From tasic at academ.kiev.ua Tue Mar 1 00:32:57 2022 From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 00:32:57 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: References: <76FCCA00-5CF9-44AF-BA60-99AE5A74E22E@academ.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <168454B6-793F-496A-846B-042304BF75F8@academ.kiev.ua> > On 28 Feb 2022, at 18:57, Eduard M wrote: > > > ? ????? ??????? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????? ? ????? ??????? > > ? ??? ??????? ????? ????. ??????????, ???????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????????? ??????? ??? ??????, ? ?????? ??????? ?? ????, ???? ?? ???? ???. ???????? ???????? ????????? ?????, ? ?? ????? ?????? ?????. ??? ?? ???? ?? ????????? ?? ?????????? ??? ????? ? ????????. ???????? ????? ???????? ?????, ? ????? ????????? ??????. ?? ? ?? ?????? ????????????, ?? ??????????, ???? ??????? ????????? ???????? ??????, ?? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ???? > > ?? ??? ??? ?????????, ???????????? ???? ???????? :) > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 28 Feb 2022, at 12:07, Taras Heichenko wrote: >> >> ? >> >>> On 28 Feb 2022, at 12:27, VASYL MELNYK wrote: >>> >>> ? ??? ????????????, ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? >>> >>> ???????? ???????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ???????? ??????????, ? ? ??????????? ????? ????????? ????????????. >> >> ???? ?? ?? ? ??? ?? ??????????, ?????? ?????: ??????? >> >>> >>>>> 27 ????. 2022 ?., ? 05:32, Alex Cherevko ???????(?): >>>> >>>> ? >>>> ??????, ?????? ????? ?? ????? list ? ?? ??????? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ? ??????????. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ???? ? ???, ????? ????????? ???????? ? ???????? ? ????? ???????????? 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SSL ?????? ???? ???????? ????????? ????? ?????????? ????????. >>>> >>>> (? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ??? ????? ??????? ??????? ?? ????, ? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????). >>>> >>>> ???? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ???????? ? ???????????? ?? ????????? ????? ????? ? ??????? ?????????? ??????? ?US (company name) take out Russian SSL certificates to destroy russian Internet). >>>> >>>> ?????. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ????? ? ?????? ? ?? ??? ??? ????????? >>>> >>>> ???? ??? ? ?????????? ? ??????????? ???????? >>>> >>>> ??????? ???? ?????? ?? ??? ?????. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ? ?????????, >>>> >>>> ????????? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> uanog mailing list >>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>> _______________________________________________ >>> uanog mailing list >>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >> >> -- >> Taras Heichenko >> tasic at academ.kiev.ua >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Taras Heichenko tasic at academ.kiev.ua From eduard at melnik.org.ua Tue Mar 1 00:51:45 2022 From: eduard at melnik.org.ua (=?UTF-8?B?0K3QtNGD0LDRgNC0INCc0LXQu9GM0L3QuNC6?=) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 23:51:45 +0100 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: <01ef01d82cec$f7bd9350$e738b9f0$@gmail.com> References: <76FCCA00-5CF9-44AF-BA60-99AE5A74E22E@academ.kiev.ua> <01ef01d82cec$f7bd9350$e738b9f0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: ?? ???? ??????? ???? ?? ??? ?????, ?-????? - ?????????????? ??????? ?? ??????????? ? 99% ???????? ??? ??????????? (??? ???????? ? ?????? ? ????????? ? ?.?.) ?????, ?????? ??????? ???????????? ?? ?? ????????????. ?? ?????? ????? ???????? ?????? ?????????? (certificate pinning), ??? ?? ?????? ???????? ?????? ? ?? ???? ??????? ?? ??????? ??????????? ????????? ??????? ???????????? (issuing CA) ??? ???? ? ????????? (????????????) ???????????????? let's encrypt. ?????????? let's enrypt ?? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ??????????? ??? ????? ?????? ???????????? R3 (Issuing CA) ISRG Root X1 - ?? ????????? ?????? ??? ???????? ?????? ????????? ?? ?????. R3 ????? ???????????? ????? ??????????? ????. ?? ??? (let's encypt)? ? ????-???? ???????? ???? ? ? ????-???? ??'?? ??? ? ???? ????????? ???? ? ?????? ? 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On 28/02/2022 22:48, Alex Cherevko wrote: > ??? ?? ????????. ????? ???? ? ??????? ???????????? ??????????? ??????? ????? ??????? ??????? ???????????, ?????, ??? ????? ????? ???? ??????, ??????? ?? ?????? ???????? ???????? ?????? 24/7 ?? ??? ?????????. ????? ???????? ???? ???????????? ????????????, ????????? ? ????? ????? ?????????? ??? ???? ?????????? ?????. ???? ????? ????? ????????? ???????????, ????? ??? ???????? ? ????????? ???????-?? ?? ????? ????????? ??????????? ?????????. > > ? ????? ????, ??? ??????????? ????? ???? ? ???? ?????? ?? ???, ??? ?? ? ??? ? ?? ? ?????, ?????? ???? ????? ??????? ?????? ????, ????? ????????? ?????? ???? ??????????? ?????? ?? ???? ??????????? ???????. ?? ???????? ????????? - ?????? ???? ??????, ???? ?????. > > ?? ????? ?????? ?????? ???????, ?? ?????? ?????? ????????, ????? ?????? ????????????? ? ????????????????? ??????????. ????????? ????????? - ??????, ?? ?? ? ????, ? ??? ?????, ????? ????? ? ??????. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: uanog On Behalf >> Of Eduard M >> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 8:58 AM >> To: Taras Heichenko >> Cc:uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> Subject: Re: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. >> >> >> ? ????? ??????? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????? ? ????? >> ??????? >> >> ? ??? ??????? ????? ????. ??????????, ???????????? ????? ??????? >> ????????? ?????????? >> >> ?? ??? ??? ?????????, ???????????? ???? ???????? :) >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 28 Feb 2022, at 12:07, Taras Heichenko >> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 28 Feb 2022, at 12:27, VASYL MELNYK wrote: >>>> >>>> ? ??? ????????????, ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? >>>> >>>> ???????? ???????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ???????? >> ??????????, ? ? ??????????? ????? ????????? ????????????. >>> ???? ?? ?? ? ??? ?? ??????????, ?????? ?????: ??????? >>> >>>>>> 27 ????. 2022 ?., ? 05:32, Alex Cherevko >> ???????(?): >>>>> >>>>> ??????, ?????? ????? ?? ????? list ? ?? ??????? ?????. ????? ?? >> ??? ???????? ??? ??? ? ??????????. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ???? ? ???, ????? ????????? ???????? ? ???????? ? ????? >> ???????????? 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On 28/02/2022 23:32, Taras Heichenko wrote: > >> On 28 Feb 2022, at 18:57, Eduard M wrote: >> >> >> ? ????? ??????? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????? ? ????? ??????? >> >> ? ??? ??????? ????? ????. ??????????, ???????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????????? > ??????? ??? ??????, ? ?????? ??????? ?? ????, ???? ?? ???? ???. ???????? ???????? ????????? ?????, ? ?? > ????? ?????? ?????. ??? ?? ???? ?? ????????? ?? ?????????? ??? ????? ? ????????. ???????? ????? ???????? > ?????, ? ????? ????????? ??????. ?? ? ?? ?????? ????????????, ?? ??????????, ???? ??????? ????????? > ???????? ??????, ?? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ???? > >> ?? ??? ??? ?????????, ???????????? ???? ???????? :) >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 28 Feb 2022, at 12:07, Taras Heichenko wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> >>>> On 28 Feb 2022, at 12:27, VASYL MELNYK wrote: >>>> >>>> ? ??? ????????????, ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? >>>> >>>> ???????? ???????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ???????? ??????????, ? ? ??????????? ????? ????????? ????????????. >>> ???? ?? ?? ? ??? ?? ??????????, ?????? ?????: ??????? >>> >>>>>> 27 ????. 2022 ?., ? 05:32, Alex Cherevko ???????(?): >>>>> ? >>>>> ??????, ?????? ????? ?? ????? list ? ?? ??????? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ? ??????????. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ???? ? ???, ????? ????????? ???????? ? ???????? ? ????? ???????????? 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[ https://epicentrk.ua/ua/info/contacts/ ] -- Best regards, Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ AS106-RIPE mailto:alex at euro.net.ua From tasic at academ.kiev.ua Thu Mar 3 21:43:25 2022 From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 21:43:25 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0J/RgNC+0L/QvtC30LjRhtGW0Y8g0LTQvtC/0L7QvNC+?= =?utf-8?b?0LPQuA==?= Message-ID: ?????? ????, ???????? ???????? ??????????? ????????? ???????? ? ??????????? https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-list/2022-March/002471.html -- Taras Heichenko tasic at academ.kiev.ua From mp at disan.net Thu Mar 3 22:37:45 2022 From: mp at disan.net (Mike Petrusha) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 21:37:45 +0100 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrRg9C/0LjRgtGMIElQLdCw0LTRgNC10YHQvtCy?= In-Reply-To: <5286f86f-fbf3-9cf4-d669-ef66c9d4a2d4@netassist.kiev.ua> References: <65e0116b-fb0d-b407-8f80-362d93bf6a9f@funlab.cc> <1732215853.20220223111912@euro.net.ua> <0DDC39FF-87CC-4F78-A38F-07F6D5856D59@academ.kiev.ua> <96110058-C152-4E8C-8FF4-C3C4C1282FA7@academ.kiev.ua> <5286f86f-fbf3-9cf4-d669-ef66c9d4a2d4@netassist.kiev.ua> Message-ID: ????? ?????? ???? ???, ??? ???? ???????. -- Mike > > ???? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? - ?? 1000 ???? ????? + 1400 ???? ? ??? = > ????? LIR ? /24 =) > > ?? ???? ????? ??????, ???? ????. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vpodgorny at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 02:00:08 2022 From: vpodgorny at gmail.com (Volodymyr O. Pidgornyi) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 02:00:08 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrRg9C/0LjRgtGMIElQLdCw0LTRgNC10YHQvtCy?= In-Reply-To: References: <65e0116b-fb0d-b407-8f80-362d93bf6a9f@funlab.cc> <1732215853.20220223111912@euro.net.ua> <0DDC39FF-87CC-4F78-A38F-07F6D5856D59@academ.kiev.ua> <96110058-C152-4E8C-8FF4-C3C4C1282FA7@academ.kiev.ua> <5286f86f-fbf3-9cf4-d669-ef66c9d4a2d4@netassist.kiev.ua> Message-ID: ???? ??? ?????? ???????-2022 ??????????? ?????????? ???????-??????? ??????. LIR ???????? ???? LIR-?? ???????? 90 ???? ????????. ??? ????? ?? /24 ????????? ????????... 03.03.2022 22:37, Mike Petrusha ?????: > > ????? ?????? ???? ???, ???????? ???????. > > > -- > Mike > > > > > ???? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? - ?? 1000 ???? ????? + 1400 ???? ? > ??? = > ????? LIR ? /24 =) > > ?? ???? ????? ??????, ???? ????. > > > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog From mp at disan.net Fri Mar 4 08:43:31 2022 From: mp at disan.net (Mike Petrusha) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 07:43:31 +0100 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrRg9C/0LjRgtGMIElQLdCw0LTRgNC10YHQvtCy?