? ????? ? ? ???? > ????????????. > > ? ??? ?????????? - ????? ????????? ? AWS Wireguard ?? NAT. > ??? ?????????: > https://habr.com/en/post/449234/ > > ??? ?i?????????? ?? ??? SSO/LDAP etc - ?? ?? ??????. > > --igor > > On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 11:23:06AM +0200, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > > > > ?????, ?????? ????????? ????????: > > > > ? ?????? ????????????? ???????? (???? ???????), ????? ?????????? ?????? > > ???????? ? ????????????? ??. > > ????? ????? ? QA ? ??????? ????? ?????????? ???? ???????????. > > ??????? ???? ??????? ? AWS ? ??????? US ?? ???? ????????????? EC2 > t2.micro > > ?????? ???????????? VPN GW ? NAT (???? ???????? Source IP Amazon'a) ? > ????? > > ????? "??????" ?? ?? ??????? > > ???????????? ?????????? ??????????. ??? ????????? ?????????? ????? ???? > > ???????????? 2 (?.?. free OpenVPN ?? ???? ??????, ???? ???? ??? ?????? ?? > > ???????, ?? ????????? ? ????). > > > > ?? ??????????? ?? ???????? > > > > ? ???????? OpenConnect server ??? ?? ??????? ????????, ??? ???? ?? ???? > > ?????????? ???????? ???????? ??????? ??? VPN-??????? ????? ???? > > ???????????. ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ???????? Private IP Ocserv AWS :( > ?? > > ???????????? ?? ??????? ?????????? ???????, ??? ????, ??? ?????? ? ocserv > > ????????????. > > > > > > > > ??, 7 ???. 2021 ? 17:37 Oleh Hrynchuk ????: > > > > > ??????? ?????? ????. > > > > > > ???? ??????? ? networking... > > > > > > ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server > 20.04, > > > ?? ??????????? ? AWS. > > > Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 > > > ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 > > > > > > ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? > > > > > > ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 > > > ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 > > > > > > ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: > > > > > > Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled > > > Connect Banner: > > > | Welcome > > > > > > > > > > > > *Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway.Error: any valid prefix is expected > > > rather than "broadcast/24".* > > > > > > > > > ? ?? ??????? > > > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a > > > ... > > > 27: tun0: mtu 1472 qdisc > > > fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 > > > link/none > > > inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope global tun0 > > > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > > > inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy > > > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > > > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > > > > > > > > > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r > > > default dev tun0 scope link > > > default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 > > > default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 > > > 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link metric 1000 > > > 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link > > > oleh at oleh-ws:~$ > > > > > > > > > > > > ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. > > > > > > ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??????? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > /oleh hrynchuk > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > /oleh hrynchuk > > > _______________________________________________ > > uanog mailing list > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doka at funlab.cc Tue Mar 9 10:15:07 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:15:07 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?RndkOiDQotGD0L/Qu9GOINGW0Lcg0LrQvtC90YTRltCz?= =?utf-8?b?0YPRgNCw0YbRltGU0Y4gb2NzZXJ2INCyIEFXUw==?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39589af2-b0c5-f698-35ab-9e77e15637c8@funlab.cc> ??????, > ? ?????? ????????????? ???????? (???? ???????), ????? ?????????? > ?????? ???????? ? ????????????? ??. > ??????? ???? ??????? ? AWS ? ??????? US ?? ???? ????????????? EC2 > t2.micro ?????? ???????????? VPN GW ? NAT ?? ?????? ????????. ? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?? ????????, ? ???? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?????? ? ????????????? ?????. ?? ??????? ??????? ? ??????? ?????????? ??????, ???? ???? ???????? ????????? ? ????-???? ????? ?? NAT'??? ?? ? ???????????? ?????? - ???? ???, ?? ?? ??????? ? ??????? ????????????? On 08.03.2021 17:39, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > > > ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 16:07 Volodymyr Litovka ????: > > ?? ??? SSL VPN ????? ?????????? ???????? ?????? ?????. ?????? > ?????? ????????? VPN? ????? ???? ??????? ?????????? ?? > ????????????? vpn-??????. ????? - ???? ????? - ?? ????, ????? - ?? > ?????. > > > Policy ?? ???????? ?? AWS EC2 ? security group ??????????? ??????? IP > address. ??? ?? ?????? ????????? ???? ???? IP address ???????? > Internet GW. > ???? ?????????????. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 8 Mar 2021, at 15:41, Oleh Hrynchuk > > wrote: >> >> ? >> >> ?? ????????? mailman ??"?????? ?????. ?? ??????? ????? ????????... >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> ???: *Oleh Hrynchuk* > > >> Date: ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 15:36 >> Subject: Re: [uanog] ????? ?? ????????????? ocserv ? AWS >> To: Volodymyr Litovka >> Cc: List, Uanog > >, >> >> >> ?? ? ?? ?????????? - ????? ????????. >> ????? ?????? ??????. ??? ???????? ?? ???????. >> >> ??? ?????????? ?? ????? (???. ???. ? ?????). ??????????? logical >> connections ? ??????? ????????????? ????????? ? USA ? ???????? ?? >> ??????? ??????? ????? ? ???????. >> ????? ???????????? ???????? ???? ???? ?????? ??????. ? ???? >> ????????? (????? ?????? - ?????? ??? logical connection. >> ?????????? ????? - ??????? ???? connections) >> >> ???????? ????????????? ???, ?? ?????? ? ???????? ??????? ????? >> ?????????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ?? VPN ? ?????? ??????, >> ?????? ?? ?????? VPN ?? AWS EC2 ? ??? ?? ? ???? EC2 (?????? >> ???????? ???? Source IP) - ?? ???????????? ??????. >> >> ????? ????? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? ??????? ? ????? ??????????... >> >> ?? sshuttle ???????.. ?? ?? openconnect, ?? OpenVPN ?? ?????? >> ?????????. >> >> >> >> >> ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 12:33 Volodymyr Litovka ????: >> >> ??????, >> >> ????????, ?? ? ???? ? route= ????????? >> >> ?? ????????? ??????? ???, ?? ??? ?????? invalid nexthop ??? >> ?????? >> >> On 07.03.2021 17:37, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: >>> ??????? ?????? ????. >>> >>> ???? ??????? ? networking... >>> >>> ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu >>> server 20.04, ?? ??????????? ? AWS. >>> Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 >>> ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 >>> >>> ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? >>> >>> ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 >>> ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 >>> >>> ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: >>> >>> Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled >>> Connect Banner: >>> | Welcome >>> >>> *Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway. >>> Error: any valid prefix is expected rather than "broadcast/24". >>> * >>> >>> >>> ? ?? ??????? >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a >>> ... >>> 27: tun0: mtu 1472 >>> qdisc fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 >>> ? ? link/none >>> ? ? inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope >>> global tun0 >>> ? ? ? ?valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >>> ? ? inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy >>> ? ? ? ?valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ >>> >>> >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r >>> default dev tun0 scope link >>> default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 >>> default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 >>> 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link >>> metric 1000 >>> 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ >>> >>> >>> >>> ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. >>> >>> ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ??????? ??? ??????? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> /oleh hrynchuk >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> uanog mailing list >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> >> -- >> Volodymyr Litovka >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> /oleh hrynchuk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> > > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 10:22:18 2021 From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:22:18 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?RndkOiDQotGD0L/Qu9GOINGW0Lcg0LrQvtC90YTRltCz?= =?utf-8?b?0YPRgNCw0YbRltGU0Y4gb2NzZXJ2INCyIEFXUw==?= In-Reply-To: <39589af2-b0c5-f698-35ab-9e77e15637c8@funlab.cc> References: <39589af2-b0c5-f698-35ab-9e77e15637c8@funlab.cc> Message-ID: ?????? ?? ??????? ??????? EC2-?????? ? AWS :) ? ??? ? ??????. ???????? (?? ? ? ???????) - ??????????? ????????? VPN-server ?? ????? EC2 ?? ?? ???? ???????? (? ??????? LAN ?? ? "????????" LANs). ??????? ????????? "??????" ?? ??? AWS VPN server ???? ? ????????? ??????? WAN IP address. ?????, ???? "??????" ? ???????? ?????, ?? ????? ???????? ??????? VPN ? ??????, ? ???? ??? ????????? ????? VPN ? AWS EC2. ?? ??????????? ??????? ?????????. ? ???????? ???????? ?? "??????" ??. ??, 9 ???. 2021 ? 10:15 Volodymyr Litovka ????: > ??????, > > ? ?????? ????????????? ???????? (???? ???????), ????? ?????????? ?????? > ???????? ? ????????????? ??. > ??????? ???? ??????? ? AWS ? ??????? US ?? ???? ????????????? EC2 t2.micro > ?????? ???????????? VPN GW ? NAT > > ?? ?????? ????????. ? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?? ????????, ? ???? ?????? > ???????? ?????? ?????? ? ????????????? ?????. ?? ??????? ??????? ? ??????? > ?????????? ??????, ???? ???? ???????? ????????? ? ????-???? ????? ?? > NAT'??? ?? ? ???????????? ?????? - ???? ???, ?? ?? ??????? ? ??????? > ????????????? > > On 08.03.2021 17:39, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > > > > ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 16:07 Volodymyr Litovka > ????: > >> ?? ??? SSL VPN ????? ?????????? ???????? ?????? ?????. ?????? ?????? >> ????????? VPN? ????? ???? ??????? ?????????? ?? ????????????? vpn-??????. >> ????? - ???? ????? - ?? ????, ????? - ?? ?????. >> >> > Policy ?? ???????? ?? AWS EC2 ? security group ??????????? ??????? IP > address. ??? ?? ?????? ????????? ???? ???? IP address ???????? Internet GW. > ???? ?????????????. > > > > >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 8 Mar 2021, at 15:41, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: >> >> ? >> >> ?? ????????? mailman ??"?????? ?????. ?? ??????? ????? ????????... >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> ???: Oleh Hrynchuk >> Date: ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 15:36 >> Subject: Re: [uanog] ????? ?? ????????????? ocserv ? AWS >> To: Volodymyr Litovka >> Cc: List, Uanog , >> >> >> ?? ? ?? ?????????? - ????? ????????. >> ????? ?????? ??????. ??? ???????? ?? ???????. >> >> ??? ?????????? ?? ????? (???. ???. ? ?????). ??????????? logical >> connections ? ??????? ????????????? ????????? ? USA ? ???????? ?? ??????? >> ??????? ????? ? ???????. >> ????? ???????????? ???????? ???? ???? ?????? ??????. ? ???? ????????? >> (????? ?????? - ?????? ??? logical connection. ?????????? ????? - ??????? >> ???? connections) >> >> ???????? ????????????? ???, ?? ?????? ? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????????? >> ??????? ???????? ??????? ?? VPN ? ?????? ??????, ?????? ?? ?????? VPN ?? >> AWS EC2 ? ??? ?? ? ???? EC2 (?????? ???????? ???? Source IP) - ?? >> ???????????? ??????. >> >> ????? ????? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? ??????? ? ????? ??????????... >> >> ?? sshuttle ???????.. ?? ?? openconnect, ?? OpenVPN ?? ?????? ?????????. >> >> >> >> >> ??, 8 ???. 2021 ? 12:33 Volodymyr Litovka >> ????: >> >>> ??????, >>> >>> ????????, ?? ? ???? ? route= ????????? >>> >>> ?? ????????? ??????? ???, ?? ??? ?????? invalid nexthop ??? ?????? >>> On 07.03.2021 17:37, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: >>> >>> ??????? ?????? ????. >>> >>> ???? ??????? ? networking... >>> >>> ????????? ocserv (openconnect server) ?? ?????????? ubuntu server 20.04, >>> ?? ??????????? ? AWS. >>> Ubuntu ??? eth0: 172.31.18.xx/20 >>> ?? ????? ???????????? Public IP: 54.xx.xx.xx/32 >>> >>> ? ocserv.conf ????????? ??? ????? >>> >>> ipv4-network = 172.31.18.0 >>> ipv4-netmask = 255.255.240.0 >>> >>> ? ?????? ???? ? ????????????, ??? ?????: >>> >>> Connected as 172.31.19.13, using SSL + LZ4, with DTLS disabled >>> Connect Banner: >>> | Welcome >>> >>> >>> >>> *Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway. Error: any valid prefix is expected >>> rather than "broadcast/24". * >>> >>> >>> ? ?? ??????? >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip a >>> ... >>> 27: tun0: mtu 1472 qdisc >>> fq_codel state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 >>> link/none >>> inet 172.31.19.13/32 scope global tun0 >>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >>> inet6 fe80::c077:3a39:601b:c5e/64 scope link stable-privacy >>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ >>> >>> >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ ip r >>> default dev tun0 scope link >>> default via 192.168.31.200 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp metric 100 >>> default via 192.168.31.200 dev wlp2s0 proto dhcp metric 600 >>> 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp3s0 scope link metric 1000 >>> 172.31.16.0/20 dev tun0 scope link >>> oleh at oleh-ws:~$ >>> >>> >>> >>> ? ????? ???????? ? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????. >>> >>> ???? ? ?? ???????, ?? ???? ???? ?? ??? ??????? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> /oleh hrynchuk >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> uanog mailing listuanog at uanog.kiev.uahttps://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>> >>> -- >>> Volodymyr Litovka >>> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> /oleh hrynchuk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> >> > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doka at funlab.cc Tue Mar 9 10:26:48 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:26:48 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?RndkOiDQotGD0L/Qu9GOINGW0Lcg0LrQvtC90YTRltCz?= =?utf-8?b?0YPRgNCw0YbRltGU0Y4gb2NzZXJ2INCyIEFXUw==?