= In-Reply-To: References: <65e0116b-fb0d-b407-8f80-362d93bf6a9f@funlab.cc> <1732215853.20220223111912@euro.net.ua> <0DDC39FF-87CC-4F78-A38F-07F6D5856D59@academ.kiev.ua> <96110058-C152-4E8C-8FF4-C3C4C1282FA7@academ.kiev.ua> <5286f86f-fbf3-9cf4-d669-ef66c9d4a2d4@netassist.kiev.ua> Message-ID: ??????? ?????????? ? ?????? 600-? ? ?????. https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/ipv4/ipv4-waiting-list ?? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ?? ????????, ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ????. https://www.ripe.net/participate/member-support/payment/ripe-ncc-billing-procedure-2022 ?? 90 ????, ? 120. ? ????? https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-775 ??? ?? ??? ?????? ?? ???????????? (?? ??????). ???? https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-management/quarantine-for-returned-internet-number-resources ?? ????? ???????. -- Mike On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 01:00, Volodymyr O. Pidgornyi wrote: > ???? ??? ?????? ???????-2022 ??????????? ?????????? ???????-??????? > ??????. LIR ???????? ???? LIR-?? ???????? 90 ???? ????????. ??? ????? ?? > /24 ????????? ????????... > > 03.03.2022 22:37, Mike Petrusha ?????: > > > > ????? ?????? ???? ???, ??? ???? ???????. > > > > > > -- > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > ???? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? - ?? 1000 ???? ????? + 1400 ???? ? > > ??? = > > ????? LIR ? /24 =) > > > > ?? ???? ????? ??????, ???? ????. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > uanog mailing list > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vpodgorny at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 09:45:49 2022 From: vpodgorny at gmail.com (Volodymyr O. Pidgornyi) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 09:45:49 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0LrRg9C/0LjRgtGMIElQLdCw0LTRgNC10YHQvtCy?= In-Reply-To: References: <65e0116b-fb0d-b407-8f80-362d93bf6a9f@funlab.cc> <1732215853.20220223111912@euro.net.ua> <0DDC39FF-87CC-4F78-A38F-07F6D5856D59@academ.kiev.ua> <96110058-C152-4E8C-8FF4-C3C4C1282FA7@academ.kiev.ua> <5286f86f-fbf3-9cf4-d669-ef66c9d4a2d4@netassist.kiev.ua> Message-ID: ??????. ? ??? ??? ???????? ???????? :) 04.03.2022 08:43, Mike Petrusha ?????: > ??????? ???????????? ?????? 600-? ? ?????. > https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/ipv4/ipv4-waiting-list > ?? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ?? ????????, ?????? ??????? ?? ??????? ????. > https://www.ripe.net/participate/member-support/payment/ripe-ncc-billing-procedure-2022 > > ?? 90?????, ? 120. ? ????? https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-775 > ??? ?? ??? ?????? ?? ???????????? (?? ??????). > ???? > https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-management/quarantine-for-returned-internet-number-resources > > ?? ????? ???????. > > -- > Mike > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 01:00, Volodymyr O. Pidgornyi > wrote: > > ???? ??? ?????? ???????-2022 ??????????? ?????????? ???????-??????? > ??????. LIR ???????? ???? LIR-?? ???????? 90 ???? ????????. ??? > ????? ?? > /24 ????????? ????????... > > 03.03.2022 22:37, Mike Petrusha ?????: > > > > ????? ?????? ???? ???, ???????? ???????. > > > > > > -- > > Mike > > > > > > > > > >? ? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? - ?? 1000 ???? ????? + 1400 > ???? ? > >? ? ???? = > >? ? ?????? LIR ? /24 =) > > > >? ? ??? ???? ????? ??????, ???? ????. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > uanog mailing list > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > From maksym at tulyuk.com Fri Mar 4 12:03:10 2022 From: maksym at tulyuk.com (Maksym Tulyuk) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 11:03:10 +0100 Subject: [uanog] Fwd: Re: [ENOG discuss] A request to terminate ENOG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0a7b8e53-22dc-4bc4-ace4-3d00791104e7@Spark> Colleagues, Unfortunately I do not subscribe to the RIPE mail list and I would appreciate if one of you who is subscribed to it forward my email there. Best withes, Maksym ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Maksym Tulyuk Date: 4 Mar 2022, 10:53 +0100 To: exec-board at ripe.net, RIPE Programme Committee Cc: Members Discuss , ENOG Programme Committee , Alex Semenyaka , T?ma Gavrichenkov , discuss at enog.org Subject: Re: [ENOG discuss] A request to terminate ENOG > Dear RIPE Executive board and Programme Committee, > > I, Maksym Tulyuk, a former member of ENOG programme committee, completely and unquestioningly support the idea of termination of ENOG. > > In addition to what T?ma Gavrichenkov wrote in his email I would like to share my experience and thoughts as the former ENOG PC member. > > In my opinion, ENOG did not die at 24 February 2022 - it died in 2014 when, after Russian annexation of Crimea, Ukrainian ENOG community completely ignored ENOG 7 conference in Moscow and it was represented by two Ukrainians (who de-facto worked for Dutch and Russian companies). > > Today I feel guilt and shame that I did not use my position of the member of Program Committee to turn the attention to that fact and, as a result, we have the same situation in 2022: Russian Army is attacking (again) Ukraine and RIPE NCC (again) continues organising regional meeting ENOG 19 in Moscow at 20-21 June 2022 - see the attached copy of ENOG website. > > I encourage RIPE Executive board and Programme Committee be more brave that I was and terminate ENOG and here I would like to highlight the usage of the verb ?terminate? not ?postpone?. > > P.S. Also, I encourage former and current members of ENOG Programme Committee support the idea of T?ma Gavrichenkov, Alex Semenyaka and Maksym Tulyuk and publicly ask about ENOG dissolution > > Yours sincerely, > Maksym Tulyuk > On 3 Mar 2022, 23:47 +0100, Alex Semenyaka , wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > > > I agree that the united community with horizontal?links does not exist anymore. > > Thus, let me step down from the position of the ENOG PC Vice-Chair. > > Thank you. > > > > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 12:44 AM T?ma Gavrichenkov wrote: > > > > Peace, > > > > (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever be, ? > > > > because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace) > > > > > > > > As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network Operators > > > > Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that the RIPE > > > > Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the potential > > > > future meetings indefinitely. > > > > > > > > Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE > > > > Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating Ukrainian, > > > > Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other regional > > > > communities in the hope of building a better shared Internet space > > > > among the communities. > > > > > > > > In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the said > > > > "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it could be > > > > clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme for all > > > > the distinct and divided communities colloqually recognized as ENOG at > > > > the time. > > > > > > > > Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this should've > > > > gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we currently have > > > > several PC members under ongoing _missile attacks_, and I therefore > > > > don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote in the PC. > > > > > > > > Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't believe > > > > I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE Service Region > > > > to still invest trust in me, without further due diligence, to hold > > > > any official community position in the RIPE community; therefore, I > > > > hereby step down as the PC Chair. > > > > > > > > It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to decide > > > > on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to act.? It > > > > is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any future > > > > alignments to replace ENOG. > > > > > > > > Stay safe. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > T?ma > > > > > > -- > > Alex Semenyaka > > _______________________________________________ > > discuss mailing list > > discuss at enog.org > > https://lists.enog.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maksym at tulyuk.com Fri Mar 4 19:26:45 2022 From: maksym at tulyuk.com (Maksym Tulyuk) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 18:26:45 +0100 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. 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On 4 Mar 2022, 20:10 +0100, VASYL MELNYK , wrote: > > cogent ??? ????????? > https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/04/russia-ukraine-internet-cogent-cutoff/ > > > ??, 4 ???. 2022 ?. ? 19:27, Maksym Tulyuk : > > > ??? ???????? ???????????? ??? ?????????: > > > 1) ?????? ?? ?????????????? ???????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????????? > > > 2) ??????????? ?????? ? ??????? ?? (???????? ??????, ???????, ??????, ?????????), ????? ??? ????????? ????????????? ???????/DWDM/fibre ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????????? > > > 3) ???????? ?????????? ??????? ? ????????? ????????, ??????? ????????????? ??? ??????????? ????? ???????? ?????? (????? ? ?????? ??? ????? ??????: Transit/Roaming/Colocation/ Cloud/DNS/Hosting/etc) > > > > > > ??????, ??? ???????? ??????? ????? ? ?????????? ?????????: > > > 1) Tier 1 ? IX ?????? blackhole ?? ??? ?????????? ???????? > > > 2) ?????? .ru/.?? ????????? ?? 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HTTPS 100% ?? ??????? ???????? ? ????? ?????. ????? ?? ?????? ??????? ???????, ???????????? ?????????? ?????????, ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ?? ????, ??? ???????? ?? ?????. > > > > > > > > ?????, ??? ???????, ?? ?????????? ???????????????? ?? ???? ??? ??? ?????. > > > > > > > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ? ???, ??? ???-?? ?? ??????????????? ???? ???-?? ?????? ?????????, ? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ??? ??????????, ???? ????? ?? ??????? ??????? ????????. ????? ???????? ? ?????? ???????? ? ???? ?????? ???????? ?? ????????? ??????????. > > > > > > > > ? ?????????, > > > > ????????? > > > > > > > > From: VASYL MELNYK > > > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:27 AM > > > > To: Alex Cherevko > > > > Cc: uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > > > Subject: Re: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. > > > > > > > > ? ??? ????????????, ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? > > > > > > > > ???????? ???????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ???????? ??????????, ? ? ??????????? ????? ????????? ????????????. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 ????. 2022??., ? 05:32, Alex Cherevko ???????(?): > > > > > ??????, ?????? ????? ?? ????? list ? ?? ??????? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ? ??????????. > > > > > > > > > > ???? ? ???, ????? ????????? ???????? ? ???????? ? ????? ???????????? 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URL: From vladimir.sharun at ukr.net Sun Mar 6 17:01:52 2022 From: vladimir.sharun at ukr.net (Vladimir Sharun) Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2022 17:01:52 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: <6dbdcced-af74-493a-b5c3-c39dcbb47dc9@Spark> References: <00c801d82b8a$90f2c4a0$b2d84de0$@gmail.com> <01e701d82ceb$d5d8edd0$818ac970$@gmail.com> <002a3919-c7bc-42f1-8db8-bd9befd52276@Spark> <6dbdcced-af74-493a-b5c3-c39dcbb47dc9@Spark> Message-ID: <1646578816.668011000.thjnwpv2@frv53.fwdcdn.com> ??????, ???? ??????????, ??? ?????? ????? "?????? ?????????" ??? "???????????? ??????? ?? ????????" - ? ???? ????? ???? ? ????????? ? Network Solutions. ????? ???????? - ??????? ? ???????? ?/??? ????????.? 6 ??????? 2022, 16:53:43, ??? "Maksym Tulyuk" : ?? ??????????????? ?? ??????????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ? ???????? ???? ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????? ??, ??? ?????? Cogent - ????????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ????????: Tier 1: AS1239 - T-Mobile US (Sprint) AS1273 - Vodafone Group PLC AS1299 - Arelion (Telia) AS3356 - Lumen (Level 3) AS3491 - PCCW Global, Inc. AS6453 - TATA COMMUNICATIONS AS6461 - Zayo Bandwidth AS6762 - TELECOM ITALIA SPARKLE S.p.A. AS6939 - Hurricane Electric LLC ?????????? IX: AMS-IX BBIX DE-CIX Equinix France-IX HKIX LINX Netnod PLIX ?????? On 4 Mar 2022, 20:10 +0100, VASYL MELNYK , wrote: cogent ??? ????????? https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/04/russia-ukraine-internet-cogent-cutoff/ ??, 4 ???. 2022 ?. ? 19:27, Maksym Tulyuk : ??? ???????? ???????????? ??? ?????????: 1) ?????? ?? ?????????????? ???????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????????? 2) ??????????? ?????? ? ??????? ?? 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From: VASYL MELNYK Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:27 AM To: Alex Cherevko Cc: uanog at uanog.kiev.ua Subject: Re: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. ? ??? ????????????, ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ???????? ???????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ???????? ??????????, ? ? ??????????? ????? ????????? ????????????. 27 ????. 2022??., ? 05:32, Alex Cherevko ???????(?): ??????, ?????? ????? ?? ????? list ? ?? ??????? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ? ??????????. ???? ? ???, ????? ????????? ???????? ? ???????? ? ????? ???????????? DNS ???????, ??? ???????, ? ?????? (????????, ?????? ? ?.?.) + ???????? ? (intermidiate) SSL ???????????. ? ?????? ? ????? ? ?????? ?? ?????. ??????? ???: ????????? ????? ??????????? (?? ??????? ??? ?? ? ????? ????????), ?? ??????? ?? ???????? ???????? ssl ???????????. ???? ???? - ????????? ? ???'????, ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ??? ? ????? ??????????? ???? ??? ??????? 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URL: From mvasilenko at gmail.com Sun Mar 6 22:55:25 2022 From: mvasilenko at gmail.com (Mikhail Vasilenko) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2022 21:55:25 +0100 Subject: [uanog] colocation in Lviv Message-ID: Hi, guys ???????? ? ??????????? ?? ?????? 12 1U ???????? ? ?? ??????????? ? ??????? AS /24 BGP ? UA/???. ?????????? ??????? +380968487126 ????? ??????? -- Mikhail Vasilenko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alex at euro.net.ua Tue Mar 8 10:43:43 2022 From: alex at euro.net.ua (Alexander V Soroka) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:43:43 +0200 Subject: [uanog] DNS ? Message-ID: <388095571.20220308104343@euro.net.ua> ?????? ! ????? ?????: ?? ??????? ???????? ?????? ? ??????????????, ??? ?? ???????? ? ????? ????? www.facebook.com. ???? ??? ?????????, ?????????????? ???????????? "??????????? ????? Windows". DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN ??? ?? ???? ??????????? (???????? ????) ?????????? ??? ??? ... *gov.ua ???? ?? ???? ???????. -- Best regards, Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ AS106-RIPE mailto:alex at euro.net.ua From minotaur at crete.org.ua Tue Mar 8 16:49:20 2022 From: minotaur at crete.org.ua (Alexander Shikov) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 16:49:20 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: <6dbdcced-af74-493a-b5c3-c39dcbb47dc9@Spark> References: <00c801d82b8a$90f2c4a0$b2d84de0$@gmail.com> <01e701d82ceb$d5d8edd0$818ac970$@gmail.com> <002a3919-c7bc-42f1-8db8-bd9befd52276@Spark> <6dbdcced-af74-493a-b5c3-c39dcbb47dc9@Spark> Message-ID: <20220308144920.GA90577@crete.itcons.net.ua> ??????. ????? ?????? ? ????? ?????????? ?? ?? Internet ?????? ?? ?????. ??? ????????? ???? ???????? ? ??????? CEO Internet Society https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/03/why-the-world-must-resist-calls-to-undermine-the-internet/ ??????? ????????? ??????? ?? ??????????. members-discuss at ripe.net ????? ???????? ????????, ??????????? ????????? ???????? ??????? ? ??? ?????. ???? ?? RIPE ???? ????? ???. LIR?? ????? ??????. ???? ???? ??? ???????? ? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? - ?? ??????. "???????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ????????? ?????? ??????????". ???????????? ??????? ????. ?? Cogent: ?????? ? WP - 4 ?????, ??????? ???????. ?????? ?? ??????????, ?????????? ??-???????? ????? ?? LG Cogent ? LP 130 (All customer routes announced to Cogent will have a local pref of 130): Tue Mar 8 14:39:33.368 UTC BGP routing table entry for 87.226.128.0/17 Versions: Process bRIB/RIB SendTblVer Speaker 1265684446 1265684446 Last Modified: Feb 27 01:57:56.088 for 1w2d Paths: (1 available, best #1) Advertised IPv4 Unicast paths to peers (in unique update groups): 38.5.0.99 Path #1: Received by speaker 0 Advertised IPv4 Unicast paths to peers (in unique update groups): 38.5.0.99 12389 38.28.1.238 (metric 103030) from 38.28.1.83 (38.28.1.238) Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 130, valid, internal, best, group-best, import-candidate Received Path ID 0, Local Path ID 1, version 1265684446 Community: 174:11401 174:20999 174:21101 174:22005 Originator: 38.28.1.238, Cluster list: 38.28.1.83, 38.28.1.67 ??????????? ?????? ???. ????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? - ????????????? ?????: UDP DDoS-?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????, ?????? ?????????? ISP ?? ??????????. ? ???? ???? ??? ????, ??? ? ???? ??????, ????? ?????-internet-??? ??????????? ???????? ?????. On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 15:53:20 +0100, Maksym Tulyuk wrote: > ?? ??????????????? ?? ??????????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ? ???????? ???? ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????? ??, ??? ?????? Cogent - ????????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ????????: > > Tier 1: > AS1239 - T-Mobile US (Sprint) > AS1273 - Vodafone Group PLC > AS1299 - Arelion (Telia) > AS3356 - Lumen (Level 3) > AS3491 - PCCW Global, Inc. > AS6453 - TATA COMMUNICATIONS > AS6461 - Zayo Bandwidth > AS6762 - TELECOM ITALIA SPARKLE S.p.A. > AS6939 - Hurricane Electric LLC > > ?????????? IX: > AMS-IX > BBIX > DE-CIX > Equinix > France-IX > HKIX > LINX > Netnod > PLIX > > ?????? > On 4 Mar 2022, 20:10 +0100, VASYL MELNYK , wrote: > > > > cogent ??? ????????? > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/04/russia-ukraine-internet-cogent-cutoff/ > > > > > ??, 4 ???. 2022 ?. ? 19:27, Maksym Tulyuk : > > > > ??? ???????? ???????????? ??? ?????????: > > > > 1) ?????? ?? ?????????????? ???????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????????? > > > > 2) ??????????? ?????? ? ??????? ?? (???????? ??????, ???????, ??????, ?????????), ????? ??? ????????? ????????????? ???????/DWDM/fibre ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????????? > > > > 3) ???????? ?????????? ??????? ? ????????? ????????, ??????? ????????????? ??? ??????????? ????? ???????? ?????? (????? ? ?????? ??? ????? ??????: Transit/Roaming/Colocation/ Cloud/DNS/Hosting/etc) > > > > > > > > ??????, ??? ???????? ??????? ????? ? ?????????? ?????????: > > > > 1) Tier 1 ? IX ?????? blackhole ?? ??? ?????????? ???????? > > > > 2) ?????? .ru/.?? ????????? ?? Root DNS servers > > > > 3) ?????????? inetnum, inet6num, route, route6 objects ????????? ?? RIPE db > > > > 4) ?????????? route ? route6 ??????????? invalid ? RIPE?????? RPKI > > > > ?????????? ? ???? ? ????? ?????? ???, ?? ????? ?????? ? ?????????? ???????????? ???????, ???? ???-?? ????? ?????????? ? ???????? ? ???????? ??? ? ??" > > > > > > > > ???, ? ?? ????? ? ???: ??????????? ????? ??? 1) ????? 2) ????????? 3) ??????????. ????? ?? ??????????? ????????? ?????? ???????? ????? ? ?????, ? ?????????? ? ??????? ? ?????? ???????? ???? ? ?????????????? ? ??? ????????? ? ????????? ? ????????? ????? > > > > > > > > ???????? ?????: ???? ?????? ?????? ??????? ???????????? ????? - ?? ? ?????????? ??????, ? ?????-??????? ???????????. > > > > > > > > ???? ???-?? ??????, ??? ??? ?????????, ?? 23 ??????? 2022 ????????? ????? ? ??????????? ???? ???????? ???????????. > > > > > > > > ?????? > > > > On 28 Feb 2022, 22:40 +0100, Alex Cherevko , wrote: > > > > > ? ??? ???????????? ?? ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ???????? ????????? ???????? ??? ??? ?????????? ???????? ????????, ??????? ?? ????? ?????? ?????? ????. > > > > > ???? - ??? ????? ?????? ????????? ?? ??????? ? ???????? ???. > > > > > > > > > > ????? ???????? ?????? ??????? ????????????? ? ?????? ? ?????? ??????, ??? ? ?????????? HTTPS 100% ?? ??????? ???????? ? ????? ?????. ????? ?? ?????? ??????? ???????, ???????????? ?????????? ?????????, ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ?? ????, ??? ???????? ?? ?????. > > > > > > > > > > ?????, ??? ???????, ?? ?????????? ???????????????? ?? ???? ??? ??? ?????. > > > > > > > > > > ? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ? ???, ??? ???-?? ?? ??????????????? ???? ???-?? ?????? ?????????, ? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ??? ??????????, ???? ????? ?? ??????? ??????? ????????. ????? ???????? ? ?????? ???????? ? ???? ?????? ???????? ?? ????????? ??????????. > > > > > > > > > > ? ?????????, > > > > > ????????? > > > > > > > > > > From: VASYL MELNYK > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:27 AM > > > > > To: Alex Cherevko > > > > > Cc: uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > > > > Subject: Re: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. > > > > > > > > > > ? ??? ????????????, ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? > > > > > > > > > > ???????? ???????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ???????? ??????????, ? ? ??????????? ????? ????????? ????????????. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27 ????. 2022??., ? 05:32, Alex Cherevko ???????(?): > > > > > > ??????, ?????? ????? ?? ????? list ? ?? ??????? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ? ??????????. > > > > > > > > > > > > ???? ? ???, ????? ????????? ???????? ? ???????? ? ????? ???????????? DNS ???????, ??? ???????, ? ?????? (????????, ?????? ? ?.?.) + ???????? ? (intermidiate) SSL ???????????. > > > > > > ? ?????? ? ????? ? ?????? ?? ?????. > > > > > > > > > > > > ??????? ???: > > > > > > > > > > > > ????????? ????? ??????????? (?? ??????? ??? ?? ? ????? ????????), ?? ??????? ?? ???????? ???????? ssl ???????????. ???? ???? - ????????? ? ???'????, ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ??? ? ????? ??????????? ???? ??? ??????? SSL ?????? ???? ???????? ????????? ????? ?????????? ????????. > > > > > > (? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ??? ????? ??????? ??????? ?? ????, ? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????). > > > > > > ???? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ???????? ? ???????????? ?? ????????? ????? ????? ? ??????? ?????????? ??????? ?US (company name) take out Russian SSL certificates to destroy russian Internet). > > > > > > ?????. > > > > > > > > > > > > ????? ? ?????? ? ?? ??? ??? ????????? > > > > > > ???? ??? ? ?????????? ? ??????????? ???????? > > > > > > ??????? ???? ?????? ?? ??? ?????. > > > > > > > > > > > > ? ?????????, > > > > > > ????????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > uanog mailing list > > > > > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > > > > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > uanog mailing list > > > > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > > > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > uanog mailing list > > > > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > > > > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog From tasic at academ.kiev.ua Tue Mar 8 18:21:17 2022 From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 18:21:17 +0200 Subject: [uanog] DNS ? In-Reply-To: <388095571.20220308104343@euro.net.ua> References: <388095571.20220308104343@euro.net.ua> Message-ID: <9D0F22D7-5A1B-40AC-9CE9-F1A22B380514@academ.kiev.ua> > On 8 Mar 2022, at 10:43, Alexander V Soroka wrote: > > ?????? ! Hi! ?? ???????? ????????? ?? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ?? ? ???? ?????????? ??????. ?? ?? ?? "?? ??????? ???????"? > > ????? ?????: > ?? ??????? ???????? ?????? ? ??????????????, ??? ?? ???????? ? ????? ????? www.facebook.com. > ???? ??? ?????????, ?????????????? ???????????? "??????????? ????? Windows". > DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN > > ??? ?? ???? ??????????? (???????? ????) > ?????????? ??? ??? ... > *gov.ua ???? ?? ???? ???????. > > -- > Best regards, > Alexander V Soroka http://www.svr.ua/ > AS106-RIPE > mailto:alex at euro.net.ua > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Taras Heichenko tasic at academ.kiev.ua From tasic at academ.kiev.ua Tue Mar 8 18:25:08 2022 From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 18:25:08 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: <20220308144920.GA90577@crete.itcons.net.ua> References: <00c801d82b8a$90f2c4a0$b2d84de0$@gmail.com> <01e701d82ceb$d5d8edd0$818ac970$@gmail.com> <002a3919-c7bc-42f1-8db8-bd9befd52276@Spark> <6dbdcced-af74-493a-b5c3-c39dcbb47dc9@Spark> <20220308144920.GA90577@crete.itcons.net.ua> Message-ID: <2D8FD38D-CB33-4AF1-A432-BC916D1183A6@academ.kiev.ua> > On 8 Mar 2022, at 16:49, Alexander Shikov wrote: > > ??????. > [???? ?????? ??????????] > > ??????????? ?????? ???. ????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? - ????????????? ?????: > UDP DDoS-?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????, ?????? ?????????? ISP ?? ??????????. > > ? ???? ???? ??? ????, ??? ? ???? ??????, ????? ?????-internet-??? ??????????? > ???????? ?????. ????????? ???? ??????, ? ??? ????? ????? ??????, ??? ??????? ?? ?????. ??? ?? ?????? ?????????????? ????????? ??????????? ????????? ???? ? ??? ????, ??? ?? ????????? ??????????? ????????? ??????????? ??? ??, ??????? ? ??? ?????????? ?????? ???. ???, ?? ?? ???? ??????? ?????, ??? ????? ???, ??? ????. > > On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 15:53:20 +0100, Maksym Tulyuk wrote: >> ?? ??????????????? ?? ??????????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ? ???????? ???? ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????? ??, ??? ?????? Cogent - ????????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ????????: >> >> Tier 1: >> AS1239 - T-Mobile US (Sprint) >> AS1273 - Vodafone Group PLC >> AS1299 - Arelion (Telia) >> AS3356 - Lumen (Level 3) >> AS3491 - PCCW Global, Inc. >> AS6453 - TATA COMMUNICATIONS >> AS6461 - Zayo Bandwidth >> AS6762 - TELECOM ITALIA SPARKLE S.p.A. >> AS6939 - Hurricane Electric LLC >> >> ?????????? IX: >> AMS-IX >> BBIX >> DE-CIX >> Equinix >> France-IX >> HKIX >> LINX >> Netnod >> PLIX >> >> ?????? >> On 4 Mar 2022, 20:10 +0100, VASYL MELNYK , wrote: >>> >>> cogent ??? ????????? >>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/04/russia-ukraine-internet-cogent-cutoff/ >>> >>>> ??, 4 ???. 2022 ?. ? 19:27, Maksym Tulyuk : >>>>> ??? ???????? ???????????? ??? ?????????: >>>>> 1) ?????? ?? ?????????????? ???????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????????? >>>>> 2) ??????????? ?????? ? ??????? ?? (???????? ??????, ???????, ??????, ?????????), ????? ??? ????????? ????????????? ???????/DWDM/fibre ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????????? >>>>> 3) ???????? ?????????? ??????? ? ????????? ????????, ??????? ????????????? ??? ??????????? ????? ???????? ?????? (????? ? ?????? ??? ????? ??????: Transit/Roaming/Colocation/ Cloud/DNS/Hosting/etc) >>>>> >>>>> ??????, ??? ???????? ??????? ????? ? ?????????? ?????????: >>>>> 1) Tier 1 ? IX ?????? blackhole ?? ??? ?????????? ???????? >>>>> 2) ?????? .ru/.?? ????????? ?? Root DNS servers >>>>> 3) ?????????? inetnum, inet6num, route, route6 objects ????????? ?? RIPE db >>>>> 4) ?????????? route ? route6 ??????????? invalid ? RIPE?????? RPKI >>>>> ?????????? ? ???? ? ????? ?????? ???, ?? ????? ?????? ? ?????????? ???????????? ???????, ???? ???-?? ????? ?????????? ? ???????? ? ???????? ??? ? ??" >>>>> >>>>> ???, ? ?? ????? ? ???: ??????????? ????? ??? 1) ????? 2) ????????? 3) ??????????. ????? ?? ??????????? ????????? ?????? ???????? ????? ? ?????, ? ?????????? ? ??????? ? ?????? ???????? ???? ? ?????????????? ? ??? ????????? ? ????????? ? ????????? ????? >>>>> >>>>> ???????? ?????: ???? ?????? ?????? ??????? ???????????? ????? - ?? ? ?????????? ??????, ? ?????-??????? ???????????. >>>>> >>>>> ???? ???-?? ??????, ??? ??? ?????????, ?? 23 ??????? 2022 ????????? ????? ? ??????????? ???? ???????? ???????????. >>>>> >>>>> ?????? >>>>> On 28 Feb 2022, 22:40 +0100, Alex Cherevko , wrote: >>>>>> ? ??? ???????????? ?? ???? ??? ??????? ????????? ???????? ????????? ???????? ??? ??? ?????????? ???????? ????????, ??????? ?? ????? ?????? ?????? ????. >>>>>> ???? - ??? ????? ?????? ????????? ?? ??????? ? ???????? ???. >>>>>> >>>>>> ????? ???????? ?????? ??????? ????????????? ? ?????? ? ?????? ??????, ??? ? ?????????? HTTPS 100% ?? ??????? ???????? ? ????? ?????. ????? ?? ?????? ??????? ???????, ???????????? ?????????? ?????????, ????? ?? ???????? ???????? ?? ????, ??? ???????? ?? ?????. >>>>>> >>>>>> ?????, ??? ???????, ?? ?????????? ???????????????? ?? ???? ??? ??? ?????. >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ? ???, ??? ???-?? ?? ??????????????? ???? ???-?? ?????? ?????????, ? ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ??? ??????????, ???? ????? ?? ??????? ??????? ????????. ????? ???????? ? ?????? ???????? ? ???? ?????? ???????? ?? ????????? ??????????. >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ?????????, >>>>>> ????????? >>>>>> >>>>>> From: VASYL MELNYK >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:27 AM >>>>>> To: Alex Cherevko >>>>>> Cc: uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>>>>> Subject: Re: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. >>>>>> >>>>>> ? ??? ????????????, ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? >>>>>> >>>>>> ???????? ???????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ???????? ??????????, ? ? ??????????? ????? ????????? ????????????. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 27 ????. 2022 ?., ? 05:32, Alex Cherevko ???????(?): >>>>>>> ??????, ?????? ????? ?? ????? list ? ?? ??????? ?????. ????? ?? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ? ??????????. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ???? ? ???, ????? ????????? ???????? ? ???????? ? ????? ???????????? DNS ???????, ??? ???????, ? ?????? (????????, ?????? ? ?.?.) + ???????? ? (intermidiate) SSL ???????????. >>>>>>> ? ?????? ? ????? ? ?????? ?? ?????. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ??????? ???: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ????????? ????? ??????????? (?? ??????? ??? ?? ? ????? ????????), ?? ??????? ?? ???????? ???????? ssl ???????????. ???? ???? - ????????? ? ???'????, ???????? ???????? ????????? ?? ??? ? ????? ??????????? ???? ??? ??????? SSL ?????? ???? ???????? ????????? ????? ?????????? ????????. >>>>>>> (? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ?? ? ????? ?????, ??? ????? ??????? ??????? ?? ????, ? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????). >>>>>>> ???? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ???????? ? ???????????? ?? ????????? ????? ????? ? ??????? ?????????? ??????? ?US (company name) take out Russian SSL certificates to destroy russian Internet). >>>>>>> ?????. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ????? ? ?????? ? ?? ??? ??? ????????? >>>>>>> ???? ??? ? ?????????? ? ??????????? ???????? >>>>>>> ??????? ???? ?????? ?? ??? ?????. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? ?????????, >>>>>>> ????????? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> uanog mailing list >>>>>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>>>>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> uanog mailing list >>>>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>>>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> uanog mailing list >>>>> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >>>>> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Taras Heichenko tasic at academ.kiev.ua From sm at netartgroup.com Tue Mar 8 18:39:05 2022 From: sm at netartgroup.com (Sergey Myasoedov) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 11:39:05 -0500 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: <20220308144920.GA90577@crete.itcons.net.ua> References: <00c801d82b8a$90f2c4a0$b2d84de0$@gmail.com> <01e701d82ceb$d5d8edd0$818ac970$@gmail.com> <002a3919-c7bc-42f1-8db8-bd9befd52276@Spark> <6dbdcced-af74-493a-b5c3-c39dcbb47dc9@Spark> <20220308144920.GA90577@crete.itcons.net.ua> Message-ID: > ??????? ????????? ??????? ?? ??????????. > members-discuss at ripe.net ????? ???????? ????????, ??????????? ????????? > ???????? ??????? ? ??? ?????. ???? ?? RIPE ???? ????? ???. LIR?? ????? > ??????. > ... > ??????????? ?????? ???. ????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? - ????????????? ?????: > UDP DDoS-?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????, ?????? ?????????? ISP ?? ??????????. > > ? ???? ???? ??? ????, ??? ? ???? ??????, ????? ?????