= In-Reply-To: References: <39589af2-b0c5-f698-35ab-9e77e15637c8@funlab.cc> Message-ID: <87feb05e-08d2-4e23-33a8-ee33d987de0f@funlab.cc> On 09.03.2021 10:22, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > ??????? ????????? "??????" ?? ??? AWS VPN server ???? ? ????????? > ??????? WAN IP address. ?????, ???? "??????" ? ???????? ?????, ?? > ????? ???????? ??????? VPN ? ??????, ? ???? ??? ????????? ????? VPN ? > AWS EC2. ??????, ??????? ? ????? - ? ?????? ?? ????????? ?????????? > ?? ??????????? ??????? ?????????. ? ???????? ???????? ?? "??????" ??. ??????????? ?? AWS/VPN ? ???? ?????? ?? ???????????? ???????? -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 10:32:53 2021 From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:32:53 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?RndkOiDQotGD0L/Qu9GOINGW0Lcg0LrQvtC90YTRltCz?= =?utf-8?b?0YPRgNCw0YbRltGU0Y4gb2NzZXJ2INCyIEFXUw==?= In-Reply-To: <87feb05e-08d2-4e23-33a8-ee33d987de0f@funlab.cc> References: <39589af2-b0c5-f698-35ab-9e77e15637c8@funlab.cc> <87feb05e-08d2-4e23-33a8-ee33d987de0f@funlab.cc> Message-ID: ??, 9 ???. 2021 ? 10:26 Volodymyr Litovka ????: > > On 09.03.2021 10:22, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > > ??????? ????????? "??????" ?? ??? AWS VPN server ???? ? ????????? ??????? > WAN IP address. ?????, ???? "??????" ? ???????? ?????, ?? ????? ???????? > ??????? VPN ? ??????, ? ???? ??? ????????? ????? VPN ? AWS EC2. > > ??????, ??????? ? ????? - ? ?????? ?? ????????? ?????????? > > > ?? ??? ???? ???? ?????. security group ??? ????? EC2 ???????? ? rules ??? incoming ???? office WAN IP. ? ???????????/???????????? ??? ?????? ??????????? ???????? ???? ??????? ?? (??? ????? dynamic) ????? ?? ?????. ?? ?? ?????? ? ??????? 0.0.0.0/0. > ?? ??????????? ??????? ?????????. ? ???????? ???????? ?? "??????" ??. > > ??????????? ?? AWS/VPN ? ???? ?????? ?? ???????????? ???????? > > ?? ? ???. ? ?? ?????. ?????, ?????? ????? ??????????? wireguard. ???????? ?? ????... > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edigarov at qarea.com Wed Mar 10 16:51:55 2021 From: edigarov at qarea.com (Gregory Edigarov) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:51:55 +0200 Subject: [uanog] IPSEC vpn(strongswan) + users in AD In-Reply-To: <6b17373b-6c51-e5e1-b022-b840fc48254d@qarea.com> References: <6b17373b-6c51-e5e1-b022-b840fc48254d@qarea.com> Message-ID: <7f1e1cd4-872c-6e14-c3e7-962428f14398@qarea.com> On 2/26/21 8:07 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > ??????? ??????? ?????, > > ??? ???????? ?????, ?????? ?????? ????????? ? > > ???????? ? ????? ????: > > strongswan -> freeradius -> AD > ??????, ??? ??????????. ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ?? "???????????"? ?????. ???????????, ??? ?? ?????????? ????, ???? ????? ????? ?? vpn, ???? ????? 192.168.0.2, ?? ??????? ?? ???? ????????. ?? ? ? ????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?? ip ?? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ?? ??????????? ? vpn.? ? ???????? ?????????? ??? ???????, ipsec ??????? ???? ?????? ? ????? ??????? ??????????? ? ?????? ?????? ???? ????.?? ?? ??? ???? ? ?????? 192.168.0.2, ? ??????? ? ????? ?????????? ? ??????? ????? ? ???? ?? ??????? ?????????? ????? ???????? ????????? ?? 192.168.0.2 ????? ?? ?????-???? ?????? ????, ?? ????? ??, ??? ????????, ??? ? ????-?? ?? ????? ?????? ip... ??????? ???????. ? From doka at funlab.cc Wed Mar 10 16:54:32 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:54:32 +0200 Subject: [uanog] IPSEC vpn(strongswan) + users in AD In-Reply-To: <7f1e1cd4-872c-6e14-c3e7-962428f14398@qarea.com> References: <6b17373b-6c51-e5e1-b022-b840fc48254d@qarea.com> <7f1e1cd4-872c-6e14-c3e7-962428f14398@qarea.com> Message-ID: <044602f0-5c1c-f0d6-60b7-0e780605c273@funlab.cc> ?????? ???? ??? VPN ?? ?? RFC1918 - https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv4-special-registry/iana-ipv4-special-registry.xhtml ???? documentation ??? whatever else ??? ??? 99% ?????? ???? ?? ???????????? :) On 10.03.2021 16:51, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > > On 2/26/21 8:07 PM, Gregory Edigarov wrote: >> ??????? ??????? ?????, >> >> ??? ???????? ?????, ?????? ?????? ????????? ? >> >> ???????? ? ????? ????: >> >> strongswan -> freeradius -> AD >> > ??????, ??? ??????????. ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ?? "???????????"? ?????. > ???????????, ??? ?? ?????????? ????, ???? ????? ????? ?? vpn, ???? ???? > 192.168.0.2, ?? ??????? ?? ???? ????????. > ?? ? ? ????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?? ip ?? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ?? > ??????????? > ? vpn. > ? ???????? ?????????? ??? ???????, ipsec ??????? ???? ?????? ? ????? > ??????? > ??????????? ? ?????? ?????? ???? ????.?? ?? ??? ???? ? ?????? 192.168.0.2, > ? ??????? ? ????? ?????????? ? ??????? ????? ? ???? ?? ??????? ?????????? > ????? ???????? ????????? ?? 192.168.0.2 ????? ?? ?????-???? ?????? ????, ?? > ????? ??, ??? ????????, ??? ? ????-?? ?? ????? ?????? ip... > > ??????? ???????. > > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"???????????"? ?????. > ???????????, ??? ?? ?????????? ????, ???? ????? ????? ?? vpn, ???? ???? > 192.168.0.2, ?? ??????? ?? ???? ????????. > ?? ? ? ????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?? ip ?? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ?? > ??????????? > ? vpn. > ? ???????? ?????????? ??? ???????, ipsec ??????? ???? ?????? ? ????? > ??????? > ??????????? ? ?????? ?????? ???? ????.?? ?? ??? ???? ? ?????? 192.168.0.2, > ? ??????? ? ????? ?????????? ? ??????? ????? ? ???? ?? ??????? ?????????? > ????? ???????? ????????? ?? 192.168.0.2 ????? ?? ?????-???? ?????? ????, ?? > ????? ??, ??? ????????, ??? ? ????-?? ?? ????? ?????? ip... > > ??????? ???????. > > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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IPO. ? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. > > > -- > Best regards, > Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ > AS106-RIPE > mailto:alex at euro.net.ua <159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Taras Heichenko tasic at academ.kiev.ua From doka at funlab.cc Thu Mar 11 10:36:13 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 10:36:13 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQuNCz0YDQsNGG0LjRjyBPVkgg0LIg0L7QsdC70LA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LrQviA6LSk=?= In-Reply-To: <7A3F6C99-27F2-4D12-9DFF-0A1866DC0462@academ.kiev.ua> References: <1415019106.20210311090627@euro.net.ua> <7A3F6C99-27F2-4D12-9DFF-0A1866DC0462@academ.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <13fe352d-725e-1c6b-00f8-856f4f452339@funlab.cc> ?????? ??, ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? ??? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? - ????? ?????? ???????????? ?????? ? ??????????? ??????????. On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: > >> On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka wrote: >> >> ?????? ! >> >> ???????? ? ??????. >> ???????? :) > ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. > https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__[0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R > > ???? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? ?? ???????) > > ??? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. > ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? ??????? ???? ??, ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? ????????????. > ????????? ?? 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(???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% ???????. ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. > OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? ?? ???? ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ????????????. > ???? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ????????????, ?????? 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IPO. > ? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. > >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ >> AS106-RIPE >> mailto:alex at euro.net.ua <159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > -- > Taras Heichenko > tasic at academ.kiev.ua > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka wrote: ?????? ! ???????? ? ??????. ???????? :) ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__[0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R ???? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? ?? ???????) ??? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? ??????? ???? ??, ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? ????????????. ????????? ?? SBG2 ? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? ????? ??? ????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? ???????. ?? ??????? ????? ?????? ??????, ?????? ? ????????? ?? (? ??? ???? ??? SBG1, SBG3 ? ?. ?.) ????? ???????? ????????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????, ????????????? ???? ???? ???????, ????? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ???????? ?? ?????? ????????, ?????? ????, ??? ? ???????, ???????????????? ?????????? ????????, ???? ? ??? ?? ???????????? ???????? ??????. ????????? ???????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????, ?? ??????? ????????? ? ?????????????? ? ?? ???? ????????. ???????? ?????? ????? ????, ?? ??????????, ? ?????????, ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ???????. OVH ??????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ?? ?? ????? ???? ?????????? ??? ????. ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????????? ? ??? ????. ? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ????. ???????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????, ??????? ???????? ? ??????. ?? ????????? ?????? ? SBG2 ??????? ???? ???????? 25-30 ????? (UPD: ?????? ?? ? SBG2, ? ????? ? ???????? SBG, ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? ????) ??? ? ???? ?????? (???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% ???????. ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? ?? ???? ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ????????????. ???? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ????????????, ?????? (??? ? ???????? ???????) ??????-?? ?? ????????, ?? ?? ???? ??????-??????, ?? ??????? ???? ?????. ?? ????????? ? ????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ?????. ?????, ?? ???????? ????????? ??????, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ????????????????? ???? ???????? ?????? ????-????-??, ???? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ???, ?????? ? ???????, lichess, ?????????? ? OVH ?????, ??? ????? ?????-?? ??????????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ???? ?????????. ???? ????????????? ???????, ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ??? ???????. ??? ?? ?????????? ??????: ??? ??? ????? OVH ???????? ? ?????? ?? 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"Volodymyr Litovka" >:/ > > ?????? ??, ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? > ??? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? - ????? ?????? ???????????? > ?????? ? ??????????? ??????????. > On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: >>> On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka wrote: >>> >>> ?????? ! >>> >>> ???????? ? ??????. >>> ???????? :) >> ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. >> https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__ [0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R >> >> ???? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? ?? ???????) >> >> ??? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. >> ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? ??????? ???? ??, ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? ????????????. >> ????????? ?? SBG2 ? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? ????? ??? ????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? ???????. ?? ??????? ????? ?????? ??????, ?????? ? ????????? ?? (? ??? ???? ??? SBG1, SBG3 ? ?. ?.) >> ????? ???????? ????????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????, ????????????? ???? ???? ???????, ????? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ???????? ?? ?????? ????????, ?????? ????, ??? ? ???????, ???????????????? ?????????? ????????, ???? ? ??? ?? ???????????? ???????? ??????. >> ????????? ???????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????, ?? ??????? ????????? ? ?????????????? ? ?? ???? ????????. ???????? ?????? ????? ????, ?? ??????????, ? ?????????, ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ???????. >> OVH ??????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ?? ?? ????? ???? ?????????? ??? ????. ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????????? ? ??? ????. ? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ????. ???????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????, ??????? ???????? ? ??????. ?? ????????? ?????? ? SBG2 ??????? ???? ???????? 25-30 ????? (UPD: ?????? ?? ? SBG2, ? ????? ? ???????? SBG, ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? ????) >> ??? ? ???? ?????? (???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% ???????. ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. >> OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? ?? ???? ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ????????????. >> ???? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ????????????, ?????? (??? ? ???????? ???????) ??????-?? ?? ????????, ?? ?? ???? ??????-??????, ?? ??????? ???? ?????. >> ?? ????????? ? ????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ?????. ?????, ?? ???????? ????????? ??????, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ????????????????? ???? ???????? ?????? ????-????-??, ???? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ???, ?????? ? ???????, lichess, ?????????? ? OVH ?????, ??? ????? ?????-?? ??????????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ???? ?????????. ???? ????????????? ???????, ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ??? ???????. >> ??? ?? ?????????? ??????: ??? ??? ????? OVH ???????? ? ?????? ?? IPO. >> ? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. >> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Alexander V Sorokahttp://www.svr.ua/ >>> AS106-RIPE >>> mailto:alex at euro.net.ua <159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ >>> uanog mailing list >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> -- >> Taras Heichenko >> tasic at academ.kiev.ua >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"???????????? ???????" :-) ??????????? ??? ????? ????? ??????? ? ??????. ? ????????? ???????? ??????? ?? ????? ?????????, ????????????? ? ????-?? "??????" :-) ??? AJAX https://ajax.systems/ru-ua/products/ ??????? ?????? ????? ????????????? ? ???... Thursday, March 11, 2021, 11:46:02 AM, Volodymyr Litovka doka at funlab.cc you wrote: VL> ??????, ??? - ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ?? ??? ?? VL> ?????? ???????????. ? ?????? ? ???? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?? - VL> ??? ? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????? - ?????, VL> ???????? ????? ???? ? ???? ??????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ?? ?????????? ??????? :) VL> On 11.03.2021 11:42, Vladimir Sharun wrote: >> ??????, >> >> ??? ??? ??? ????????? ? ???? ?????????. ? ??? ??????: >> >> 1. ???????????? ? ????????? ??????? ??????? ??????? >> 2. ??? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????????, ??????????? ?????. >> >> >> ? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????: ?????? ??? ???????????? ???. >> >> >> >> /11 ??????? 2021, 10:36:23, ??? "Volodymyr Litovka" >:/ >> >> ?????? ??, ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? >> ??? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? - ????? ?????? ???????????? >> ?????? ? ??????????? ??????????. >> On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: >>>> On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka wrote: >>>> >>>> ?????? ! >>>> >>>> ???????? ? ??????. >>>> ???????? :) >>> ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. >>> https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__ [0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R >>> >>> ???? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? ?? ???????) >>> >>> ??? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. >>> ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? ??????? ???? ??, ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? ????????????. >>> ????????? ?? SBG2 ? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? ????? ??? ????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? ???????. ?? ??????? ????? ?????? ??????, ?????? ? ????????? ?? (? ??? ???? ??? SBG1, SBG3 ? ?. ?.) >>> ????? ???????? ????????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????, ????????????? ???? ???? ???????, ????? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ???????? ?? ?????? ????????, ?????? ????, ??? ? ???????, ???????????????? ?????????? ????????, ???? ? ??? ?? ???????????? ???????? ??????. >>> ????????? ???????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????, ?? ??????? ????????? ? ?????????????? ? ?? ???? ????????. ???????? ?????? ????? ????, ?? ??????????, ? ?????????, ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ???????. >>> OVH ??????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ?? ?? ????? ???? ?????????? ??? ????. ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????????? ? ??? ????. ? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ????. ???????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????, ??????? ???????? ? ??????. ?? ????????? ?????? ? SBG2 ??????? ???? ???????? 25-30 ????? (UPD: ?????? ?? ? SBG2, ? ????? ? ???????? SBG, ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? ????) >>> ??? ? ???? ?????? (???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% ???????. ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. >>> OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? ?? ???? ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ????????????. >>> ???? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ????????????, ?????? (??? ? ???????? ???????) ??????-?? ?? ????????, ?? ?? ???? ??????-??????, ?? ??????? ???? ?????. >>> ?? ????????? ? ????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ?????. ?????, ?? ???????? ????????? ??????, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ????????????????? ???? ???????? ?????? ????-????-??, ???? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ???, ?????? ? ???????, lichess, ?????????? ? OVH ?????, ??? ????? ?????-?? ??????????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ???? ?????????. ???? ????????????? ???????, ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ??? ???????. >>> ??? ?? ?????????? ??????: ??? ??? ????? OVH ???????? ? ?????? ?? IPO. >>> ? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. >>> >>>> -- >>> Best regards, >>>> Alexander V Sorokahttp://www.svr.ua/ >>>> AS106-RIPE >>>> mailto:alex at euro.net.ua <159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ >>>> uanog mailing list >>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>> -- >>> Taras Heichenko >>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> uanog mailing list >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> >> -- > Volodymyr Litovka >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >> >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> -- Best regards, Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ AS106-RIPE mailto:alex at euro.net.ua From doka at funlab.cc Thu Mar 11 12:04:10 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 12:04:10 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQuNCz0YDQsNGG0LjRjyBPVkgg0LIg0L7QsdC70LA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LrQviA6LSk=?= In-Reply-To: <13310093814.20210311120235@euro.net.ua> References: <1415019106.20210311090627@euro.net.ua> <7A3F6C99-27F2-4D12-9DFF-0A1866DC0462@academ.kiev.ua> <13fe352d-725e-1c6b-00f8-856f4f452339@funlab.cc> <1615455533.828521000.l614caac@frv53.fwdcdn.com> <13310093814.20210311120235@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: ?????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???? ????????. ?????????? - ????? On 11.03.2021 12:02, Alexander V Soroka wrote: > ?????? ! > > ? ? ????????? :) ?????? ? ????? ? ?????? ??????? ????????????? > ??? (???????? ???????-??????????) ??? ??????????. > ??? ????? ???????????? ? ?????, ??? ??????????. > ????? ????????????? ?? ???-??? ?? ??????? (????????? ??????). > ???? ???? ?? ?????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????? ??????? - ???? > ???????, ?? ?? ????????? ?????, ? ??????? ? ?????? ?????? > ??????, ? ?? ??????????????? ????? ? ?????????! > > ? ????? ???? ??? ??? ???? "???????????? ???????" :-) ??????????? ??? > ????? ????? ??????? ? ??????. > ? ????????? ???????? ??????? ?? ????? ?????????, ????????????? ? > ????-?? "??????" :-) ??? AJAX https://ajax.systems/ru-ua/products/ > ??????? ?????? ????? ????????????? ? ???... > > > Thursday, March 11, 2021, 11:46:02 AM, Volodymyr Litovka doka at funlab.cc you wrote: > VL> ??????, ??? - ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ?? ??? ?? > VL> ?????? ???????????. ? ?????? ? ???? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?? - > VL> ??? ? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????? - ?????, > VL> ???????? ????? ???? ? ???? ??????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ?? ?????????? ??????? :) > > VL> On 11.03.2021 11:42, Vladimir Sharun wrote: >>> ??????, >>> >>> ??? ??? ??? ????????? ? ???? ?????????. ? ??? ??????: >>> >>> 1. ???????????? ? ????????? ??????? ??????? ??????? >>> 2. ??? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????????, ??????????? ?????. >>> >>> >>> ? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????: ?????? ??? ???????????? ???. >>> >>> >>> >>> /11 ??????? 2021, 10:36:23, ??? "Volodymyr Litovka" >:/ >>> >>> ?????? ??, ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? >>> ??? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? - ????? ?????? ???????????? >>> ?????? ? ??????????? ??????????. >>> On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: >>>>> On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?????? ! >>>>> >>>>> ???????? ? ??????. >>>>> ???????? :) >>>> ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. >>>> https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__ [0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R >>>> >>>> ???? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? ?? ???????) >>>> >>>> ??? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. >>>> ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? ??????? ???? ??, ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? ????????????. >>>> ????????? ?? SBG2 ? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? ????? ??? ????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? ???????. ?? ??????? ????? ?????? ??????, ?????? ? ????????? ?? (? ??? ???? ??? SBG1, SBG3 ? ?. ?.) >>>> ????? ???????? ????????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????, ????????????? ???? ???? ???????, ????? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ???????? ?? ?????? ????????, ?????? ????, ??? ? ???????, ???????????????? ?????????? ????????, ???? ? ??? ?? ???????????? ???????? ??????. >>>> ????????? ???????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????, ?? ??????? ????????? ? ?????????????? ? ?? ???? ????????. ???????? ?????? ????? ????, ?? ??????????, ? ?????????, ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ???????. >>>> OVH ??????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ?? ?? ????? ???? ?????????? ??? ????. ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????????? ? ??? ????. ? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ????. ???????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????, ??????? ???????? ? ??????. ?? ????????? ?????? ? SBG2 ??????? ???? ???????? 25-30 ????? (UPD: ?????? ?? ? SBG2, ? ????? ? ???????? SBG, ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? ????) >>>> ??? ? ???? ?????? (???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% ???????. ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. >>>> OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? ?? ???? ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ????????????. >>>> ???? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ????????????, ?????? (??? ? ???????? ???????) ??????-?? ?? ????????, ?? ?? ???? ??????-??????, ?? ??????? ???? ?????. >>>> ?? ????????? ? ????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ?????. ?????, ?? ???????? ????????? ??????, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ????????????????? ???? ???????? ?????? ????-????-??, ???? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ???, ?????? ? ???????, lichess, ?????????? ? OVH ?????, ??? ????? ?????-?? ??????????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ???? ?????????. ???? ????????????? ???????, ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ??? ???????. >>>> ??? ?? ?????????? ??????: ??? ??? ????? OVH ???????? ? ?????? ?? IPO. >>>> ? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. >>>> >>>>> -- >>> Best regards, >>>>> Alexander V Sorokahttp://www.svr.ua/ >>>>> AS106-RIPE >>>>> mailto:alex at euro.net.ua <159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ >>>>> uanog mailing list >>>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>>> -- >>>> Taras Heichenko >>>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> uanog mailing list >>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>> -- > Volodymyr Litovka >>> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> uanog mailing list >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>> > -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vladimir.sharun at ukr.net Thu Mar 11 12:07:30 2021 From: vladimir.sharun at ukr.net (Vladimir Sharun) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 12:07:30 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQuNCz0YDQsNGG0LjRjyBPVkgg0LIg0L7QsdC70LA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LrQviA6LSk=?= In-Reply-To: References: <1415019106.20210311090627@euro.net.ua> <7A3F6C99-27F2-4D12-9DFF-0A1866DC0462@academ.kiev.ua> <13fe352d-725e-1c6b-00f8-856f4f452339@funlab.cc> <1615455533.828521000.l614caac@frv53.fwdcdn.com> <13310093814.20210311120235@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: <1615457144.599258000.c8liepad@frv53.fwdcdn.com> ??????, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ??????? ????? ? 11 ??????? 2021, 12:04:22, ??? "Volodymyr Litovka" : ?????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???? ????????. ?????????? - ????? On 11.03.2021 12:02, Alexander V Soroka wrote: ?????? ! ? ? ????????? :) ?????? ? ????? ? ?????? ??????? ????????????? ??? (???????? ???????-??????????) ??? ??????????. ??? ????? ???????????? ? ?????, ??? ??????????. ????? ????????????? ?? ???-??? ?? ??????? (????????? ??????). ???? ???? ?? ?????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????? ??????? - ???? ???????, ?? ?? ????????? ?????, ? ??????? ? ?????? ?????? ??????, ? ?? ??????????????? ????? ? ?????????! ? ????? ???? ??? ??? ???? "???????????? ???????" :-) ??????????? ??? ????? ????? ??????? ? ??????. ? ????????? ???????? ??????? ?? ????? ?????????, ????????????? ? ????-?? "??????" :-) ??? AJAX https://ajax.systems/ru-ua/products/ ??????? ?????? ????? ????????????? ? ???... Thursday, March 11, 2021, 11:46:02 AM, Volodymyr Litovka doka at funlab.cc you wrote: VL> ??????, ??? - ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ?? ??? ?? VL> ?????? ???????????. ? ?????? ? ???? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?? - VL> ??? ? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????? - ?????, VL> ???????? ????? ???? ? ???? ??????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ?? ?????????? ??????? :) VL> On 11.03.2021 11:42, Vladimir Sharun wrote: ??????, ??? ??? ??? ????????? ? ???? ?????????. ? ??? ??????: 1. ???????????? ? ????????? ??????? ??????? ??????? 2. ??? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????????, ??????????? ?????. ? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????: ?????? ??? ???????????? ???. /11 ??????? 2021, 10:36:23, ??? "Volodymyr Litovka" >:/ ?????? ??, ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? ??? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? - ????? ?????? ???????????? ?????? ? ??????????? ??????????. On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka wrote: ?????? ! ???????? ? ??????. ???????? :) ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__ [0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R ???? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? ?? ???????) ??? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? ??????? ???? ??, ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? ????????????. ????????? ?? SBG2 ? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? ????? ??? ????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? ???????. ?? ??????? ????? ?????? ??????, ?????? ? ????????? ?? (? ??? ???? ??? SBG1, SBG3 ? ?. ?.) ????? ???????? ????????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????, ????????????? ???? ???? ???????, ????? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ???????? ?? ?????? ????????, ?????? ????, ??? ? ???????, ???????????????? ?????????? ????????, ???? ? ??? ?? ???????????? ???????? ??????. ????????? ???????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????, ?? ??????? ????????? ? ?????????????? ? ?? ???? ????????. ???????? ?????? ????? ????, ?? ??????????, ? ?????????, ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ???????. OVH ??????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ?? ?? ????? ???? ?????????? ??? ????. ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????????? ? ??? ????. ? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ????. ???????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????, ??????? ???????? ? ??????. ?? ????????? ?????? ? SBG2 ??????? ???? ???????? 25-30 ????? (UPD: ?????? ?? ? SBG2, ? ????? ? ???????? SBG, ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? ????) ??? ? ???? ?????? (???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% ???????. ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? ?? ???? ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ????????????. ???? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ????????????, ?????? (??? ? ???????? ???????) ??????-?? ?? ????????, ?? ?? ???? ??????-??????, ?? ??????? ???? ?????. ?? ????????? ? ????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ?????. ?????, ?? ???????? ????????? ??????, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ????????????????? ???? ???????? ?????? ????-????-??, ???? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ???, ?????? ? ???????, lichess, ?????????? ? OVH ?????, ??? ????? ?????-?? ??????????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ???? ?????????. ???? ????????????? ???????, ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ??? ???????. ??? ?? ?????????? ??????: ??? ??? ????? OVH ???????? ? ?????? ?? IPO. ? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. -- >>> Best regards, Alexander V Sorokahttp://www.svr.ua/ AS106-RIPE mailto:alex at euro.net.ua <159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ uanog mailing list uanog at uanog.kiev.ua https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Taras Heichenko tasic at academ.kiev.ua _______________________________________________ uanog mailing list uanog at uanog.kiev.ua https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- > Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison _______________________________________________ uanog mailing list uanog at uanog.kiev.ua https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison _______________________________________________ uanog mailing list uanog at uanog.kiev.ua https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doka at funlab.cc Thu Mar 11 12:30:43 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 12:30:43 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQuNCz0YDQsNGG0LjRjyBPVkgg0LIg0L7QsdC70LA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LrQviA6LSk=?= In-Reply-To: <1615457144.599258000.c8liepad@frv53.fwdcdn.com> References: <1415019106.20210311090627@euro.net.ua> <7A3F6C99-27F2-4D12-9DFF-0A1866DC0462@academ.kiev.ua> <13fe352d-725e-1c6b-00f8-856f4f452339@funlab.cc> <1615455533.828521000.l614caac@frv53.fwdcdn.com> <13310093814.20210311120235@euro.net.ua> <1615457144.599258000.c8liepad@frv53.fwdcdn.com> Message-ID: <895119cc-d5ed-0598-f113-3bfb0bccc271@funlab.cc> :-D On 11.03.2021 12:07, Vladimir Sharun wrote: > ??????, > > ????? ?? ??? ????????? ??????? ????? ? > > /11 ??????? 2021, 12:04:22, ??? "Volodymyr Litovka" >:/ > > ?????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???? ????????. ?????????? - ????? > On 11.03.2021 12:02, Alexander V Soroka wrote: >> ?????? ! >> >> ? ? ????????? :) ?????? ? ????? ? ?????? ??????? ????????????? >> ??? (???????? ???????-??????????) ??? ??????????. >> ??? ????? ???????????? ? ?????, ??? ??????????. >> ????? ????????????? ?? ???-??? ?? ??????? (????????? ??????). >> ???? ???? ?? ?????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????? ??????? - ???? >> ???????, ?? ?? ????????? ?????, ? ??????? ? ?????? ?????? >> ??????, ? ?? ??????????????? ????? ? ?????????! >> >> ? ????? ???? ??? ??? ???? "???????????? ???????" :-) ??????????? ??? >> ????? ????? ??????? ? ??????. >> ? ????????? ???????? ??????? ?? ????? ?????????, ????????????? ? >> ????-?? "??????" :-) ??? AJAXhttps://ajax.systems/ru-ua/products/ >> ??????? ?????? ????? ????????????? ? ???... >> >> >> Thursday, March 11, 2021, 11:46:02 AM, Volodymyr Litovkadoka at funlab.cc you wrote: >> VL> ??????, ??? - ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ?? ??? ?? >> VL> ?????? ???????????. ? ?????? ? ???? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?? - >> VL> ??? ? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????? - ?????, >> VL> ???????? ????? ???? ? ???? ??????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ?? ?????????? ??????? :) >> >> VL> On 11.03.2021 11:42, Vladimir Sharun wrote: >>>> ??????, >>>> >>>> ??? ??? ??? ????????? ? ???? ?????????. ? ??? ??????: >>>> >>>> 1. ???????????? ? ????????? ??????? ??????? ??????? >>>> 2. ??? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????????, ??????????? ?????. >>>> >>>> >>>> ? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????: ?????? ??? ???????????? ???. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> /11 ??????? 2021, 10:36:23, ??? "Volodymyr Litovka" >:/ >>>> >>>> ?????? ??, ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? >>>> ??? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? - ????? ?????? ???????????? >>>> ?????? ? ??????????? ??????????. >>>> On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: >>>>>> On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?????? ! >>>>>> >>>>>> ???????? ? ??????. >>>>>> ???????? :) >>>>> ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. >>>>> https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__ [0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R >>>>> >>>>> ???? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? ?? ???????) >>>>> >>>>> ??? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. >>>>> ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? ??????? ???? ??, ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? ????????????. >>>>> ????????? ?? SBG2 ? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? ????? ??? ????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? ???????. ?? ??????? ????? ?????? ??????, ?????? ? ????????? ?? (? ??? ???? ??? SBG1, SBG3 ? ?. ?.) >>>>> ????? ???????? ????????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????, ????????????? ???? ???? ???????, ????? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ???????? ?? ?????? ????????, ?????? ????, ??? ? ???????, ???????????????? ?????????? ????????, ???? ? ??? ?? ???????????? ???????? ??????. >>>>> ????????? ???????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????, ?? ??????? ????????? ? ?????????????? ? ?? ???? ????????. ???????? ?????? ????? ????, ?? ??????????, ? ?????????, ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ???????. >>>>> OVH ??????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ?? ?? ????? ???? ?????????? ??? ????. ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????????? ? ??? ????. ? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ????. ???????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????, ??????? ???????? ? ??????. ?? ????????? ?????? ? SBG2 ??????? ???? ???????? 25-30 ????? (UPD: ?????? ?? ? SBG2, ? ????? ? ???????? SBG, ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? ????) >>>>> ??? ? ???? ?????? (???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% ???????. ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. >>>>> OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? ?? ???? ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ????????????. >>>>> ???? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ????????????, ?????? (??? ? ???????? ???????) ??????-?? ?? ????????, ?? ?? ???? ??????-??????, ?? ??????? ???? ?????. >>>>> ?? ????????? ? ????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ?????. ?????, ?? ???????? ????????? ??????, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ????????????????? ???? ???????? ?????? ????-????-??, ???? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ???, ?????? ? ???????, lichess, ?????????? ? OVH ?????, ??? ????? ?????-?? ??????????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????? ???? ?????????. ???? ????????????? ???????, ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ??? ???????. >>>>> ??? ?? ?????????? ??????: ??? ??? ????? OVH ???????? ? ?????? ?? IPO. >>>>> ? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>> Best regards, >>>>>> Alexander V Sorokahttp://www.svr.ua/ >>>>>> AS106-RIPE >>>>>> mailto:alex at euro.net.ua <159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ >>>>>> uanog mailing list >>>>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>>>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>>>> -- >>>>> Taras Heichenko >>>>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> uanog mailing list >>>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>>> -- > Volodymyr Litovka >>>> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> uanog mailing list >>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>>> > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(????????? ??????). > ???? ???? ?? ?????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????? ??????? - ???? > ???????, ?? ?? ????????? ?????, ? ??????? ? ?????? ?????? > ??????, ? ?? ??????????????? ????? ? ?????????! > > ? ????? ???? ??? ??? ???? "???????????? ???????" :-) ??????????? ??? > ????? ????? ??????? ? ??????. > ? ????????? ???????? ??????? ?? ????? ?????????, ????????????? ? > ????-?? "??????" :-) ??? AJAX https://ajax.systems/ru-ua/products/ > ??????? ?????? ????? ????????????? ? ???... > > > Thursday, March 11, 2021, 11:46:02 AM, Volodymyr Litovka doka at funlab.cc > you wrote: > VL> ??????, ??? - ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ?? ??? ?? > VL> ?????? ???????????. ? ?????? ? ???? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?? - > VL> ??? ? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????? - ?????, > VL> ???????? ????? ???? ? ???? ??????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ?? ?????????? > ??????? :) > > VL> On 11.03.2021 11:42, Vladimir Sharun wrote: > >> ??????, > >> > >> ??? ??? ??? ????????? ? ???? ?????????. ? ??? ??????: > >> > >> 1. ???????????? ? ????????? ??????? ??????? ??????? > >> 2. ??? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????????, ??????????? ?????. > >> > >> > >> ? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????: ?????? ??? ???????????? > ???. > >> > >> > >> > >> /11 ??????? 2021, 10:36:23, ??? "Volodymyr Litovka" > >:/ > >> > >> ?????? ??, ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? > >> ??? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? - ????? ?????? ???????????? > >> ?????? ? ??????????? ??????????. > >> On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: > >>>> On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?????? ! > >>>> > >>>> ???????? ? ??????. > >>>> ???????? :) > >>> ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. > >>> https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__ > >[0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R > >>> > >>> ???? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? > ?? ???????) > >>> > >>> ??? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. > >>> ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? > ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? ??????? ???? ??, > ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? > ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? ????????????. > >>> ????????? ?? SBG2 ? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ?? > ?????? ?????, ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? ????? ??? > ????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? ???????. ?? ??????? > ????? ?????? ??????, ?????? ? ????????? ?? (? ??? ???? ??? SBG1, SBG3 ? ?. > ?.) > >>> ????? ???????? ????????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????, > ????????????? ???? ???? ???????, ????? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ????? > ?????? ? ???????? ?? ?????? ????????, ?????? ????, ??? ? ???????, > ???????????????? ?????????? ????????, ???? ? ??? ?? ???????????? ???????? > ??????. > >>> ????????? ???????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????, ?? ??????? ????????? ? > ?????????????? ? ?? ???? ????????. ???????? ?????? ????? ????, ?? > ??????????, ? ?????????, ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ???????. > >>> OVH ??????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ?? ?? ????? ???? > ?????????? ??? ????. ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????????? ? ??? > ????. ? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ????. ???????? ?????????? ? ?????????? > ???????, ??????? ???????? ? ??????. ?? ????????? ?????? ? SBG2 ??????? ???? > ???????? 25-30 ????? (UPD: ?????? ?? ? SBG2, ? ????? ? ???????? SBG, ?? > ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? > ????) > >>> ??? ? ???? ?????? (???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% ???????. > ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? > ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? > ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? > ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. > >>> OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? > ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? ????????? > ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? ?? ???? > ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? > ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? > ????????????. > >>> ???? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? > ????????????, ?????? (??? ? ???????? ???????) ??????-?? ?? ????????, ?? ?? > ???? ??????-??????, ?? ??????? ???? ?????. > >>> ?? ????????? ? ????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ???????? > ???????? ?????? ?? ?????. ?????, ?? ???????? ????????? ??????, ????? ?? ??? > ????????? ????????????????? ???? ???????? ?????? ????-????-??, ???? ?????? > ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ???, ?????? ? ???????, lichess, ?????????? ? OVH > ?????, ??? ????? ?????-?? ??????????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ?? > ???????? ?????????? ?????? ???? ?????????. ???? ????????????? ???????, > ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ??? > ???????. > >>> ??? ?? ?????????? ??????: ??? ??? ????? OVH ???????? ? ?????? ?? > IPO. > >>> ? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. > >>> > >>>> -- >>> Best regards, > >>>> Alexander V Sorokahttp://www.svr.ua/ > >>>> AS106-RIPE > >>>> mailto:alex at euro.net.ua > <159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ > >>>> uanog mailing list > >>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog < > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog> > >>> -- > >>> Taras Heichenko > >>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> uanog mailing list > >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog < > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog> > >> > >> -- > Volodymyr Litovka > >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> uanog mailing list > >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog < > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog> > >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ > AS106-RIPE > mailto:alex at euro.net.ua > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(???????? ???????