-internet-??? ??????????? > ???????? ?????. ???, ? ???? ?????? ???? ?????? - ? ???????? -- S. From minotaur at crete.org.ua Tue Mar 8 19:01:05 2022 From: minotaur at crete.org.ua (Alexander Shikov) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 19:01:05 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: <2D8FD38D-CB33-4AF1-A432-BC916D1183A6@academ.kiev.ua> References: <00c801d82b8a$90f2c4a0$b2d84de0$@gmail.com> <01e701d82ceb$d5d8edd0$818ac970$@gmail.com> <002a3919-c7bc-42f1-8db8-bd9befd52276@Spark> <6dbdcced-af74-493a-b5c3-c39dcbb47dc9@Spark> <20220308144920.GA90577@crete.itcons.net.ua> <2D8FD38D-CB33-4AF1-A432-BC916D1183A6@academ.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <20220308170105.GA92244@crete.itcons.net.ua> On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 18:25:08 +0200, Taras Heichenko wrote: > > > > On 8 Mar 2022, at 16:49, Alexander Shikov wrote: > > > > ??????. > > > > [???? ?????? ??????????] > > > > > ??????????? ?????? ???. ????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? - ????????????? ?????: > > UDP DDoS-?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????, ?????? ?????????? ISP ?? ??????????. > > > > ? ???? ???? ??? ????, ??? ? ???? ??????, ????? ?????-internet-??? ??????????? > > ???????? ?????. > > ????????? ???? ??????, ? ??? ????? ????? ??????, ??? ??????? ?? ?????. ??? ?? ?????? ?????????????? > ????????? ??????????? ????????? ???? ? ??? ????, ??? ?? ????????? ??????????? ????????? ??????????? > ??? ??, ??????? ? ??? ?????????? ?????? ???. ???, ?? ?? ???? ??????? ?????, ??? ????? ???, ??? ????. ??????, ?? ??? ????????? ?????, ????? ?? ??????????, ???? ?? ???????????? ???? ??? ?????????. ??? ?????? ? ????? "???": ? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ?????: ? ?????? ??????? ????????? ??????????, ?? "?????????? ????? ?????? ?????????? ?? ??????? ?? ?????????? ????????? ????????? ... ? ????? ???????? ???????????? ???????, ? ???? ????????? ?????? ?????, ???????? ???? ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ? ???????, ?? ? ???????, ??? ? ? ????? ????." (?? 1 ???????), ? ? ????? ??????? ???? ????? ????????? ???????? (!!! ?????? ?? ???????) ??? ?????????? ??????? ? ?????????? AS https://nkrzi.gov.ua/index.php?r=site/index&pg=99&id=2252&language=uk ? ?? ???????? ??????? ?????????? ??????????. ? ???? ????? ??? ?? ????????????? ????? ????? ????????? ???????. ?? ??? ? ????: ? ???????? ?? ??'???????. ?? ????? ?????????? ?? - ???????. ???? ?????? ?????? ??, ?? RIPE NCC, Internet Society ?? ???? ?????? ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ?????? ???????? ?????. ? ?????? ??? "??????????? ?? ???? ???? ????????" ? ?????? ????????? ???????????? ????????. From minotaur at crete.org.ua Tue Mar 8 19:14:59 2022 From: minotaur at crete.org.ua (Alexander Shikov) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 19:14:59 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: References: <00c801d82b8a$90f2c4a0$b2d84de0$@gmail.com> <01e701d82ceb$d5d8edd0$818ac970$@gmail.com> <002a3919-c7bc-42f1-8db8-bd9befd52276@Spark> <6dbdcced-af74-493a-b5c3-c39dcbb47dc9@Spark> <20220308144920.GA90577@crete.itcons.net.ua> Message-ID: <20220308171459.GA92622@crete.itcons.net.ua> On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 11:39:05 -0500, Sergey Myasoedov wrote: > > > ??????? ????????? ??????? ?? ??????????. > > members-discuss at ripe.net ????? ???????? ????????, ??????????? ????????? > > ???????? ??????? ? ??? ?????. ???? ?? RIPE ???? ????? ???. LIR?? ????? > > ??????. > > ... > > ??????????? ?????? ???. ????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? - ????????????? ?????: > > UDP DDoS-?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????, ?????? ?????????? ISP ?? ??????????. > > > > ? ???? ???? ??? ????, ??? ? ???? ??????, ????? ?????-internet-??? ??????????? > > ???????? ?????. > > ???, ? ???? ?????? ???? ?????? - ? ???????? ?? ?????? ?????, ??????? ?? ????????? From sm at netartgroup.com Tue Mar 8 19:20:38 2022 From: sm at netartgroup.com (Sergey Myasoedov) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 12:20:38 -0500 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: <20220308171459.GA92622@crete.itcons.net.ua> References: <20220308171459.GA92622@crete.itcons.net.ua> Message-ID: <73C5ACEF-C411-45C6-B95B-49380D482F5B@netartgroup.com> ???????? ?/??? ??????????/??????????/??????-????-??-?????. ?? ? ??????????? ????? ??????? ??? RIPE NCC/ICANN/IETF/ITU/IXPs/etc S. > On 8. 3. 2022, at 12:15, Alexander Shikov wrote: > > ?On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 11:39:05 -0500, Sergey Myasoedov wrote: >> >>> ??????? ????????? ??????? ?? ??????????. >>> members-discuss at ripe.net ????? ???????? ????????, ??????????? ????????? >>> ???????? ??????? ? ??? ?????. ???? ?? RIPE ???? ????? ???. LIR?? ????? >>> ??????. >>> ... >>> ??????????? ?????? ???. ????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? - ????????????? ?????: >>> UDP DDoS-?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????, ?????? ?????????? ISP ?? ??????????. >>> >>> ? ???? ???? ??? ????, ??? ? ???? ??????, ????? ?????-internet-??? ??????????? >>> ???????? ?????. >> >> ???, ? ???? ?????? ???? ?????? - ? ???????? > ?? ?????? ?????, ??????? ?? ????????? From minotaur at crete.org.ua Tue Mar 8 19:36:23 2022 From: minotaur at crete.org.ua (Alexander Shikov) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 19:36:23 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: <73C5ACEF-C411-45C6-B95B-49380D482F5B@netartgroup.com> References: <20220308171459.GA92622@crete.itcons.net.ua> <73C5ACEF-C411-45C6-B95B-49380D482F5B@netartgroup.com> Message-ID: <20220308173623.GA92819@crete.itcons.net.ua> On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 12:20:38 -0500, Sergey Myasoedov wrote: > > ???????? ?/??? ??????????/??????????/??????-????-??-?????. ???? ????????? ????? ?? ?? ??????? ?????, ??? ???????. > ?? ? ??????????? ????? ??????? ??? RIPE NCC/ICANN/IETF/ITU/IXPs/etc ??? ?????? ???????????. ?? ??????????? ???????????? ?? ????????? ??? ????? ?????, ??? ?? ?????? ???????? ?????: ????? ???, ?????????? ?? ???? ????????, ???????????????? ????? ? ?????????????? internet. ????? ???????? ?????????: ?? ???? ???????????, ???????????? ????????, ?? ????????? ?????? ? ????????? ???????? ???????? ?????? ???????????? ? ????????? ???????. ? ? ??? ??? ?????????: ? ???? ?? ????, ??? ? ???? ??????. P.S. ??????, ? ????? ??????????? ???????, ??. ??? ??? ?????????? ?????????? "????? ??? ????????" ???? ???????, ?? ??? ?????????? ?? ????????????. ? ????? ????????, ??? ????? ?????????? ??????????? ?????????? ????????? ? ??? ??????? ??????, ??? ????? internet. From tasic at academ.kiev.ua Tue Mar 8 21:02:20 2022 From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 21:02:20 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: <20220308170105.GA92244@crete.itcons.net.ua> References: <00c801d82b8a$90f2c4a0$b2d84de0$@gmail.com> <01e701d82ceb$d5d8edd0$818ac970$@gmail.com> <002a3919-c7bc-42f1-8db8-bd9befd52276@Spark> <6dbdcced-af74-493a-b5c3-c39dcbb47dc9@Spark> <20220308144920.GA90577@crete.itcons.net.ua> <2D8FD38D-CB33-4AF1-A432-BC916D1183A6@academ.kiev.ua> <20220308170105.GA92244@crete.itcons.net.ua> Message-ID: <489E7C30-8CD9-423E-8DE5-55DC8572ECBC@academ.kiev.ua> Peace. > On 8 Mar 2022, at 19:01, Alexander Shikov wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 18:25:08 +0200, Taras Heichenko wrote: >> >> >>> On 8 Mar 2022, at 16:49, Alexander Shikov wrote: >>> >>> ??????. >>> >> >> [???? ?????? ??????????] >> >>> >>> ??????????? ?????? ???. ????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? - ????????????? ?????: >>> UDP DDoS-?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????, ?????? ?????????? 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(!!! ?????? ?? ???????) ??? ?????????? ??????? ? > ?????????? AS https://nkrzi.gov.ua/index.php?r=site/index&pg=99&id=2252&language=uk > > ? ?? ???????? ??????? ?????????? ??????????. ? ???? ????? ??? ?? ????????????? ????? ????? ????????? ???????. > > ?? ??? ? ????: ? ???????? ?? ??'???????. ?? ????? ?????????? ?? - ???????. ???? ?????? ?????? > ??, ?? RIPE NCC, Internet Society ?? ???? ?????? ????????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ?????? ???????? ?????. > ? ?????? ??? "??????????? ?? ???? ???? ????????" ? ?????? ????????? ???????????? ????????. ????? ???: ??????? ???? ?? ?????????. ?????????, ??? ?? ?????????. -- Taras Heichenko tasic at academ.kiev.ua From tasic at academ.kiev.ua Tue Mar 8 21:18:35 2022 From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 21:18:35 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: <73C5ACEF-C411-45C6-B95B-49380D482F5B@netartgroup.com> References: <20220308171459.GA92622@crete.itcons.net.ua> <73C5ACEF-C411-45C6-B95B-49380D482F5B@netartgroup.com> Message-ID: > On 8 Mar 2022, at 19:20, Sergey Myasoedov wrote: > > > ???????? ?/??? ??????????/??????????/??????-????-??-?????. > > ?? ? ??????????? ????? ??????? ??? RIPE NCC/ICANN/IETF/ITU/IXPs/etc ????? ???. ?????????? ????? ??????? ? RIPE NCC ? ICANN ? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ?????-?? ?????????? ????????. ??????. ????????. ?? ????? ????????? ???????. ??????????? ???? ?? ?????-?? ?????????? ???????? ? ????????? ?????? ?????????, ? ???????????, ?? ??????????????. ?????? Centr (Council of European National Top-Level Domain Registries) ????? ????????????? ???????? ?????? ? ????? ??????????? https://centr.org/news/news/suspension-ru.html ? ??????? ICANN ? RIPE NCC ????? ????? ???????????? ?????????? "???? ?????". ??????????? ??? RIPE NCC ?????????? ??????? ? ?????? 1000+ LIR'??, ????????????? ?????? 1000*1000 ???????? income (? ? ??????????? ? 1400*1000). ?? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????????. ??? ICANN ??? ?? ????????? ????????, ?? ???? "???? ????????". ??? ??? ???????, ???? ? ???, ???????? ? ??????????? ????? ?????? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ???????, ?? ???????? ?????????, ?????????? ???????, ??????? ???? ?? ?????-?? ????????????? ????? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ?????-???? ?????? ???????? ? ????????? ?????, ? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ??????. > > > S. > > >> On 8. 3. 2022, at 12:15, Alexander Shikov wrote: >> >> ?On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 11:39:05 -0500, Sergey Myasoedov wrote: >>> >>>> ??????? ????????? ??????? ?? ??????????. >>>> members-discuss at ripe.net ????? ???????? ????????, ??????????? ????????? >>>> ???????? ??????? ? ??? ?????. ???? ?? RIPE ???? ????? ???. LIR?? ????? >>>> ??????. >>>> ... >>>> ??????????? ?????? ???. ????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? - ????????????? ?????: >>>> UDP DDoS-?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????, ?????? ?????????? ISP ?? ??????????. >>>> >>>> ? ???? ???? ??? ????, ??? ? ???? ??????, ????? ?????-internet-??? ??????????? >>>> ???????? ?????. >>> >>> ???, ? ???? ?????? ???? ?????? - ? ???????? >> ?? ?????? ?????, ??????? ?? ????????? > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog -- Taras Heichenko tasic at academ.kiev.ua From sm at netartgroup.com Wed Mar 9 06:07:43 2022 From: sm at netartgroup.com (Sergey Myasoedov) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 23:07:43 -0500 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: References: <20220308171459.GA92622@crete.itcons.net.ua> <73C5ACEF-C411-45C6-B95B-49380D482F5B@netartgroup.com> Message-ID: > On 8 Mar 2022, at 14:18, Taras Heichenko wrote: > ??????????? ??? RIPE NCC > ?????????? ??????? ? ?????? 1000+ LIR'??, ????????????? ?????? 1000*1000 ???????? income (? ? ??????????? > ? 1400*1000). ?? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????????. ??? ICANN ??? ?? ????????? ????????, ?? ???? > "???? ????????". ??? ??? ???????, ???? ? ???, ???????? ? ??????????? ????? ?????? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ???????, > ?? ???????? ?????????, ?????????? ???????, ??????? ???? ?? ?????-?? ????????????? ????? ?????? ?????? > ?????????? ?????-???? ?????? ???????? ? ????????? ?????, ? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ??????. ???, ?????? ???. ?????? ???????? ???? NCC ????????? ?????????? ?????. ????? ???? ???? 30 ???, ????? ? ????? ????? ????? ???????? ??????????? ???????? "?? ???????????" - ??? ???? ??? ?? ?????. ? ????????? NCC, ? ??????????? ????????, ? ??????????? ICANN ??????? ?????????, ???? ????? ???????? ??? ???????, ? ??????? ????????? ?? ???????????. ?? ??????????? ??????????? ???????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ??????, ??? ??? ??? ????? ????? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ? ???????????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ?????????. ???, ????????????? ??????????? ??????????? - ????? ?????? ???????????. ???????, ???? ??? ????? ? ?????????????? ? ????? ?????????? NCC? ?????????, ??? ?????? ????? ? ??? ???????? ????????, ??? ? ?????? ?? ??? ?????????? ?? ??? ????????? ? ?????? ???? ??? ????? ?????????? ? ???? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?, ? ???? ????????? ??? ???? ??????? ??? ?????????????? ??????? ??? ???? ?? ???, ??? ????? ???????? ?????? ??????, ? ?? ??????????? ???????? ????? ??????????. ? ??? ?????? ?? ??????, ??? ???? ?????????????? ?? ????? ????? ? ???????. ?????? ????? ??, ??? ?????? ? ??? ????. -- S. From tasic at academ.kiev.ua Wed Mar 9 09:04:12 2022 From: tasic at academ.kiev.ua (Taras Heichenko) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 09:04:12 +0200 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: References: <20220308171459.GA92622@crete.itcons.net.ua> <73C5ACEF-C411-45C6-B95B-49380D482F5B@netartgroup.com> Message-ID: > On 9 Mar 2022, at 06:07, Sergey Myasoedov wrote: > > >> On 8 Mar 2022, at 14:18, Taras Heichenko wrote: >> ??????????? ??? RIPE NCC >> ?????????? ??????? ? ?????? 1000+ LIR'??, ????????????? ?????? 1000*1000 ???????? income (? ? ??????????? >> ? 1400*1000). ?? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????????. ??? ICANN ??? ?? ????????? ????????, ?? ???? >> "???? ????????". ??? ??? ???????, ???? ? ???, ???????? ? ??????????? ????? ?????? ??? ?????? ?? ????? ???????, >> ?? ???????? ?????????, ?????????? ???????, ??????? ???? ?? ?????-?? ????????????? ????? ?????? ?????? >> ?????????? ?????-???? ?????? ???????? ? ????????? ?????, ? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ??????. > > ???, ?????? ???. ?????? ???????? ???? NCC ????????? ?????????? ?????. > > ????? ???? ???? 30 ???, ????? ? ????? ????? ????? ???????? ??????????? ???????? "?? ???????????" - ??? ???? ??? ?? ?????. ? ????????? NCC, ? ??????????? ????????, ? ??????????? ICANN ??????? ?????????, ???? ????? ???????? ??? ???????, ? ??????? ????????? ?? ???????????. ?? ??????????? ??????????? ???????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ??????, ??? ??? ??? ????? ????? ???? ?????????? ?????????? ? ???????????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ?????????. ???, ????????????? ??????????? ??????????? - ????? ?????? ???????????. > > ???????, ???? ??? ????? ? ?????????????? ? ????? ?????????? 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AMS-IX - ??? ??????????, ??? 60 ????????? - ??? ??????????? ????????, ??????? ????????? ?????? ?????? ????? ??????? ? 198 ??????????? ? ??????????? ?????? ?????????? ??????. ??????? ??????? ????? ? IXP/Tier1 ????? ????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????????? ??????. ?????? On 8 Mar 2022, 18:20 +0100, Sergey Myasoedov , wrote: > > ???????? ?/??? ??????????/??????????/??????-????-??-?????. > > ?? ? ??????????? ????? ??????? ??? RIPE NCC/ICANN/IETF/ITU/IXPs/etc > > > S. > > > > On 8. 3. 2022, at 12:15, Alexander Shikov wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 11:39:05 -0500, Sergey Myasoedov wrote: > > > > > > > ??????? ????????? ??????? ?? ??????????. > > > > members-discuss at ripe.net ????? ???????? ????????, ??????????? ????????? > > > > ???????? ??????? ? ??? ?????. ???? ?? RIPE ???? ????? ???. LIR?? ????? > > > > ??????. > > > > ... > > > > ??????????? ?????? ???. ????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? - ????????????? ?????: > > > > UDP DDoS-?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????, ?????? ?????????? 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From minotaur at crete.org.ua Thu Mar 10 20:00:46 2022 From: minotaur at crete.org.ua (Alexander Shikov) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 20:00:46 +0200 Subject: [uanog] =?utf-8?b?0J/QuNGC0LDQvdC90Y8g0YHQsNC90LrRhtGW0Lkg0LIg?= =?utf-8?b?0ZbQvdGC0LXRgNC90LXRgtGWIC4uLg==?= Message-ID: <20220310180046.GA33640@crete.itcons.net.ua> ... ?????? ??????????? ? ??????????. PCH: https://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/Multistakeholder-Imposition-of-Internet-Sanctions.pdf ????? ???? ??????? ??????. From doka at funlab.cc Fri Mar 11 17:48:23 2022 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 16:48:23 +0100 Subject: [uanog] OSPF over GRE over IPSec Message-ID: ??????, ??????????, ???? ?????, ? ????????? ?????????????. ? GRE over IPSec ? ????????????? ?????? ??? ??????? (ubuntu 20.04) ?? cisco (virtual XE v17.07.01). ????? ?????? - ????? ?????? ??'???? ??????????????, IPSec policies are ok, ??? OSPF (FRR 8.1) ?? ????????????. tcpdump ?? ???? ??????? ??????? ????????? hello ? ??? ?????????, ??? Cisco ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????: # tcpdump -i gre1 -v [ ... ] 15:34:49.132222 IP (tos 0xc0, ttl 1, id 15017, offset 0, flags [none], proto OSPF (89), length 68) my_linux > ospf-all.mcast.net: OSPFv2, Hello, length 48 Router-ID x.x.x.x, Backbone Area, Authentication Type: none (0) Options [External] Hello Timer 10s, Dead Timer 40s, Mask 255.255.255.252, Priority 1 Neighbor List: 100.100.8.1 Cisco: Mar 11 15:31:33.522: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 Mar 11 15:31:42.586: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 Mar 11 15:31:51.641: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 ???? ???????, ?? ???????? ?? ???? ???????, ??? ? ?? ???? ?????????, ?? ? ????? ?? ???. ????? ??? ?????? ??????? ????? ???????????? ?? ???? ???? ????????? ???????????? linux (mtu ?????????, multicast ???????????): 6: gre1 at NONE: mtu 1400 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 link/gre x.x.x.x peer x.x.x.y inet 100.99.0.66/30 brd 100.99.0.67 scope global gre1 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever interface gre1 ip ospf cost 5 ip ospf mtu-ignore # sh ip ospf interface gre1 gre1 is up ifindex 6, MTU 1400 bytes, BW 0 Mbit Internet Address 100.99.0.66/30, Broadcast 100.99.0.67, Area 0.0.0.0 MTU mismatch detection: disabled Router ID x.x.x.x, Network Type POINTOPOINT, Cost: 5 Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State Point-To-Point, Priority 1 No backup designated router on this network Multicast group memberships: OSPFAllRouters Timer intervals configured, Hello 10s, Dead 40s, Wait 40s, Retransmit 5 Hello due in 8.701s Neighbor Count is 1, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 ???????????? cisco: interface Tunnel8 description HZF ip address 100.99.0.65 255.255.255.252 ip mtu 1400 ip ospf network point-to-point ip ospf cost 5 tunnel source GigabitEthernet1 tunnel destination x.x.x.x Tunnel8 is up, line protocol is up Internet Address 100.99.0.65/30, Interface ID 20, Area 0 Attached via Network Statement Process ID 1, Router ID 100.100.8.1, Network Type POINT_TO_POINT, Cost: 5 Topology-MTID Cost Disabled Shutdown Topology Name 0 5 no no Base Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State POINT_TO_POINT Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 oob-resync timeout 40 Hello due in 00:00:04 Supports Link-local Signaling (LLS) Cisco NSF helper support enabled IETF NSF helper support enabled Can not be protected by per-prefix Loop-Free FastReroute Can be used for per-prefix Loop-Free FastReroute repair paths Not Protected by per-prefix TI-LFA Index 1/8/8, flood queue length 0 Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0)/0x0(0) Last flood scan length is 1, maximum is 38 Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 1 msec Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) ?? ???? FRR ? ???? ???? ????: # sh ip ospf neigh Neighbor ID Pri State Dead Time Address Interface RXmtL RqstL DBsmL 100.100.8.1 1 Init/DROther 37.960s 100.99.0.65 gre1:100.99.0.66 0 0 0 ?? ???? Cisco - ??????, ?? ???? ?? ?????? Hello ??? ???????. ????? ?? ????-??? ??????. -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doka at funlab.cc Fri Mar 11 18:08:41 2022 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 17:08:41 +0100 Subject: [uanog] OSPF over GRE over IPSec In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01c73b28-6295-58f9-fb45-df1a13b8214c@funlab.cc> ?????? ?????????? ???????????? ? ????????, ??????? ??? ?????-??????, ??????????????? - ??? (??????) ?? ??????? OSPF hellos ? ??????. ???????? ???? ?? ???? linux. ???!?! :) On 11.03.2022 16:48, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > > ??????, > > ??????????, ???? ?????, ? ????????? ?????????????. > > ? GRE over IPSec ? ????????????? ?????? ??? ??????? (ubuntu 20.04) ?? > cisco (virtual XE v17.07.01). ????? ?????? - ????? ?????? ??'