-??????????) ??? ??????????. ??? ????? ???????????? ? ?????, ??? ??????????. ????? ????????????? ?? ???-??? ?? ??????? (????????? ??????). ????? ????? ??? ??????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????? ??????? - ???? ???????,? ? ??? ???? ??????????? ??????,? ??? ???????? ? ?????? ?????? ??????, ?? ??? ???????????????? ?????? ? ?????????! ?? ?????? ???? ??? ??? ???? "???????????? ???????" :-) ??????????? ??? ????? ????? ??????? ? ??????. ?? ?????????? ????????? ???????? ??? ????? ?????????, ????????????? ? ????-??? "??????"? :-)? ???? AJAX https://ajax.systems/ru-ua/products/ ??????? ?????? ????? ????????????? ? ???... Thursday, March 11, 2021, 11:46:02 AM, Volodymyr Litovka doka at funlab.cc you wrote: VL> ??????, ??? - ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ?? ??? ?? VL> ?????? ???????????. ? ?????? ? ???? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?? - VL> ??? ? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????? - ?????, VL> ???????? ????? ???? ? ???? ??????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ?? ?????????? ??????? :) VL> On 11.03.2021 11:42, Vladimir Sharun wrote: >> ??????, >> >> ??? ??? ??? ????????? ? ???? ?????????. ? ??? ??????: >> >>? 1. ???????????? ? ????????? ??????? ??????? ??????? >>? 2. ??? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????????, ??????????? ?????. >> >> >> ? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????: ?????? ??? ???????????? ???. >> >> >> >> /11 ??????? 2021, 10:36:23, ??? "Volodymyr Litovka" >:/ >> >>? ? ??????? ??, ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? >>? ? ???? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? - ????? ?????? ???????????? >>? ? ??????? ? ??????????? ??????????. >>? ? ?On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: >>>>? ? ?On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka? ? wrote: >>>> >>>>? ? ??????? ! >>>> >>>>? ? ????????? ? ??????. >>>>? ? ????????? :) >>>? ? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. >>>? ? ?https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__ [0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R >>> >>>? ? ????? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? ?? ???????) >>> >>>? ? ???? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. >>>? ? ???? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? ??????? ???? ??, ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? ????????????. >>>? ? ?????????? ?? SBG2 ? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? ????? ??? ????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? ???????. ?? ??????? ????? ?????? ??????, ?????? ? ????????? ?? (? ??? ???? ??? 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(???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% ???????. ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. >>>? ? ?OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? ?? ???? ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? ????????????. >>>? ? ????? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ????????????, ?????? 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IPO. >>>? ? ?? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. >>> >>>>? ? ?-- >>>? ? ?Best regards, >>>>? ? ?Alexander V Sorokahttp://www.svr.ua/? >>>>? ? ?AS106-RIPE >>>>? ? ?mailto:alex at euro.net.ua? ? ? ?<159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ >>>>? ? ?uanog mailing list >>>>? ? ?uanog at uanog.kiev.ua? >>>>? ? ?https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>>? ? ?-- >>>? ? ?Taras Heichenko >>>? ? ?tasic at academ.kiev.ua? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>? ? ?_______________________________________________ >>>? ? ?uanog mailing list >>>? ? ?uanog at uanog.kiev.ua? >>>? ? ?https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> >>? ? ?-- >? ? ?Volodymyr Litovka >>? ? ? ? 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URL: From doka at funlab.cc Thu Mar 11 15:39:21 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 15:39:21 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQuNCz0YDQsNGG0LjRjyBPVkgg0LIg0L7QsdC70LA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LrQviA6LSk=?= In-Reply-To: References: <1415019106.20210311090627@euro.net.ua> <7A3F6C99-27F2-4D12-9DFF-0A1866DC0462@academ.kiev.ua> <13fe352d-725e-1c6b-00f8-856f4f452339@funlab.cc> <1615455533.828521000.l614caac@frv53.fwdcdn.com> <13310093814.20210311120235@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: <81545c6d-d257-469c-8ef6-5c5669b126a0@funlab.cc> ... ? ?????????? ? ????????? ?? ??????-???? :) P.S. https://argumenti.ru/world/2021/03/712808 On 11.03.2021 15:37, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > > ?????????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ????? ? ????????????????? > ????????????? ? ?????????? ??? ?? ???????? AJAX-???????????... > > ??, 11 ???. 2021 ? 12:02 Alexander V Soroka > ????: > > ?????? ! > > ?? ?? ?????????? :)? ??????? ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????? ????????????? > ??? 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AJAX > https://ajax.systems/ru-ua/products/ > > ??????? ?????? ????? ????????????? ? ???... > > > Thursday, March 11, 2021, 11:46:02 AM, Volodymyr Litovka > doka at funlab.cc you wrote: > VL> ??????, ??? - ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ?? ??? ?? > VL> ?????? ???????????. ? ?????? ? ???? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?? - > VL> ??? ? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????? - ?????, > VL> ???????? ????? ???? ? ???? ??????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ?? > ?????????? ??????? :) > > VL> On 11.03.2021 11:42, Vladimir Sharun wrote: > >> ??????, > >> > >> ??? ??? ??? ????????? ? ???? ?????????. ? ??? ??????: > >> > >>? 1. ???????????? ? ????????? ??????? ??????? ??????? > >>? 2. ??? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????????, ??????????? ?????. > >> > >> > >> ? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????: ?????? ??? > ???????????? ???. > >> > >> > >> > >> /11 ??????? 2021, 10:36:23, ??? "Volodymyr Litovka" > >>:/ > >> > >>? ? ??????? ??, ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ???????? ????? > ???????? ?? > >>? ? ???? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? - ????? ?????? ???????????? > >>? ? ??????? ? ??????????? ??????????. > >>? ? ?On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: > >>>>? ? ?On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V > Soroka> > >? wrote: > >>>> > >>>>? ? ??????? ! > >>>> > >>>>? ? ????????? ? ??????. > >>>>? ? ????????? :) > >>>? ? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. > >>> > https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__ > > >[0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R > >>> > >>>? ? ????? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? > ???????? ?? ???????) > >>> > >>>? ? ???? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. > >>>? ? ???? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? > ? ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? > ??????? ???? ??, ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. > ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? > ????????????. > >>>? ? ?????????? ?? SBG2 ? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? > ?? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? > ????? ??? ????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? > ???????. ?? ??????? ????? ?????? ??????, ?????? ? ????????? ?? (? > ??? ???? ??? SBG1, SBG3 ? ?. ?.) > >>>? ? ?????? ???????? ????????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? > ?????, ????????????? ???? ???? ???????, ????? ???? ????? ???????? > ??????? ????? ?????? ? ???????? ?? ?????? ????????, ?????? ????, > ??? ? ???????, ???????????????? ?????????? ????????, ???? ? ??? ?? > ???????????? ???????? ??????. > >>>? ? ?????????? ???????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????, ?? ??????? > ????????? ? ?????????????? ? ?? ???? ????????. ???????? ?????? > ????? ????, ?? ??????????, ? ?????????, ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? > ????? ??? ???????. > >>>? ? ?OVH ??????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ?? ?? ????? ???? > ?????????? ??? ????. ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????????? > ? ??? ????. ? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ????. ???????? ?????????? > ? ?????????? ???????, ??????? ???????? ? ??????. ?? ????????? > ?????? ? SBG2 ??????? ???? ???????? 25-30 ????? (UPD: ?????? ?? ? > SBG2, ? ????? ? ???????? SBG, ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ???? > ????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? ????) > >>>? ? ???? ? ???? ?????? (???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% > ???????. ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? > ???????, ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? > ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? > ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. > >>>? ? ?OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? > ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? > ????????? ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? > ?? ???? ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? > ?????????? ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? > ????? ?????? ???????? ????????????. > >>>? ? ????? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? > ????????? ????????????, ?????? (??? ? ???????? ???????) ??????-?? > ?? ????????, ?? ?? ???? ??????-??????, ?? ??????? ???? ?????. > >>>? ? ??? ????????? ? ????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? > ???????? ???????? ?????? ?? ?????. ?????, ?? ???????? ????????? > ??????, ????? ?? ??? ????????? ????????????????? ???? ???????? > ?????? ????-????-??, ???? ?????? ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ???, > ?????? ? ???????, lichess, ?????????? ? OVH ?????, ??? ????? > ?????-?? ??????????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ?? ???????? > ?????????? ?????? ???? ?????????. ???? ????????????? ???????, > ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?????????? > ??? ???????. > >>>? ? ???? ?? ?????????? ??????: ??? ??? ????? OVH ???????? ? > ?????? ?? IPO. > >>>? ? ?? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. > >>> > >>>>? ? ?-- >>>? ? ?Best regards, > >>>>? ? ?Alexander V Sorokahttp://www.svr.ua/ > ? > > >>>>? ? ?AS106-RIPE > >>>>? ? ?mailto:alex at euro.net.ua ? > > > ?<159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ > >>>>? ? ?uanog mailing list > >>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > > >>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > > >>>? ? ?-- > >>>? ? ?Taras Heichenko > >>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ?_______________________________________________ > >>>? ? ?uanog mailing list > >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > > >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > > >> > >>? ? ?-- >? ? ?Volodymyr Litovka > >>? ? ? ? "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas > Edison > >> > >>? ? ?_______________________________________________ > >>? ? ?uanog mailing list > >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > > >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > > >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ > AS106-RIPE > mailto:alex at euro.net.ua > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 16:11:20 2021 From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 16:11:20 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0JzQuNCz0YDQsNGG0LjRjyBPVkgg0LIg0L7QsdC70LA=?= =?utf-8?b?0LrQviA6LSk=?= In-Reply-To: <1615469901.371427000.i9ukhvlk@frv53.fwdcdn.com> References: <1415019106.20210311090627@euro.net.ua> <7A3F6C99-27F2-4D12-9DFF-0A1866DC0462@academ.kiev.ua> <13fe352d-725e-1c6b-00f8-856f4f452339@funlab.cc> <1615455533.828521000.l614caac@frv53.fwdcdn.com> <13310093814.20210311120235@euro.net.ua> <1615469901.371427000.i9ukhvlk@frv53.fwdcdn.com> Message-ID: ??, 11 ???. 2021 ? 15:39 Vladimir Sharun ????: > ??????, > > ?????????? ??? ?????????? ?????? ? ???????? ???????? ????????????? ?????? > ???????? ?????????, ??. > > *11 ??????? 2021, 15:37:46, ??? "Oleh Hrynchuk" >:* > > > ?????????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ????? ? ???????? ???????? ????????????? > ? ?????????? ??? ?? ???????? AJAX-???????????... > > ??, 11 ???. 2021 ? 12:02 Alexander V Soroka ????: > > ?????? ! > > ? ? ????????? :) ?????? ? ????? ? ?????? ??????? ????????????? > ??? (???????? ???????-??????????) ??? ??????????. > ??? ????? ???????????? ? ?????, ??? ??????????. > ????? ????????????? ?? ???-??? ?? ??????? (????????? ??????). > ???? ???? ?? ?????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????? ??????? - ???? > ???????, ?? ?? ????????? ?????, ? ??????? ? ?????? ?????? > ??????, ? ?? ??????????????? ????? ? ?????????! > > ? ????? ???? ??? ??? ???? "???????????? ???????" :-) ??????????? ??? > ????? ????? ??????? ? ??????. > ? ????????? ???????? ??????? ?? ????? ?????????, ????????????? ? > ????-?? "??????" :-) ??? AJAX https://ajax.systems/ru-ua/products/ > ??????? ?????? ????? ????????????? ? ???... > > > Thursday, March 11, 2021, 11:46:02 AM, Volodymyr Litovka doka at funlab.cc > you wrote: > VL> ??????, ??? - ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ?? ??? ?? > VL> ?????? ???????????. ? ?????? ? ???? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?? - > VL> ??? ? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????? - ?????, > VL> ???????? ????? ???? ? ???? ??????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ?? ?????????? > ??????? :) > > VL> On 11.03.2021 11:42, Vladimir Sharun wrote: > >> ??????, > >> > >> ??? ??? ??? ????????? ? ???? ?????????. ? ??? ??????: > >> > >> 1. ???????????? ? ????????? ??????? ??????? ??????? > >> 2. ??? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????????, ??????????? ?????. > >> > >> > >> ? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????: ?????? ??? ???????????? > ???. > >> > >> > >> > >> /11 ??????? 2021, 10:36:23, ??? "Volodymyr Litovka" > >:/ > >> > >> ?????? ??, ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? > >> ??? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? - ????? ?????? ???????????? > >> ?????? ? ??????????? ??????????. > >> On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: > >>>> On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?????? ! > >>>> > >>>> ???????? ? ??????. > >>>> ???????? :) > >>> ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. > >>> https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__ > >[0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R > >>> > >>> ???? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? > ?? ???????) > >>> > >>> ??? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. > >>> ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? > ???????? ????? ?????? 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SBG, ?? > ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? > ????) > >>> ??? ? ???? ?????? (???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% ???????. > ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? > ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? > ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? > ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. > >>> OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? > ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? ????????? > ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? ?? ???? > ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? > ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? > ????????????. > >>> ???? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? > ????????????, ?????? 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OVH ???????? ? ?????? ?? > IPO. > >>> ? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. > >>> > >>>> -- >>> Best regards, > >>>> Alexander V Sorokahttp://www.svr.ua/ > >>>> AS106-RIPE > >>>> mailto:alex at euro.net.ua > <159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ > >>>> uanog mailing list > >>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog < > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog> > >>> -- > >>> Taras Heichenko > >>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> uanog mailing list > >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog < > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog> > >> > >> -- > Volodymyr Litovka > >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> uanog mailing list > >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog < > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog> > >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ > AS106-RIPE > mailto:alex at euro.net.ua > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing listuanog at uanog.kiev.uahttps://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"Oleh Hrynchuk" >:* > > > ?????????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ????? ? ???????? ???????? ????????????? > ? ?????????? ??? ?? ???????? AJAX-???????????... > > ??, 11 ???. 2021 ? 12:02 Alexander V Soroka ????: > > ?????? ! > > ? ? ????????? :) ?????? ? ????? ? ?????? ??????? ????????????? > ??? (???????? ???????-??????????) ??? ??????????. > ??? ????? ???????????? ? ?????, ??? ??????????. > ????? ????????????? ?? ???-??? ?? ??????? (????????? ??????). > ???? ???? ?? ?????? ?????????? ? ?????????? ???????? ??????? - ???? > ???????, ?? ?? ????????? ?????, ? ??????? ? ?????? ?????? > ??????, ? ?? ??????????????? ????? ? ?????????! > > ? ????? ???? ??? ??? ???? "???????????? ???????" :-) ??????????? ??? > ????? ????? ??????? ? ??????. > ? ????????? ???????? ??????? ?? ????? ?????????, ????????????? ? > ????-?? "??????" :-) ??? AJAX https://ajax.systems/ru-ua/products/ > ??????? ?????? ????? ????????????? ? ???... > > > Thursday, March 11, 2021, 11:46:02 AM, Volodymyr Litovka doka at funlab.cc > you wrote: > VL> ??????, ??? - ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ?? ??? ?? > VL> ?????? ???????????. ? ?????? ? ???? ??????? ?? ??????????? ?? - > VL> ??? ? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????? - ?????, > VL> ???????? ????? ???? ? ???? ??????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ?? ?????????? > ??????? :) > > VL> On 11.03.2021 11:42, Vladimir Sharun wrote: > >> ??????, > >> > >> ??? ??? ??? ????????? ? ???? ?????????. ? ??? ??????: > >> > >> 1. ???????????? ? ????????? ??????? ??????? ??????? > >> 2. ??? ??? ??? ??????????? ?????????, ??????????? ?????. > >> > >> > >> ? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????: ?????? ??? ???????????? > ???. > >> > >> > >> > >> /11 ??????? 2021, 10:36:23, ??? "Volodymyr Litovka" > >:/ > >> > >> ?????? ??, ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? > >> ??? ? ????? ???? ???????? ??????? - ????? ?????? ???????????? > >> ?????? ? ??????????? ??????????. > >> On 11.03.2021 10:30, Taras Heichenko wrote: > >>>> On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?????? ! > >>>> > >>>> ???????? ? ??????. > >>>> ???????? :) > >>> ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. > >>> https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__ > >[0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R > >>> > >>> ???? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? > ?? ???????) > >>> > >>> ??? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. > >>> ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? > ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? ??????? ???? ??, > ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? > ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? ????????????. > >>> ????????? ?? SBG2 ? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ?? > ?????? ?????, ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? ????? ??? > ????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? ???????. ?? ??????? > ????? ?????? ??????, ?????? ? ????????? ?? (? ??? ???? ??? SBG1, SBG3 ? ?. > ?.) > >>> ????? ???????? ????????? ???? ?? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????, > ????????????? ???? ???? ???????, ????? ???? ????? ???????? ??????? ????? > ?????? ? ???????? ?? ?????? ????????, ?????? ????, ??? ? ???????, > ???????????????? ?????????? ????????, ???? ? ??? ?? ???????????? ???????? > ??????. > >>> ????????? ???????? ??? ?????? ??? ??????, ?? ??????? ????????? ? > ?????????????? ? ?? ???? ????????. ???????? ?????? ????? ????, ?? > ??????????, ? ?????????, ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ???????. > >>> OVH ??????????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ?? ?? ????? ???? > ?????????? ??? ????. ?? ?????? ??????????? ???????? ?? ??????????? ? ??? > ????. ? ???? ?? ????? ??? ????? ?? ????. ???????? ?????????? ? ?????????? > ???????, ??????? ???????? ? ??????. ?? ????????? ?????? ? SBG2 ??????? ???? > ???????? 25-30 ????? (UPD: ?????? ?? ? SBG2, ? ????? ? ???????? SBG, ?? > ???? ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????? ???? ?????? ??????????? ?? ??????? ? > ????) > >>> ??? ? ???? ?????? (???????? ?????) ???? ???-?? ?? 20% ???????. > ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ?? > ?????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? 20% ?????? ????? ?? ???????. ?? ??? ? > ?????? ????????? ????????????? ? ?????????????? ?? ???? ?????????????? > ???????? ?????? ?????????? SBG2. > >>> OVH ?????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????, ??????? ?????? > ??????????? ? ??? ?????????????, ???? ?????. ???? ??? ??????? ????????? > ??????????? ??????? ??????. ?. ?. ????????????? ???. ? ?? ???? > ?????????????, ?? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ?????? ????????? ?????????? > ???????? ????????????? ?? ??????? ??, ? ??? ????? ? ????? ?????? ???????? > ????????????. > >>> ???? ??????? (??? ? ???????) ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? > ????????????, ?????? (??? ? ???????? ???????) ??????-?? ?? ????????, ?? ?? > ???? ??????-??????, ?? ??????? ???? ?????. > >>> ?? ????????? ? ????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ???????? > ???????? ?????? ?? ?????. ?????, ?? ???????? ????????? ??????, ????? ?? ??? > ????????? ????????????????? ???? ???????? ?????? ????-????-??, ???? ?????? > ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ???, ?????? ? ???????, lichess, ?????????? ? OVH > ?????, ??? ????? ?????-?? ??????????? ??????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ?? > ???????? ?????????? ?????? ???? ?????????. ???? ????????????? ???????, > ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ??????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ??? > ???????. > >>> ??? ?? ?????????? ??????: ??? ??? ????? OVH ???????? ? ?????? ?? > IPO. > >>> ? ??????? ??????? ???????? ??????. > >>> > >>>> -- >>> Best regards, > >>>> Alexander V Sorokahttp://www.svr.ua/ > >>>> AS106-RIPE > >>>> mailto:alex at euro.net.ua > <159424714_2834281293487486_2582457638057048544_n.jpg>_______________________________________________ > >>>> uanog mailing list > >>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog < > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog> > >>> -- > >>> Taras Heichenko > >>> tasic at academ.kiev.ua > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> uanog mailing list > >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog < > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog> > >> > >> -- > Volodymyr Litovka > >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> uanog mailing list > >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog < > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog> > >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ > AS106-RIPE > mailto:alex at euro.net.ua > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing listuanog at uanog.kiev.uahttps://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk _______________________________________________ uanog mailing list uanog at uanog.kiev.ua https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tailscale :) ?? ?? ???????? ?????? ??? ?? ???????????, ? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ???????; ? ?? ????? ?????? ????????????. ? ??? ?????? ????????????? ????? ???????????: - ?????????????? ?????????? vpn mesh - ??? ??? Linux? (? ?? ?????????) p.s. ? ??? ???? trial ?? ???? ?????? :-) ? ? ???????? ??? ?????? ?????????? ????? ??? ??????? ? ???? user identity :) (solo/free ??? $10, ???? ????? ???????? ? ?????????????? ????????). https://tailscale.com/pricing/ ??????? ??? ?? ???????, ??? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ??????????? (????????? ??? wireguard-? ???-?-??? ????? NAT traversal). ?? ??????? ??? ?????? ?????????? key management ? ?????????? ?? ????????. > -- > Volodymyr Litovka --igor From doka at funlab.cc Fri Mar 12 09:10:25 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 09:10:25 +0200 Subject: [uanog] nhrp for linux In-Reply-To: <20210312021556.GH42866@rabbit.smph.nest.org> References: <20210312021556.GH42866@rabbit.smph.nest.org> Message-ID: <686f0098-85f2-2de2-39fe-7bebf7ea72e6@funlab.cc> On 12.03.2021 04:15, Igor Sviridov wrote: >> ??????????????, ????? ???-?????? ???????????? ???? ?????????? ?????, >> ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ????? >> >> ?? ?? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??????????? ?????????, ? ????? ????? ??????, >> ???????, ?? ??????, ?? ????? ???? ??????? ???????? > ? ? ?????? ????? ???????? 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Ubiquiti Inc https://rabota.ua/company7111339/vacancy7494586 Will be a plus: *Experience working with Cross Compilers *Experience with OpenWRT *Wireless protocols (802.11) *Basic understanding of electronic circuits -- Best regards, Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ AS106-RIPE mailto:alex at euro.net.ua From maksym at tulyuk.com Sat Mar 13 20:44:25 2021 From: maksym at tulyuk.com (Maksym Tulyuk) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 19:44:25 +0100 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?Q?=D0=9C=D0=B8=D0=B3=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=86=D0=B8=D1=8F_?=OVH =?utf-8?Q?=D0=B2_=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=BE_?=:-) In-Reply-To: <7A3F6C99-27F2-4D12-9DFF-0A1866DC0462@academ.kiev.ua> References: <1415019106.20210311090627@euro.net.ua> <7A3F6C99-27F2-4D12-9DFF-0A1866DC0462@academ.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <65f36aa6-dc0f-4dc9-bfb0-1cdd336d2de7@Spark> 3.6 million websites taken offline after fire at OVH datacenters 10th March, 2021 Around 3.6 million websites across 464,000 distinct domains were taken offline after the major fire at an OVHcloud datacenter site in Strasbourg overnight. More than 18% of the IP addresses attributed to OVH in Netcraft?s most recent Web Server Survey ? which took place two weeks ago ? were no longer responding at 06:00-07:15 UTC this morning. https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2021/03/10/ovh-fire.html Regards, Maksym On 11 Mar 2021, 09:31 +0100, Taras Heichenko , wrote: > > > > On 11 Mar 2021, at 09:06, Alexander V Soroka wrote: > > > > ?????? ! > > > > ???????? ? ??????. > > ???????? :) > > ??? ?????????? ?????????? ?? ?????? subj, IMHO. ?? ??. > https://www.facebook.com/pasungeek/posts/2942181979352724?__cft__[0]=AZUrTSZN67wGYljUlTa8O-jz7YzyZUVOP2DcxDL0dQh_JoPp-RO9YsxF5pwijxxjqQcMUqrHlyp8NVfzs5bGDnEZv706hQCY_V0sWH36474-pweaPWaM46Q0AFii9GeUeh05zphiJJWnhRgd3F-uisPX1z2ERoeZxVxcieZy4zsJ6WNQjWPRQejCgoKIWZFAjMY&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R > > ???? ???? ???? ? ?? ??????, ?? ????? ????. (????? ????? ? ???????? ?? ???????) > > ??? ????? ? OVH ????????, ???? ????. > ??? ????????? ??????, ??? ? ???? ? ??????? ? ?????? ? ??? ? ???????? ????? ?????? OVH-????, ? ??? ????? ?????, ?????? ??????? ???? ??, ?, ???????, ? ???????? ? ??????? ?????????. ?????????? ??? ?????? ? ??????? ? ???? ????????? ???????????????? ????????????. > ????????? ?? SBG2 ? ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ???????????? ????????? ??????????, ????? ????? ??? ????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? ???????. ?? ??????? ????? ?????? ??????, ?????? ? ????????? ?? (? ??? ???? ??? 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Gregory Edigarov From tasic at academ.kiev.ua Thu Mar 18 14:52:08 2021 From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 14:52:08 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LfQsNGC0YPQv9C40Lsg0YEgZGhjcA==?= In-Reply-To: <2fbb1a5b-8ef2-8b40-32e8-5e16991d4e77@qarea.com> References: <2fbb1a5b-8ef2-8b40-32e8-5e16991d4e77@qarea.com> Message-ID: > On 18 Mar 2021, at 14:21, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > > ?????? ????. > > isc-dhcpd. > ????? ??????? ???, ????? ???????????? ???? ??????????? ?????? ?? > ????????, ?????? ? ????????????? ????? ?? ??????? ????? dhcrelay. > ???????? ? ?????? ?? ?????. ?? ?? ?????? ?????? ? man dhcpd.conf ????????, ??? ??? ????? ?????? ??????. ???? ?? ???????? man dhcpd.conf ?? relay, ?? ?????? ????????? ?????? ???????, ??? ????? ?????????? ????? ??? ????? (????, ???????, ?? ????????? ? ??? ???-?????? ?????????). ????? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ?????????? range ? (?? ????) ??? ??? ????? ????????. ????????? ????. :) > > ???????. > > -- > With best regards, > Gregory Edigarov > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Taras Heichenko tasic at academ.kiev.ua From doka at funlab.cc Thu Mar 18 15:28:19 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 15:28:19 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LfQsNGC0YPQv9C40Lsg0YEgZGhjcA==?