???? > ??????????????, > IPSec policies are ok, ??? OSPF (FRR 8.1) ?? ????????????. > > tcpdump ?? ???? ??????? ??????? ????????? hello ? ??? ?????????, ??? > Cisco ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????: > > # tcpdump -i gre1 -v > [ ... ] > 15:34:49.132222 IP (tos 0xc0, ttl 1, id 15017, offset 0, flags [none], proto OSPF (89), length 68) > my_linux > ospf-all.mcast.net: OSPFv2, Hello, length 48 > Router-ID x.x.x.x, Backbone Area, Authentication Type: none (0) > Options [External] > Hello Timer 10s, Dead Timer 40s, Mask 255.255.255.252, Priority 1 > Neighbor List: > 100.100.8.1 > > Cisco: > > Mar 11 15:31:33.522: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 > Mar 11 15:31:42.586: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 > Mar 11 15:31:51.641: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 > > ???? ???????, ?? ???????? ?? ???? ???????, ??? ? ?? ???? ?????????, ?? > ? ????? ?? ???. ????? ??? ?????? ??????? ????? ???????????? ?? ???? > ???? ????????? > > ???????????? linux (mtu ?????????, multicast ???????????): > > 6: gre1 at NONE: mtu 1400 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 > link/gre x.x.x.x peer x.x.x.y > inet 100.99.0.66/30 brd 100.99.0.67 scope global gre1 > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > > interface gre1 > ip ospf cost 5 > ip ospf mtu-ignore > > # sh ip ospf interface gre1 > gre1 is up > ifindex 6, MTU 1400 bytes, BW 0 Mbit > Internet Address 100.99.0.66/30, Broadcast 100.99.0.67, Area 0.0.0.0 > MTU mismatch detection: disabled > Router ID x.x.x.x, Network Type POINTOPOINT, Cost: 5 > Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State Point-To-Point, Priority 1 > No backup designated router on this network > Multicast group memberships: OSPFAllRouters > Timer intervals configured, Hello 10s, Dead 40s, Wait 40s, Retransmit 5 > Hello due in 8.701s > Neighbor Count is 1, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 > > ???????????? cisco: > > interface Tunnel8 > description HZF > ip address 100.99.0.65 255.255.255.252 > ip mtu 1400 > ip ospf network point-to-point > ip ospf cost 5 > tunnel source GigabitEthernet1 > tunnel destination x.x.x.x > > Tunnel8 is up, line protocol is up > Internet Address 100.99.0.65/30, Interface ID 20, Area 0 > Attached via Network Statement > Process ID 1, Router ID 100.100.8.1, Network Type POINT_TO_POINT, Cost: 5 > Topology-MTID Cost Disabled Shutdown Topology Name > 0 5 no no Base > Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State POINT_TO_POINT > Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 > oob-resync timeout 40 > Hello due in 00:00:04 > Supports Link-local Signaling (LLS) > Cisco NSF helper support enabled > IETF NSF helper support enabled > Can not be protected by per-prefix Loop-Free FastReroute > Can be used for per-prefix Loop-Free FastReroute repair paths > Not Protected by per-prefix TI-LFA > Index 1/8/8, flood queue length 0 > Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0)/0x0(0) > Last flood scan length is 1, maximum is 38 > Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 1 msec > Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 > Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) > > ?? ???? FRR ? ???? ???? ????: > > # sh ip ospf neigh > > Neighbor ID Pri State Dead Time Address Interface RXmtL RqstL DBsmL > 100.100.8.1 1 Init/DROther 37.960s 100.99.0.65 gre1:100.99.0.66 0 0 0 > > ?? ???? Cisco - ??????, ?? ???? ?? ?????? Hello ??? ???????. > > ????? ?? ????-??? ??????. > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doka at funlab.cc Fri Mar 11 18:25:54 2022 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 17:25:54 +0100 Subject: [uanog] OSPF over GRE over IPSec In-Reply-To: References: <01c73b28-6295-58f9-fb45-df1a13b8214c@funlab.cc> Message-ID: ? ??? ???????, ???, ?? ?????, ? ??? ?????? ? ??????? unicast OSPF - https://github.com/FRRouting/frr/issues/1471 :) On 11.03.2022 17:22, Volodymyr Melnyk wrote: > ????? ?????????????? OSPF ?? unicast, ???? multicast ?? ? ????'???????. > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Volodymyr Litovka" > To: "List, Uanog" > Sent: 11.03.2022 18:08:41 > Subject: Re: [uanog] OSPF over GRE over IPSec > >> ?????? ?????????? ???????????? ? ????????, ??????? ??? ?????-??????, >> ??????????????? - >> >> ??? (??????) ?? ??????? OSPF hellos ? ??????. >> >> ???????? ???? ?? ???? linux. ???!?! :) >> >> On 11.03.2022 16:48, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: >>> >>> ??????, >>> >>> ??????????, ???? ?????, ? ????????? ?????????????. >>> >>> ? GRE over IPSec ? ????????????? ?????? ??? ??????? (ubuntu 20.04) >>> ?? cisco (virtual XE v17.07.01). ????? ?????? - ????? ?????? ??'???? >>> ??????????????, >>> IPSec policies are ok, ??? OSPF (FRR 8.1) ?? ????????????. >>> >>> tcpdump ?? ???? ??????? ??????? ????????? hello ? ??? ?????????, ??? >>> Cisco ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????: >>> >>> # tcpdump -i gre1 -v >>> [ ... ] >>> 15:34:49.132222 IP (tos 0xc0, ttl 1, id 15017, offset 0, flags [none], proto OSPF (89), length 68) >>> my_linux > ospf-all.mcast.net: OSPFv2, Hello, length 48 >>> Router-ID x.x.x.x, Backbone Area, Authentication Type: none (0) >>> Options [External] >>> Hello Timer 10s, Dead Timer 40s, Mask 255.255.255.252, Priority 1 >>> Neighbor List: >>> 100.100.8.1 >>> >>> Cisco: >>> >>> Mar 11 15:31:33.522: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 >>> Mar 11 15:31:42.586: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 >>> Mar 11 15:31:51.641: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 >>> >>> ???? ???????, ?? ???????? ?? ???? ???????, ??? ? ?? ???? ?????????, >>> ?? ? ????? ?? ???. ????? ??? ?????? ??????? ????? ???????????? ?? >>> ???? ???? ????????? >>> >>> ???????????? linux (mtu ?????????, multicast ???????????): >>> >>> 6: gre1 at NONE: mtu 1400 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 >>> link/gre x.x.x.x peer x.x.x.y >>> inet 100.99.0.66/30 brd 100.99.0.67 scope global gre1 >>> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >>> >>> interface gre1 >>> ip ospf cost 5 >>> ip ospf mtu-ignore >>> >>> # sh ip ospf interface gre1 >>> gre1 is up >>> ifindex 6, MTU 1400 bytes, BW 0 Mbit >>> Internet Address 100.99.0.66/30, Broadcast 100.99.0.67, Area 0.0.0.0 >>> MTU mismatch detection: disabled >>> Router ID x.x.x.x, Network Type POINTOPOINT, Cost: 5 >>> Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State Point-To-Point, Priority 1 >>> No backup designated router on this network >>> Multicast group memberships: OSPFAllRouters >>> Timer intervals configured, Hello 10s, Dead 40s, Wait 40s, Retransmit 5 >>> Hello due in 8.701s >>> Neighbor Count is 1, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 >>> >>> ???????????? cisco: >>> >>> interface Tunnel8 >>> description HZF >>> ip address 100.99.0.65 255.255.255.252 >>> ip mtu 1400 >>> ip ospf network point-to-point >>> ip ospf cost 5 >>> tunnel source GigabitEthernet1 >>> tunnel destination x.x.x.x >>> >>> Tunnel8 is up, line protocol is up >>> Internet Address 100.99.0.65/30, Interface ID 20, Area 0 >>> Attached via Network Statement >>> Process ID 1, Router ID 100.100.8.1, Network Type POINT_TO_POINT, Cost: 5 >>> Topology-MTID Cost Disabled Shutdown Topology Name >>> 0 5 no no Base >>> Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State POINT_TO_POINT >>> Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 >>> oob-resync timeout 40 >>> Hello due in 00:00:04 >>> Supports Link-local Signaling (LLS) >>> Cisco NSF helper support enabled >>> IETF NSF helper support enabled >>> Can not be protected by per-prefix Loop-Free FastReroute >>> Can be used for per-prefix Loop-Free FastReroute repair paths >>> Not Protected by per-prefix TI-LFA >>> Index 1/8/8, flood queue length 0 >>> Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0)/0x0(0) >>> Last flood scan length is 1, maximum is 38 >>> Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 1 msec >>> Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 >>> Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) >>> >>> ?? ???? FRR ? ???? ???? ????: >>> >>> # sh ip ospf neigh >>> >>> Neighbor ID Pri State Dead Time Address Interface RXmtL RqstL DBsmL >>> 100.100.8.1 1 Init/DROther 37.960s 100.99.0.65 gre1:100.99.0.66 0 0 0 >>> >>> ?? ???? Cisco - ??????, ?? ???? ?? ?????? Hello ??? ???????. >>> >>> ????? ?? ????-??? ??????. >>> >>> -- >>> Volodymyr Litovka >>> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >> -- >> Volodymyr Litovka >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doka at funlab.cc Fri Mar 11 20:58:42 2022 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 19:58:42 +0100 Subject: [uanog] OSPF over GRE over IPSec In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <554972c5-37cc-7275-8529-90aef5a44271@funlab.cc> You probably have "ttl inherit" set on the tunnel (it is the default). Since the TTL on the OSPF multicast packets is 1, the tunnel packets will not arrive at the destination. Try: "ip link set gre1 type gre ttl 64" On 11.03.2022 16:48, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: > > ??????, > > ??????????, ???? ?????, ? ????????? ?????????????. > > ? GRE over IPSec ? ????????????? ?????? ??? ??????? (ubuntu 20.04) ?? > cisco (virtual XE v17.07.01). ????? ?????? - ????? ?????? ??'???? > ??????????????, > IPSec policies are ok, ??? OSPF (FRR 8.1) ?? ????????????. > > tcpdump ?? ???? ??????? ??????? ????????? hello ? ??? ?????????, ??? > Cisco ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????: > > # tcpdump -i gre1 -v > [ ... ] > 15:34:49.132222 IP (tos 0xc0, ttl 1, id 15017, offset 0, flags [none], proto OSPF (89), length 68) > my_linux > ospf-all.mcast.net: OSPFv2, Hello, length 48 > Router-ID x.x.x.x, Backbone Area, Authentication Type: none (0) > Options [External] > Hello Timer 10s, Dead Timer 40s, Mask 255.255.255.252, Priority 1 > Neighbor List: > 100.100.8.1 > > Cisco: > > Mar 11 15:31:33.522: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 > Mar 11 15:31:42.586: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 > Mar 11 15:31:51.641: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 > > ???? ???????, ?? ???????? ?? ???? ???????, ??? ? ?? ???? ?????????, ?? > ? ????? ?? ???. ????? ??? ?????? ??????? ????? ???????????? ?? ???? > ???? ????????? > > ???????????? linux (mtu ?????????, multicast ???????????): > > 6: gre1 at NONE: mtu 1400 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 > link/gre x.x.x.x peer x.x.x.y > inet 100.99.0.66/30 brd 100.99.0.67 scope global gre1 > valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever > > interface gre1 > ip ospf cost 5 > ip ospf mtu-ignore > > # sh ip ospf interface gre1 > gre1 is up > ifindex 6, MTU 1400 bytes, BW 0 Mbit > Internet Address 100.99.0.66/30, Broadcast 100.99.0.67, Area 0.0.0.0 > MTU mismatch detection: disabled > Router ID x.x.x.x, Network Type POINTOPOINT, Cost: 5 > Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State Point-To-Point, Priority 1 > No backup designated router on this network > Multicast group memberships: OSPFAllRouters > Timer intervals configured, Hello 10s, Dead 40s, Wait 40s, Retransmit 5 > Hello due in 8.701s > Neighbor Count is 1, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 > > ???????????? cisco: > > interface Tunnel8 > description HZF > ip address 100.99.0.65 255.255.255.252 > ip mtu 1400 > ip ospf network point-to-point > ip ospf cost 5 > tunnel source GigabitEthernet1 > tunnel destination x.x.x.x > > Tunnel8 is up, line protocol is up > Internet Address 100.99.0.65/30, Interface ID 20, Area 0 > Attached via Network Statement > Process ID 1, Router ID 100.100.8.1, Network Type POINT_TO_POINT, Cost: 5 > Topology-MTID Cost Disabled Shutdown Topology Name > 0 5 no no Base > Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State POINT_TO_POINT > Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 > oob-resync timeout 40 > Hello due in 00:00:04 > Supports Link-local Signaling (LLS) > Cisco NSF helper support enabled > IETF NSF helper support enabled > Can not be protected by per-prefix Loop-Free FastReroute > Can be used for per-prefix Loop-Free FastReroute repair paths > Not Protected by per-prefix TI-LFA > Index 1/8/8, flood queue length 0 > Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0)/0x0(0) > Last flood scan length is 1, maximum is 38 > Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 1 msec > Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 > Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) > > ?? ???? FRR ? ???? ???? ????: > > # sh ip ospf neigh > > Neighbor ID Pri State Dead Time Address Interface RXmtL RqstL DBsmL > 100.100.8.1 1 Init/DROther 37.960s 100.99.0.65 gre1:100.99.0.66 0 0 0 > > ?? ???? Cisco - ??????, ?? ???? ?? ?????? Hello ??? ???????. > > ????? ?? ????-??? ??????. > > -- > Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From v.melnyk at tucha.ua Fri Mar 11 18:22:22 2022 From: v.melnyk at tucha.ua (Volodymyr Melnyk) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 16:22:22 +0000 Subject: [uanog] OSPF over GRE over IPSec In-Reply-To: <01c73b28-6295-58f9-fb45-df1a13b8214c@funlab.cc> References: <01c73b28-6295-58f9-fb45-df1a13b8214c@funlab.cc> Message-ID: ????? ?????????????? OSPF ?? unicast, ???? multicast ?? ? ????'???????. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Volodymyr Litovka" To: "List, Uanog" Sent: 11.03.2022 18:08:41 Subject: Re: [uanog] OSPF over GRE over IPSec >?????? ?????????? ???????????? ? ????????, ??????? ??? ?????-??????, >??????????????? - > >??? (??????) ?? ??????? OSPF hellos ? ??????. > >???????? ???? ?? ???? linux. ???!?! :) > >On 11.03.2022 16:48, Volodymyr Litovka wrote: >>??????, >> >>??????????, ???? ?????, ? ????????? ?????????????. >> >>? GRE over IPSec ? ????????????? ?????? ??? ??????? (ubuntu 20.04) ?? >>cisco (virtual XE v17.07.01). ????? ?????? - ????? ?????? ??'???? >>??????????????, >>IPSec policies are ok, ??? OSPF (FRR 8.1) ?? ????????????. >> >>tcpdump ?? ???? ??????? ??????? ????????? hello ? ??? ?????????, ??? >>Cisco ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????: >> >># tcpdump -i gre1 -v >>[ ... ] >>15:34:49.132222 IP (tos 0xc0, ttl 1, id 15017, offset 0, flags [none], proto OSPF (89), length 68) >> my_linux > ospf-all.mcast.net: OSPFv2, Hello, length 48 >> Router-ID x.x.x.x, Backbone Area, Authentication Type: none (0) >> Options [External] >> Hello Timer 10s, Dead Timer 40s, Mask 255.255.255.252, Priority 1 >> Neighbor List: >> 100.100.8.1 >> >>Cisco: >> >>Mar 11 15:31:33.522: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 >>Mar 11 15:31:42.586: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 >>Mar 11 15:31:51.641: OSPF-1 HELLO Tu8: Send hello to 224.0.0.5 area 0 from 100.99.0.65 >> >>???? ???????, ?? ???????? ?? ???? ???????, ??? ? ?? ???? ?????????, ?? >>? ????? ?? ???. ????? ??? ?????? ??????? ????? ???????????? ?? ???? >>???? ????????? >> >>???????????? linux (mtu ?????????, multicast ???????????): >> >>6: gre1 at NONE: mtu 1400 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 >> link/gre x.x.x.x peer x.x.x.y >> inet 100.99.0.66/30 brd 100.99.0.67 scope global gre1 >> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever >> >>interface gre1 >> ip ospf cost 5 >> ip ospf mtu-ignore >> >># sh ip ospf interface gre1 >>gre1 is up >> ifindex 6, MTU 1400 bytes, BW 0 Mbit >> Internet Address 100.99.0.66/30, Broadcast 100.99.0.67, Area 0.0.0.0 >> MTU mismatch detection: disabled >> Router ID x.x.x.x, Network Type POINTOPOINT, Cost: 5 >> Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State Point-To-Point, Priority 1 >> No backup designated router on this network >> Multicast group memberships: OSPFAllRouters >> Timer intervals configured, Hello 10s, Dead 40s, Wait 40s, Retransmit 5 >> Hello due in 8.701s >> Neighbor Count is 1, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 >> >>???????????? cisco: >> >>interface Tunnel8 >> description HZF >> ip address 100.99.0.65 255.255.255.252 >> ip mtu 1400 >> ip ospf network point-to-point >> ip ospf cost 5 >> tunnel source GigabitEthernet1 >> tunnel destination x.x.x.x >> >>Tunnel8 is up, line protocol is up >> Internet Address 100.99.0.65/30, Interface ID 20, Area 0 >> Attached via Network Statement >> Process ID 1, Router ID 100.100.8.1, Network Type POINT_TO_POINT, Cost: 5 >> Topology-MTID Cost Disabled Shutdown Topology Name >> 0 5 no no Base >> Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State POINT_TO_POINT >> Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5 >> oob-resync timeout 40 >> Hello due in 00:00:04 >> Supports Link-local Signaling (LLS) >> Cisco NSF helper support enabled >> IETF NSF helper support enabled >> Can not be protected by per-prefix Loop-Free FastReroute >> Can be used for per-prefix Loop-Free FastReroute repair paths >> Not Protected by per-prefix TI-LFA >> Index 1/8/8, flood queue length 0 >> Next 0x0(0)/0x0(0)/0x0(0) >> Last flood scan length is 1, maximum is 38 >> Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 1 msec >> Neighbor Count is 0, Adjacent neighbor count is 0 >> Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) >> >> >>?? ???? FRR ? ???? ???? ????: >> >># sh ip ospf neigh >> >>Neighbor ID Pri State Dead Time Address Interface RXmtL RqstL DBsmL >>100.100.8.1 1 Init/DROther 37.960s 100.99.0.65 gre1:100.99.0.66 0 0 0 >> >>?? ???? Cisco - ??????, ?? ???? ?? ?????? Hello ??? ???????. >> >>????? ?? ????-??? ??????. >> >>-- >>Volodymyr Litovka >> "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison >-- >Volodymyr Litovka > "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pidgornyi wrote: > > ????? ??? ?????? ???????-2022 ??????????? ?????????? ???????-??????? ??????. LIR ???????? ???? LIR-?? ???????? 90 ???? ????????. ??? ????? ?? /24 ????????? ????????... ??? RIPE NCC ???? ????? ???????????, ?? ?????????? LIR ?????? ???? ?? ?? ??????????? ???????? ?????? ????????. ? ???? ? ????? ???????? ? NCC, ???? ??????????. ?? ???? - ????? ??? ???????? ? ???????????????????? ???????? RIPE ??? ????????? ????? ??????? ??????????. ?? ? ???????? ??????? ????? UANOG? ???? ?? ??? ??? ?????????? ??????, ? ??? ????????? ??? ???????????, ?? ??? ????, ????????, ??? (??? ????? ? Signal, ???? ????? ? ? ????????.) ? dk@ > > 03.03.2022 22:37, Mike Petrusha ?????: >> >> ????? ?????? ???? ???, ??? ???? ???????. >> >> >> -- >> Mike >> >> >> >> >> ???? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? - ?? 1000 ???? ????? + 1400 ???? ? >> ??? = >> ????? LIR ? /24 =) >> >> ?? ???? ????? ??????, ???? ????. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> uanog mailing list >> uanog at uanog.kiev.ua >> https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog > > _______________________________________________ > uanog mailing list > uanog at uanog.kiev.ua > https://mailman.uanog.kiev.ua/mailman/listinfo/uanog From doka at funlab.cc Tue Mar 15 10:27:33 2022 From: doka at funlab.cc (Volodymyr Litovka) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 09:27:33 +0100 Subject: [uanog] multios log analysis tool Message-ID: ??????, ???? ??????? - ???? ????? ???????? log analysis tool (syslog) ? ??????? ??????? ????????? ??????? ???????? ??? ??????? ????? cisco, mikrotik ?? ?, ??????, ??????. Realtime - ????????? ????????? ??????? - ???????? ????? -- Volodymyr Litovka "Vision without Execution is Hallucination." -- Thomas Edison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From maksym at tulyuk.com Thu Mar 17 22:00:33 2022 From: maksym at tulyuk.com (Maksym Tulyuk) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 21:00:33 +0100 Subject: [uanog] Idea to block russia at DNS / SSL level or at IP level. In-Reply-To: <20220308144920.GA90577@crete.itcons.net.ua> References: <00c801d82b8a$90f2c4a0$b2d84de0$@gmail.com> <01e701d82ceb$d5d8edd0$818ac970$@gmail.com> <002a3919-c7bc-42f1-8db8-bd9befd52276@Spark> <6dbdcced-af74-493a-b5c3-c39dcbb47dc9@Spark> <20220308144920.GA90577@crete.itcons.net.ua> Message-ID: ???????? ? ?????? ? ?????????? ?????? On 8 Mar 2022, 15:49 +0100, Alexander Shikov , wrote: > ??????. > > ????? ?????? ? ????? ?????????? ?? ?? Internet ?????? ?? ?????. > ??? ????????? ???? ???????? ? ??????? CEO Internet Society > https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/03/why-the-world-must-resist-calls-to-undermine-the-internet/ > > ??????? ????????? ??????? ?? ??????????. > members-discuss at ripe.net ????? ???????? ????????, ??????????? ????????? > ???????? ??????? ? ??? ?????. ???? ?? RIPE ???? ????? ???. LIR?? ????? > ??????. > > ???? ???? ??? ???????? ? ?????? ? ?????? ???????? - ?? ??????. > "???????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ????????? ?????? ??????????". > ???????????? ??????? ????. > > ?? Cogent: ?????? ? WP - 4 ?????, ??????? ???????. ?????? ?? ??????????, ?????????? > ??-???????? ????? ?? LG Cogent ? LP 130 (All customer routes announced to Cogent will have a local pref of 130): > > Tue Mar 8 14:39:33.368 UTC > BGP routing table entry for 87.226.128.0/17 > Versions: > Process bRIB/RIB SendTblVer > Speaker 1265684446 1265684446 > Last Modified: Feb 27 01:57:56.088 for 1w2d > Paths: (1 available, best #1) > Advertised IPv4 Unicast paths to peers (in unique update groups): > 38.5.0.99 > Path #1: Received by speaker 0 > Advertised IPv4 Unicast paths to peers (in unique update groups): > 38.5.0.99 > 12389 > 38.28.1.238 (metric 103030) from 38.28.1.83 (38.28.1.238) > Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 130, valid, internal, best, group-best, import-candidate > Received Path ID 0, Local Path ID 1, version 1265684446 > Community: 174:11401 174:20999 174:21101 174:22005 > Originator: 38.28.1.238, Cluster list: 38.28.1.83, 38.28.1.67 > > > ??????????? ?????? ???. ????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? - ????????????? ?????: > UDP DDoS-?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????, ?????? ?????????? ISP ?? ??????????. > > ? ???? ???? ??? ????, ??? ? ???? ??????, ????? ?????-internet-??? ??????????? > ???????? ?????. > > On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 15:53:20 +0100, Maksym Tulyuk wrote: > > ?? ??????????????? ?? ??????????? ? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ? ???????? ???? ?? ?????? ? ?????? ??????? ??, ??? ?????? Cogent - ????????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????????? ????????: > > > > Tier 1: > > AS1239 - T-Mobile US (Sprint) > > AS1273 - Vodafone Group PLC > > AS1299 - Arelion (Telia) > > AS3356 - Lumen (Level 3) > > AS3491 - PCCW Global, Inc. > > AS6453 - TATA COMMUNICATIONS > > AS6461 - Zayo Bandwidth > > AS6762 - TELECOM ITALIA SPARKLE S.p.A. > > AS6939 - Hurricane Electric LLC > > > > ?????????? IX: > > AMS-IX > > BBIX > > DE-CIX > > Equinix > > France-IX > > HKIX > > LINX > > Netnod > > PLIX > > > > ?????? > > On 4 Mar 2022, 20:10 +0100, VASYL MELNYK , wrote: > > > > > > cogent ??? ????????? > > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/04/russia-ukraine-internet-cogent-cutoff/ > > > > > > > ??, 4 ???. 2022 ?. ? 19:27, Maksym Tulyuk : > > > > > ??? ???????? ???????????? ??? ?????????: > > > > > 1) ?????? ?? ?????????????? ???????? ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????????? > > > > > 2) ??????????? ?????? ? ??????? ?? (???????? ??????, ???????, ??????, ?????????), ????? ??? ????????? ????????????? ???????/DWDM/fibre ?? ????? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????????? > > > > > 3) ???????? ?????????? ??????? ? ????????? ????????, ??????? ????????????? ??? ??????????? ????? ???????? ?????? 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