= In-Reply-To: <2fbb1a5b-8ef2-8b40-32e8-5e16991d4e77@qarea.com> References: <2fbb1a5b-8ef2-8b40-32e8-5e16991d4e77@qarea.com> Message-ID: ? ?????? ????????? ?? relay ?????????????? ????? ? ?????? ? ???????? ????? ? ???????????? ? ???? ??????? On 18.03.2021 14:21, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > ?????? ????. > > isc-dhcpd. > ????? ??????? ???, ????? ???????????? ???? ??????????? ?????? ?? > ????????, ?????? ?? ????????????? ????? ?? ??????? ????? dhcrelay. > ???????? > > ???????. > > -- > With best regards, > ??????? Gregory Edigarov > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Agent option fields in responses sent from servers to clients will be stripped before forwarding such responses back to the client. The agent option field will contain two agent options: the Circuit ID suboption and the Remote ID suboption. Currently, the Circuit ID will be the printable name of the interface on which the client request was received. The client supports inclusion of a Remote ID suboption as well, but this is not used by default. On 18.03.2021 15:28, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > > ? ?????? ????????? ?? relay ?????????????? ????? ? ?????? ? ???????? > ????? ? ???????????? ? ???? ??????? > > On 18.03.2021 14:21, Gregory Edigarov wrote: >> ?????? ????. >> >> isc-dhcpd. >> ????? ??????? ???, ????? ???????????? ???? ??????????? ?????? ?? >> ????????, ?????? ?? ????????????? ????? ?? ??????? ????? dhcrelay. >> ???????? >> >> ???????. >> >> -- >> With best regards, >> ??????? Gregory Edigarov >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doka at funlab.cc Wed Mar 24 17:02:32 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:02:32 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? Message-ID: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> ??????, ???????, ?? ??? ?????????? ?????-?????? ?????? ???? ???????????????? ???????, ????????????? - ???, ????? ? ??????????, ?? ???? ?????????? ?? ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? "??? ??????, ? ?????? - ?????". ?????????? ?????? ???, ??? ????? ????????? ? ?????????? ????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ????????????-???????????? ????? ?? ??????? - ????? ???-???? ?????? ????? ????? ??? ?????? :) Rust ??? Go? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ??????? ?????????? ?????????/???????, ????? ???-???? ???? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ? low-level coding, ? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? :) ?? ???????? -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alex at euro.net.ua Wed Mar 24 17:12:41 2021 From: alex at euro.net.ua (Alexander V Soroka) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:12:41 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> Message-ID: <143755232.20210324171241@euro.net.ua> ?????? ! Piton ??? :-) ?? ???? ?????? ????? ???????? ?????????????. ? ?????? - ? ?? ????????? ?????? ?? ????? ????? ? ? ?????? "????????". ...?????-?? ?????????? ?????????????? ? ??????? ARM & STM32 ??????, ???? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?? ????? ??? ???????????? ??????????... ? ???????? ???? ??? ???-?? ??????? ??????????, ? ?? ???????? ???? ??????????? ??? ????????? ?????????????? :-) ?????? ????-?? ? ????, ????????, ?? ???? ????????? ??? ???? ???????. ...? ?? ????? ? ????? ??? ?????????: https://rabota.ua/company1913126/vacancy8350165 ? ????????? ????? "?????? ?????" ? ??? ? ??????? ???? :-) P.S. Rust ????????. Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 5:02:32 PM, Volodymyr Litovka doka at funlab.cc you wrote: VL> ???????, ?? ??? ?????????? ?????-?????? ?????? ???? VL> ???????????????? ???????, ????????????? - ???, ????? ? ??????????, VL> ?? ???? ?????????? ?? ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? "??? ??????, ? VL> ?????? - ?????". ?????????? ?????? ???, ??? ????? ????????? ? VL> ?????????? ????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ????????????-???????????? ????? ?? VL> ??????? - ????? ???-???? ?????? ????? ????? ??? ?????? :) VL> Rust ??? Go? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ??????? ?????????? VL> ?????????/???????, ????? ???-???? ???? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??? VL> ????? ? low-level coding, ? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? :) VL> ?? ???????? -- Best regards, Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ AS106-RIPE mailto:alex at euro.net.ua From doka at funlab.cc Wed Mar 24 17:18:16 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:18:16 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: <143755232.20210324171241@euro.net.ua> References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> <143755232.20210324171241@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: On 24.03.2021 17:12, Alexander V Soroka wrote: > Piton ??? :-) ?? ???? ?????? ????? ???????? ?????????????. ??? ? ??? ???? ???? :) > ? ???????? ???? ??? ???-?? ??????? ??????????, ? ?? ???????? ???? > ??????????? ??? ????????? ?????????????? :-) ??? ??? ? ??? ??? ??? ???????????? :) ??? ??????????? ???? Ansible, Kubernetes, Jenkins, ? ??? ???, ??? ?? ???? ????? :) > ...? ?? ????? ? ????? ??? ?????????: > https://rabota.ua/company1913126/vacancy8350165 > ? ????????? ????? "?????? ?????" ? ??? ? ??????? ???? :-) ??? ??? ? ?? ???? ? ?????? ????? ? ???????????? -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yz at yz.kiev.ua Wed Mar 24 17:40:55 2021 From: yz at yz.kiev.ua (George L. Yermulnik) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:40:55 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> Message-ID: <20210324154055.GA99770@yz.kiev.ua> Hello! On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 17:02:32 (+0200), Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > Rust ??? Go? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ??????? ?????????? > ?????????/???????, ????? ???-???? ???? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ? > low-level coding, ? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? :) > ?? ???????? Golang. ?? ?? ??????? ?????? ?????????? Rust. ???? ????????? ??????? ???????? ????????????, ??? ????? ??????, ?? ?? Golang. -- George L. Yermulnik [YZ-RIPE] From netch at netch.kiev.ua Wed Mar 24 18:30:18 2021 From: netch at netch.kiev.ua (Valentin Nechayev) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:30:18 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> Message-ID: <20210324163018.GA633539@netch.kiev.ua> Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 17:02:32, doka wrote about "[uanog] Rust or Go?": > ???????, ?? ??? ?????????? ?????-?????? ?????? ???? ???????????????? > ???????, ????????????? - ???, ????? ? ??????????, ?? ???? ?????????? > ?? ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? "??? ??????, ? ?????? - ?????". > ?????????? ?????? ???, ??? ????? ????????? ? ?????????? ????, ?? ? > ?????? ?? ????????????-???????????? ????? ?? ??????? - ????? > ???-???? ?????? ????? ????? ??? ?????? :) > > Rust ??? Go? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ??????? ?????????? > ?????????/???????, ????? ???-???? ???? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??? > ????? ? low-level coding, ? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? :) ?????????? ???? ? ?????. ???????? (??????? ????? ????? ?????????) ? ????? ??????: ? ??? ????????? ?????? ??? ???????????? (? Go - ? ?????????? ?????????? ????????????, ?? ????????). ?????? ???? ????? ????????, ??? ??? ?????????, ?? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ??????? ??????????. ????????? Go: + ???????? ??????? ??????????????, ??????????? ??????? ????????????? ?? ???????????? ????. + ????????????? ???????? ????????? ? ?????? ????. ?? ???? ??? ???? ??????????????? ?????????? ???????????? ????????? ??-?? ????????? ??????????? ???? "??? ??? ????? ??? ?????????? ?? ???? ??????". ???? ???????????? ????? ?? ?????????????? ????. - ????? ???????: ??????????-??????????? ??????????, ???????? ?? ????, ??? ?? ??????? Go ????? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ??? ??????????? ???????. ?????????? ??????????? ??? ??? ????????????, ??????? ??? ?????, ??? ??????, ??? ????????. ?????? ????? ???????????? ??? ??????????. - ?????? ????????? ?? ?????? ???? ??????????? ?????: ??? ????????????? ?????? ? ??????????? ?????? ? ?????????? (????????? ????????? - ??????? ??????????? ?????????, ???? ???? ?????????? ???????????). ? ????????? ??????? ??? ???????????? (???? ???????? ????? ????????? ??????????? ???????? ????, ?? ??? ?? ????, ????????, ??????????? ???????). - ???? ????????? ??????????? ???????????. ?????? ?????????, ?????? ???, ?? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ????? ?? ??? ? ?? ?????. - ?????????????? ??-?? ??????????????? ?????? ?? ?????????? (??? ? Rust, ?? ?? ?????????????? ??????? ? ??????? ?????????? ??? ??????? ??????). ???????? ? ????: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCIF7-2W0AEAv9c.jpg - ???? ???????????? ?????????????, ?? ???????????? ????? ???????????? ?????????? - ????????, ??? ? ???????? ??? ???????? ????? ????????, ??? ????? ????. ???? ?? ?? ???, ?? ??? ?? ??? ? 100 ????????? C :) - ???????? ????????? ? ???? ???? (????????, ???????????????? ?????? ?? ???? ??????????????, ???? ???? ??? ??????? ????? ??? ???????). Rust: ? ????????? ?????? ?????????? ???????: ? ?? ?????? ??? ? C/C++, ? ?? ?????????????? ? GC; ?????? ????? ????????? ???????? ? ?????????????. (? ??????? ?????? ??? ???????????? ????? ???????.) ? ??? ???? ??????????. + ??????? ????? ?????? ???????????? ? ????, ??? ?????? ? ?????????????? ?????? - ??? ????????? ??????? ?? ?????????? ????? ????????, ??????? ?? ?????? ???????? ?????? ? ????????. ? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ? ?????, ????? ???????? ;) ?? ????? ????? ????? ??? ???????? ?????????. ? ????????? ???? ?? ???????????? ? ????????? ???????? (?????????? ?????? - ?????????? ?????? - ????? ??????? ?????? ?? unsafe. ?? generic?? ??????? - ???? ??? ?????? ? ?????? ???????????.) ? ????????? ??????? ??? ????????????. ?? ???? traits (??????? ??????????? Java/C#) ? ???????????? ?? ?????????? ????? ???????. > ?? ???????? ???? ?? ???? ?????, ????? ???? ? Rust. ??????? ?? Go ??????? ?????? ;) -netch- From doka at funlab.cc Wed Mar 24 18:52:52 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:52:52 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: <20210324163018.GA633539@netch.kiev.ua> References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> <20210324163018.GA633539@netch.kiev.ua> Message-ID: On 24.03.2021 18:30, Valentin Nechayev wrote: > ????????? Go: > [ ... ] > > Rust: > [ ... ] ???????. ???, ??? ?? ??? ??? ??????, Rust ????? ?????, ?? ???????? ????????????? ????????? ? C++ :) ???????, ???????, ?????????? ?????? ??????????? ????? ???????: "???????????????? ?? C++ ? ??? ?????? ? ????????. ?? ????????? ??????? ??????????? ? ????? ?? ???? ????, ????? ??????? ??? ??????????? ????? ????????? ????????? ? ?????. C++ ??????? ??????????, ??????????? ? ??????????????? ?????????, ? ??????? ??????????? ?????? ???????. ? ??????? ????? ?????? ? ??????, ??? ???? ? ??????? ???? ??????? ????????, ?? ????? ????????? ?????????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ? ????????, ? ?? ??????? ????????????? ???????? ????-?? ? ?????? ????????? ? ???????? ?? ????????? ???? ? ???????????????? ?????. Rust ???????? ??????? ?? ?? ????? ?? ?????? ?????????? ????????????????." -- https://habr.com/ru/post/344282/#comment_10564406 ??, ?????, ??? ???? Rust. >> ?? ???????? > ???? ?? ???? ?????, ????? ???? ? Rust. ??????? ?? Go ??????? ?????? ;) ??? ??????? ???? - ? ????? ???????? ??????? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ???? :) -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edigarov at qarea.com Wed Mar 24 19:07:20 2021 From: edigarov at qarea.com (Gregory Edigarov) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:07:20 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> Message-ID: <4fa980c3-678b-1bb7-405d-b416d9349523@qarea.com> On 3/24/21 5:02 PM, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > > ??????, > > ???????, ?? ??? ?????????? ?????-?????? ?????? ???? ???????????????? > ???????, ????????????? - ???, ????? ? ??????????, ?? ???? ?????????? > ?? ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? "??? ??????, ? ?????? - ?????". > ?????????? ?????? ???, ??? ????? ????????? ? ?????????? ????, ?? ? > ?????? ?? ????????????-???????????? ????? ?? ??????? - ????? ???-???? > ?????? ????? ????? ??? ?????? :) > > Rust ??? Go? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ??????? ?????????? > ?????????/???????, ????? ???-???? ???? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??? ????? > ? low-level coding, ? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? :) > > ???????? ? ???? ???? ????? ?????????, ?? ???? ?????????? - nim ???? haskel. From doka at funlab.cc Wed Mar 24 19:07:50 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:07:50 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> <20210324163018.GA633539@netch.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <43f993ea-9c1f-d6dd-ddac-d7089748e560@funlab.cc> >>> ?? ???????? >> ???? ?? ???? ?????, ????? ???? ? Rust. ??????? ?? Go ??????? ?????? ;) > > ??? ??????? ???? - ? ????? ???????? ??????? ??? ????? ?????? ?? ???? :) > ??, ?????? ? ??????? "????", ???? ????? ??? ?????????? ???????????? :) -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alex at euro.net.ua Wed Mar 24 19:17:34 2021 From: alex at euro.net.ua (Alexander V Soroka) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:17:34 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: <20210324163018.GA633539@netch.kiev.ua> References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> <20210324163018.GA633539@netch.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <661165593.20210324191734@euro.net.ua> ?????? ! Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 6:30:18 PM, Valentin Nechayev netch at netch.kiev.ua you wrote: VN> Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 17:02:32, doka wrote about "[uanog] Rust or Go?": VN> ?????????? ???? ? ?????. VN> ???????? (??????? ????? ????? ?????????) ? ????? ??????: ? ??? VN> ????????? ?????? ??? ???????????? (? Go - ? ?????????? ?????????? VN> ????????????, ?? ????????). ?????? ???? ????? ????????, ??? ??? VN> ?????????, ?? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ??????? ??????????. Netch - ??????? ?? ??????????? ?????????! ? ?? ????? ????????? ???? ????? ? 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On 24 Mar 2021, 17:30 +0100, Valentin Nechayev , wrote: > Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 17:02:32, doka wrote about "[uanog] Rust or Go?": > > > ???????, ?? ??? ?????????? ?????-?????? ?????? ???? ???????????????? > > ???????, ????????????? - ???, ????? ? ??????????, ?? ???? ?????????? > > ?? ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? "??? ??????, ? ?????? - ?????". > > ?????????? ?????? ???, ??? ????? ????????? ? ?????????? ????, ?? ? > > ?????? ?? ????????????-???????????? ????? ?? ??????? - ????? > > ???-???? ?????? ????? ????? ??? ?????? :) > > > > Rust ??? Go? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ??????? ?????????? > > ?????????/???????, ????? ???-???? ???? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??? > > ????? ? low-level coding, ? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? :) > > ?????????? ???? ? ?????. > ???????? (??????? ????? ????? ?????????) ? ????? ??????: ? ??? > ????????? ?????? ??? ???????????? (? 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Java/C#) ? ???????????? ?? ?????????? ????? ???????. > > > ?? ???????? > > ???? ?? ???? ?????, ????? ???? ? Rust. ??????? ?? Go ??????? ?????? ;) > > > -netch- > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doka at funlab.cc Thu Mar 25 12:31:30 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:31:30 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?RndkOiDQm9C40YfQvdC+0LUg0L/RgNC40LPQu9Cw0Yg=?= =?utf-8?b?0LXQvdC40LUg0L3QsCDQsdC10YHQv9C70LDRgtC90YPRjiDQvtC90LvQsNC5?= =?utf-8?b?0L0g0LrQvtC90YTQtdGA0LXQvdGG0LjRjiBOVklEQSBHVEMyMQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5af55d4d-20f3-a47d-f00d-852d50c5de62@funlab.cc> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ?????? ??????????? ?? ?????????? ?????? ??????????? NVIDA GTC21 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 06:43:33 +0000 ?????????, ?????? ????! ? ?????? 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URL: From maksym at tulyuk.com Thu Mar 25 19:54:43 2021 From: maksym at tulyuk.com (Maksym Tulyuk) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 18:54:43 +0100 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> Message-ID: <0223b73b-46cb-422e-a4ac-14bab9e4b404@Spark> ??????! ??? "????? ????????? ? ?????????? ????? ? ?? ???????????? ???-?? ?? ?????????????? ?????? IMHO ?? "????????????-????????????? ??? ??? JavaScript ??? R+magrittr+dplyr+purrr ???? ???? ?????? ?? ??????????, ?? map, filter, reduce ?????? ?????? ??????? ????????: ????? ??? ?? ?????????? library(magrittr) library(purrr) result <- ?seq(1:10) %>% ?keep(~.x %% 2 == 0) %>% ?map(~.x * 10) %>% ?reduce(`+`) ??? ??? ???: const result = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?.filter(n => n % 2 === 0) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?.map(a => a * 10) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?.reduce((a, b) => a + b); Regards, Maksym On 24 Mar 2021, 16:02 +0100, Volodymyr Litovka , wrote: > ??????, > ???????, ?? ??? ?????????? ?????-?????? ?????? ???? ???????????????? ???????, ????????????? - ???, ????? ? ??????????, ?? ???? ?????????? ?? ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? "??? ??????, ? ?????? - ?????". ?????????? ?????? ???, ??? ????? ????????? ? ?????????? ????, ?? ? ?????? ?? ????????????-???????????? ????? ?? ??????? - ????? ???-???? ?????? ????? ????? ??? ?????? :) > Rust ??? Go? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ??????? ?????????? ?????????/???????, ????? ???-???? ???? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ? low-level coding, ? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? :) > ?? ???????? > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 08:25:23 2021 From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 08:25:23 +0200 Subject: [uanog] transparent proxy sslh & apache2 proxy & ocserv Message-ID: ??????? ???, ??????? ??????. ???????????? ????? ????????? ??????. ????? ??????? ocserv ?? ???????? apache2 proxy (?? ?????? ???????? ??????????? ???-???????? ? ?????-???????????) ?? ?????? 443 ????. ?????, ?? edge router ?????? ??? WAN IP ????????? ???? 443 ????. ??????? ??????? 3 ???????? ? ????????? ?????????? sslh, ?? ???????????????? "mini DPI" ?? ??????? ??? ????? ????????? (? ??????? ???????????? targets ? backend'i ?? ???? ?? ?? ?????). ?? ?????? ????? - ?? ??? ??????? ?? sslh ???????? ???? ???? apache2 proxy ?? ocserv ????????? ?? ???? ???????? ?????? ????????? ??????? LAN? ?? ? ????? ????? transparent sslh proxy ?????, ??? -- Regards, /oleh hrynchuk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com Fri Mar 26 08:38:54 2021 From: oleh.hrynchuk at gmail.com (Oleh Hrynchuk) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 08:38:54 +0200 Subject: [uanog] transparent proxy sslh & apache2 proxy & ocserv In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?? ????, ? ??? Apache2 reverse proxy ?? ?????? ????????? proxy ??? 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URL: From doka at funlab.cc Fri Mar 26 09:14:33 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 09:14:33 +0200 Subject: [uanog] transparent proxy sslh & apache2 proxy & ocserv In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7b0c937a-51a9-d58c-1887-d38c825e9cc7@funlab.cc> https://ocserv.gitlab.io/www/recipes-ocserv-multihost.html On 26.03.2021 08:25, Oleh Hrynchuk wrote: > ??????? ???, ??????? ??????. > > ???????????? ????? ????????? ??????. > ????? ??????? ocserv ?? ???????? apache2 proxy (?? ?????? ???????? > ??????????? ???-?????????? ?????-???????????) ?? ?????? 443 ????. > ?????, ?? edge router ?????? ??? WAN IP ????????? ???? 443 ????. > > ??????? ??????? 3 ???????? ? ????????? ?????????? sslh, ?? > ???????????????? "mini DPI" ?? ??????? ??? ????? ????????? (? ??????? > ???????????? targets ? backend'i ?? ???? ?? ?? ?????). > > ?? ?????? ????? - ?? ??? ??????? ?? sslh ???????? ???? ???? apache2 > proxy ?? ocserv ????????? ?? ???? ???????? ?????? ????????? ??????? > LAN? ?? ? ????? ????? transparent sslh proxy ?????, ??? > > -- > Regards, > /oleh hrynchuk > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rad at rad.kiev.ua Fri Mar 26 12:40:04 2021 From: rad at rad.kiev.ua (Oleksii Radetskyi) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:40:04 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: <0223b73b-46cb-422e-a4ac-14bab9e4b404@Spark> References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> <0223b73b-46cb-422e-a4ac-14bab9e4b404@Spark> Message-ID: ???? ??????! ???-?? ??? ???????, ??? GoLang ???????? ????? ??? ??????? ? ??????? ?????? ? ?????????? ?????? ????. ??, ?? ?????, ?????????? ????????, ?? ?? ????? ??? ???? ??????. ? ??? ???? ?????????? ?????. ?? ??? ??? ??? ????????? ????????. ? ??? ???? ? ?? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ?? ???? ?? ????? ????????, ? ?? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ??. PS. ?????? ?? ??????? ????? ? nodejs/typescript. ????? ????? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ? ???????? ????? (?) :-))) On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 7:55 PM Maksym Tulyuk wrote: > ??????! > > ??? "????? ????????? ? ?????????? ????? ? ?? ???????????? ???-?? ?? > ?????????????? ?????? > > IMHO ?? "????????????-????????????? ??? ??? JavaScript ??? > R+magrittr+dplyr+purrr > > ???? ???? ?????? ?? ??????????, ?? map, filter, reduce ?????? ?????? > ??????? ????????: > > ????? ??? ?? ?????????? > library(magrittr) > library(purrr) > > result <- > seq(1:10) %>% > keep(~.x %% 2 == 0) %>% > map(~.x * 10) %>% > reduce(`+`) > > ??? ??? ???: > const result = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] > .filter(n => n % 2 === 0) > .map(a => a * 10) > .reduce((a, b) => a + b); > > Regards, > Maksym > On 24 Mar 2021, 16:02 +0100, Volodymyr Litovka , wrote: > > ??????, > > ???????, ?? ??? ?????????? ?????-?????? ?????? ???? ???????????????? > ???????, ????????????? - ???, ????? ? ??????????, ?? ???? ?????????? ?? > ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? "??? ??????, ? ?????? - ?????". ?????????? > ?????? ???, ??? ????? ????????? ? ?????????? ????, ?? ? ?????? ?? > ????????????-???????????? ????? ?? ??????? - ????? ???-???? ?????? ????? > ????? ??? ?????? :) > > Rust ??? Go? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ??????? ?????????? > ?????????/???????, ????? ???-???? ???? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ? > low-level coding, ? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? :) > > ?? ???????? > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doka at funlab.cc Fri Mar 26 12:53:04 2021 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:53:04 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> <0223b73b-46cb-422e-a4ac-14bab9e4b404@Spark> Message-ID: ??????, ??????? ????-?? ???????????? ???????????. ???? ?? ?????????? ?????? ???? ???????, ??? ??? ?? ????? "?? ???????? ???-?????? ??????". ???? ??? ?? ????, ? ??? ? ???????? ? ???????, ??? ???????? Rust. ????????????? - ????????? ?????, ??????? ?????? ???????? "Rust - ????????? ???? ?????????? ????????????????; C - ????? ?????????", ????????????, ??? ??, ????? ????????????, ????? ????????? ? ???????. ?????? - ??, ? ?? ????????? 3-4 ?????? ???????? ??????, ??? ?? ?????????? 3-4 ???? :) ??? ?? ????????, ?? ? ????????? ????? ? ??????????? ???????, ??? ?????? ????? ????????????? ????? ??????????? ?????????. ??? ????? - ? ???? ???? ??? ??????? ??????????? ????? ? ?? ?????? ?????????? ????? ???????????. On 26.03.2021 12:40, Oleksii Radetskyi wrote: > ???? ??????! > > ???-?? ??? ???????, ??? GoLang ???????? ????? ??? ??????? ? ??????? > ?????? ? ?????????? ?????? ????. > ??, ?? ?????, ?????????? ????????, ?? ?? ????? ??? ???? ??????. ? ??? > ???? ?????????? ?????. > ?? ??? ??? ??? ????????? ????????. > > ? ??? ???? ? ?? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ?? ??????? ????? ????????, ? > ?? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ??. > > PS. ?????? ?? ??????? ????? ? nodejs/typescript. ????? ????? ???? ?? > ????? ?????? ? ???????? ????? (?) :-))) > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 7:55 PM Maksym Tulyuk > wrote: > > ??????! > > ??? "????? ????????? ? ?????????? ????? ? ?? ???????????? ???-?? > ?? ?????????????? ?????? > > IMHO ?? "????????????-????????????? ??? ??? JavaScript ??? > R+magrittr+dplyr+purrr > > ???? ???? ?????? ?? ??????????, ?? map, filter, reduce ?????? > ?????? ??????? ????????: > > ????? ??? ?? ?????????? > library(magrittr) > library(purrr) > > result <- > ?seq(1:10) %>% > ?keep(~.x %% 2 == 0) %>% > ?map(~.x * 10) %>% > ?reduce(`+`) > > ??? ??? ???: > const result = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?.filter(n => n % 2 === 0) > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?.map(a => a * 10) > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?.reduce((a, b) => a + b); > > Regards, > Maksym > On 24 Mar 2021, 16:02 +0100, Volodymyr Litovka , > wrote: >> >> ??????, >> >> ???????, ?? ??? ?????????? ?????-?????? ?????? ???? >> ???????????????? ???????, ????????????? - ???, ????? ? >> ??????????, ?? ???? ?????????? ?? ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? >> "??? ??????, ? ?????? - ?????". ?????????? ?????? ???, ??? ????? >> ????????? ? ?????????? ????, ?? ? ?????? ?? >> ????????????-???????????? ????? ?? ??????? - ????? ???-???? >> ?????? ????? ????? ??? ?????? :) >> >> Rust ??? Go? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ??????? ?????????? >> ?????????/???????, ????? ???-???? ???? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??? >> ????? ? low-level coding, ? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? :) >> >> ?? ???????? >> >> -- >> Volodymyr Litovka >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rad at rad.kiev.ua Fri Mar 26 13:56:32 2021 From: rad at rad.kiev.ua (Oleksii Radetskyi) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:56:32 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Rust or Go? In-Reply-To: References: <76f785de-74f8-fe9e-7a2e-2e2593c20c44@funlab.cc> <0223b73b-46cb-422e-a4ac-14bab9e4b404@Spark> Message-ID: "???????????? ?????????" - ???, ????, ?++. ??????????? ? ???????????? ?????? ??????. :) On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:53 PM Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > ??????, > > ??????? ????-?? ???????????? ???????????. ???? ?? ?????????? ?????? ???? > ???????, ??? ??? ?? ????? "?? ???????? ???-?????? ??????". ???? ??? ?? > ????, ? ??? ? ???????? ? ???????, ??? ???????? Rust. ????????????? - > ????????? ?????, ??????? ?????? ???????? "Rust - ????????? ???? ?????????? > ????????????????; C - ????? ?????????", ????????????, ??? ??, ????? > ????????????, ????? ????????? ? ???????. > > ?????? - ??, ? ?? ????????? 3-4 ?????? ???????? ??????, ??? ?? ?????????? > 3-4 ???? :) ??? ?? ????????, ?? ? ????????? ????? ? ??????????? ???????, > ??? ?????? ????? ????????????? ????? ??????????? ?????????. ??? ????? - ? > ???? ???? ??? ??????? ??????????? ????? ? ?? ?????? ?????????? ????? > ???????????. > On 26.03.2021 12:40, Oleksii Radetskyi wrote: > > ???? ??????! > > ???-?? ??? ???????, ??? GoLang ???????? ????? ??? ??????? ? ??????? ?????? > ? ?????????? ?????? ????. > ??, ?? ?????, ?????????? ????????, ?? ?? ????? ??? ???? ??????. ? ??? ???? > ?????????? ?????. > ?? ??? ??? ??? ????????? ????????. > > ? ??? ???? ? ?? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ?? ???? ?? ????? ????????, ? ?? > ?????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ??. > > PS. ?????? ?? ??????? ????? ? nodejs/typescript. ????? ????? ???? ?? ????? > ?????? ? ???????? ????? (?) :-))) > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 7:55 PM Maksym Tulyuk wrote: > >> ??????! >> >> ??? "????? ????????? ? ?????????? ????? ? ?? ???????????? ???-?? ?? >> ?????????????? ?????? >> >> IMHO ?? "????????????-????????????? ??? ??? JavaScript ??? >> R+magrittr+dplyr+purrr >> >> ???? ???? ?????? ?? ??????????, ?? map, filter, reduce ?????? ?????? >> ??????? ????????: >> >> ????? ??? ?? ?????????? >> library(magrittr) >> library(purrr) >> >> result <- >> seq(1:10) %>% >> keep(~.x %% 2 == 0) %>% >> map(~.x * 10) %>% >> reduce(`+`) >> >> ??? ??? ???: >> const result = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] >> .filter(n => n % 2 === 0) >> .map(a => a * 10) >> .reduce((a, b) => a + b); >> >> Regards, >> Maksym >> On 24 Mar 2021, 16:02 +0100, Volodymyr Litovka >> , wrote: >> >> ??????, >> >> ???????, ?? ??? ?????????? ?????-?????? ?????? ???? ???????????????? >> ???????, ????????????? - ???, ????? ? ??????????, ?? ???? ?????????? ?? >> ??????, ??? ???? ?????????? "??? ??????, ? ?????? - ?????". ?????????? >> ?????? ???, ??? ????? ????????? ? ?????????? ????, ?? ? ?????? ?? >> ????????????-???????????? ????? ?? ??????? - ????? ???-???? ?????? ????? >> ????? ??? ?????? :) >> >> Rust ??? Go? ????????, ??????? ?????? - ??????? ?????????? >> ?????????/???????, ????? ???-???? ???? ?????????? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ? >> low-level coding, ? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? :) >> >> ?? ???????? >> >> -- >> Volodymyr Litovka >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >> >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing listuanog at uanog.kiev.uahttps://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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